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There is a cascade of this counterculture deviancy, and it starts at a young age, forming a predictable pattern.

While they're out shopping, junior gets a little ripe in his training pants because momma or da-da is a little too tired or busy talking on the cell phone.  So they stay on when they should be changed.

Once the young victim is habituated to shuffling through the mall in wet or soiled underwear, it's easy to become indifferent to that loose shoelace, or even the idea that they should be tied appropriately at all.

Soon he or she discovers that this is a good way to attract attention from society, reveling in any frown or shaking of the head that they can provoke.

Shirtails hanging out are another typical manifestation of this delinquent attitude.

From there, the hat reversal is a natural progression of "attitude".  Leaving the price tag on is another way to attract attention.

Next it's the jacket hanging off the shoulders, depending only on the forearm for support.

By this time serious problems have arisen in the young perp's attitude to Other People's Property.  In their disfunctional reasoning, if they can get away with it, they think it's OK.

Am I right, Gecko & SpecialForces?

Folks, we've got to hold the line on this.
Because next, if they're not broken, they go on to those baggy pants that are many sizes too big and have to be constantly held with one hand or suspenders or some secret homey trick that keeps them halfway down their a**.
Who knows how many millions in unpaid merchandise has gone out the doors this way.


Then they progress to things like multiple piercing of body parts that shouldn't be exposed in the first place, tatoos both visible and in unspeakable places.  By that time they are lost and can serve no functional purpose in respectable society, except perhaps to say "you want fries with that?"

Hence the need for the security elite who are more on top of things than the police.  We require their 24/7 "condition red" alertness and response capability, to keep these felons of the future in line while they're still in their formative years.

It may take a village to raise a child (into a mind-numbed liberal drone), but it takes a Mall Ninja to (cattle) prod that child into a compliant and productive subject.

[red][size=4]PRK

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jeesus h. keeryst, do you have a whopper of an imagination mr. specialforces!!  exactly what kind of training did you go through? im just simply amazed, humbled, and entertained by your b.s. admit it pal, youre mall security. you got a small weiner and a big imagination (not to mention a bigger mouth). you come to Vermont and try that crap youre talking about. we all carry guns here. try to touch someone, or in your own words, "hammer" someone for breaking SHOPPING mall rules and i'd hate to see the results. you pathetic little putz........get a life you jerkoff.

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You can still cower behind me when things start going down, redray. I'm going to do my job to the best of my abilities no matter what a couple of pansies might think.

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Hey redray, why don't you go make fun of crippled kids, instead of tactical professionals like ourselves. Yo uobvioulsly don't have a clue as to what it's like to work Mall Security with all of these fashion deviants, who just pave the way for more and more rule breaking. How does these kids get started? People lets them do whatever they want, well we have rules, and I'll enforce them on you, carry or no carry. You'll see that you can't flaunt your clothing rebellion like a 1960's drugged out hippie-dip in my mall, follow the rules, or "hammer" will take on a literal meaning for the action I'll take.

Gecko45

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God I hate defenseless sheeple...

Sometimes when I'm at work, I just want to take my HK53a3 w/ Beta mag, and mow down the whole f--king crowd of workers I supposed to protect.

Especially at some of my hi-security gigs, I could cover it up, and no one would ever know.

Yeah sure, some lonely wives and snot-nosed children would start complaining, but the company would hush it all up, since the projects they are working on "don't exist."

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That reminds me, we have some fun 'activities' for folks that don't follow the rules on company ground.

For the ultra-high sec. gigs, folks that don't belong there, end up missing,... forever.

If they are company people, we have some fun with them.

One time at one of the labs, the top bio. guy got into the habit of bringing his girlfriend into the complex.  He had a fetish that involve him, his GF, and a 1000ml graduated cylinder. Did I mention that all this took place in the 30 deg. incubator?

Luckily we have cameras in there too, so after enjoying the show, me and my team donned full battle gear and decided to join the party.

We blew off the incubator door with a light charge of c4, the guy is pissing himself, (and everything around him!) the naked GF jumps up and starts screaming, until one of my guys tackles her and flexcuffs her.

So we hogtie the two and wisk them way out into the perimeter of the facility on the hummer and have them kneel down, the guy starts crying "I work here, you can't do this to me, I'm head of the bio. dept!!!  It's all her fault, she made me do it..."

So we put two slugs into the ground near there knees and left them there, for the morning crew to 'rescue'.

Funniest damn thing I've ever seen!  Showed the tape to one of the suits, and next day, the 'head of the dept' was bumped down to cleaning beakers full time!

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Your JOB is to OBSERVE what is happening and call the police when something real happens.

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And you can play tough guy all you want and act like a badass online, but I PROMISE you, if any of you try to throw me out of a MALL or tell me how to live my life or wear my hat, or detain me, or do ANYTHING to me when I haven't broken the law, I WILL sue. You have no powers and are not badasses, whether you think so or not.

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I don't give a rat's ass how much "training" (HA! What "training" do you go through) you mall ninjas have, you are NOT cops, NOT in the Special Forces, and NOT responsible to go chase down armed robbers. Around here you cannot even LEGALLY DETAIN SOMEONE!! Your JOB is to OBSERVE what is happening and call the police when something real happens.

You have a job and work for a living, and I do respect that. But if you think that you are saving the world because someone wears a hat backwards and you decide to have a boot party on their face, YOU ARE WRONG!

And you can play tough guy all you want and act like a badass online, but I PROMISE you, if any of you try to throw me out of a MALL or tell me how to live my life or wear my hat, or detain me, or do ANYTHING to me when I haven't broken the law, I WILL sue. You have no powers and are not badasses, whether you think so or not.

Simple fact is when you are not a cop, not special forces, and basically aren't crap but act like you are, you are a WANNABE.

BTW, SpecialForces, is that a wannabe handle or were you SF at one time. And now you harrass kids with hats on in malls for a living???? WTF is with that??

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"You boys better watch out.  I'll climb the wall behind you, and stick you with my rubber MallNinja knife!"

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"You boys better watch out.  I'll climb the wall behind you, and stick you with my rubber MallNinja knife!"

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By the way, I am a former executive protection specialist for one of the top financial institutions in the world, and I was never authorized to treat people the way you claim to.  I've been shot at, and shot back, but when dealing with criminals who have committed more grievous sins than wearing their hats backward, I've never laid an unnecessary hand on them.  CCTV works both ways.  It can save your hide, but if you behave the way your espousing, it'll land you in jail for battery or false arrest.


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You were not authorized to treat people the way we do because you lack the skills and training to work in a hostile environment such as ours. Believe me, we don't want to have to walk aroung cracking peoples craniums. But, that is what is required to keep the honest citizens happy and the riff-raff out of our malls. You say you've been shot at so you should understand what we go through.

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I was at Target today, actually it was a SUPER Target, so I guess that qualifies as super-top double-dog secret clearance.

Anyhoo, I spot this guy in plain-clothes, and his shirt tail flapped up as he walked, and bingo, I spot a radio!  It's Super Target security!  

He spots me, I try to get closer to ID the buldge under his right arm (I suspected an MP5K) anyway, next thing I know, I wake up outside in the parking lot, bruised, dizzy, and with a sore b**tthole.

I figure the guy saw me, and moved with ninja speed (so fast it didn't register in my mind), sprayed me with ninja gas, beat me up and left me by my car.

I don't know what happened to my a$$hole, I must have landed on a bottle of shampoo when he ninja gased me...

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I was at Target today, actually it was a SUPER Target, so I guess that qualifies as super-top double-dog secret clearance.

Anyhoo, I spot this guy in plain-clothes, and his shirt tail flapped up as he walked, and bingo, I spot a radio!  It's Super Target security!  

He spots me, I try to get closer to ID the buldge under his right arm (I suspected an MP5K) anyway, next thing I know, I wake up outside in the parking lot, bruised, dizzy, and with a sore b**tthole.

I figure the guy saw me, and moved with ninja speed (so fast it didn't register in my mind), sprayed me with ninja gas, beat me up and left me by my car.

I don't know what happened to my a$$hole, I must have landed on a bottle of shampoo when he ninja gased me...

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You were not authorized to treat people the way we do because you lack the skills and training to work in a hostile environment such as ours. Believe me, we don't want to have to walk aroung cracking peoples craniums. But, that is what is required to keep the honest citizens happy and the riff-raff out of our malls. You say you've been shot at so you should understand what we go through.

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You really thing you're hot shit don't you. Man, what loosers, to have nothing better to do than live out imaginary super hero lives.

So WTF, SF, you never answered my question. Are you just using a wannabe handle or what?

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Im not sure about other states but in Oklahoma if you refuse to leave private property, be it a business or a residence, after being told to by the owner, proprieter, or any agent or employee authorized by the owner or proprieter you can and usually will be arrested for criminal trespass. Malls are private property and thier owners may impose any B/S rules they wish. Until it drives away enough business that they feel it in thier bank acct that wont change. If the mall you shop at gives you that kind of trouble I say go to a different mall rather than chance getting arrested for trespassing. just my .02 worth

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Im not sure about other states but in Oklahoma if you refuse to leave private property, be it a business or a residence, after being told to by the owner, proprieter, or any agent or employee authorized by the owner or proprieter you can and usually will be arrested for criminal trespass. Malls are private property and thier owners may impose any B/S rules they wish. Until it drives away enough business that they feel it in thier bank acct that wont change. If the mall you shop at gives you that kind of trouble I say go to a different mall rather than chance getting arrested for trespassing. just my .02 worth

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Do you guys know how stupid you sound? Talkin like you are some kind of special ops team or something. I beat one of you "highly Trained" professionals down about a year ago> The fu*&er thought he could tell me how to dress in "HIS" mall and I beat his ass in the parking lot. I have to laugh at your rediculous rsponses. If you want to play police officer, become one. Otherwise shut the hell up> No one is afraid of a "mall Ninja". You guys make yourself sound even more stupid every time your relay one of your made up stories. Busting in swat style to bust up a manager an the bitch hes fucking, get for real. Your ass would be in jail for waht you "supposedly" did. Firing at handcuffed prisioners?? get real and get a real job. You try pullin that shit on me and Ill put a .40 in your dome.