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Posted: 10/10/2019 7:38:02 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Wooden brake rotor half painted white there on the table? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/9 A couple students looked up CAD files to 3D print more details for our landscapes. https://i.imgur.com/hHmPn7i.jpg A little paint......students also added a few more later in the day. https://i.imgur.com/tJtyvs9.jpg This is also getting closer to finished. https://i.imgur.com/IwIouLt.jpg These guys are enjoying their current work. 
You might recognize the details. They have work to do, but set up the layout successfully today. https://i.imgur.com/puVm6Gc.jpg 
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Posted: 10/10/2019 7:44:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#2]
Update 10/10
It's that time again.......RIVET TIME!!!!!!  Some veterans of past rivet endevours, as well as a few newbies are about half way through Marvin's ship. 
Marvins ship also needs a little put, put, put out of its rocket nozzle. 
It will eventually be painted blue to match our SpaceX rocket. 
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Posted: 10/10/2019 7:49:36 AM EDT
[#3]
Update 10/10 continued
The grain silos have a little more weathered look, as well as are now more level on their pad. They will eventually have a custom barley brand name on them. Thst is being designed right now. 
The irrigation pivot has also been started. 
Lessons from Marine One's windows were a little rusty, but they are getting closer on the cockpit for Starship. 
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Posted: 10/10/2019 1:06:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/10 It's that time again.......RIVET TIME!!!!!! Some veterans of past rivet endevours, as well as a few newbies are about half way through Marvin's ship. https://i.imgur.com/IRwkOAz.jpg Marvins ship also needs a little put, put, put out of its rocket nozzle. https://i.imgur.com/GYJ2GNE.jpg It will eventually be painted blue to match our SpaceX rocket. https://i.imgur.com/ojLyqTx.jpg Something like this, no microcontroller needed: 
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Posted: 10/10/2019 1:43:25 PM EDT
[#5]
What about using used 5 gallon water jugs, like the water cooler types? These should work well for the greenhouse type project.
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Posted: 10/10/2019 5:31:07 PM EDT
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You might want to show this picture as comedy relief
13 parts of mid-1960's Sci-Fi Part 1:  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 6:28:01 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zukguy:
What about using used 5 gallon water jugs, like the water cooler types? These should work well for the greenhouse type project.
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Posted: 10/10/2019 6:37:18 PM EDT
[#8]
Has anyone with a Twitter account tweeted some of the pics of this to Elon Musk?
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: 2 Amber and 1 Red LED frosted (or just amber, or just red - all sanded until white and without focus), then buried in the cotton could flash at maybe once (1/10 sec on time) per 3 seconds for an awesome put put put look, and last forever on batteries (small solar panel, even, really small), only blink when panel has enough power to run them, which is easy, since if there's not enough power, they won't turn on. Something like this, no microcontroller needed: https://i.imgur.com/Tx6yThd.jpg |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:23:28 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zukguy:
What about using used 5 gallon water jugs, like the water cooler types? These should work well for the greenhouse type project. 
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:24:50 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoosierhick:
Has anyone with a Twitter account tweeted some of the pics of this to Elon Musk?
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:29:08 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Not that I know of, but I was hoping we'd wait till we got a little more along on our Starship build.
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:37:37 PM EDT
[#13]
Update 10/10.2
Some Tatooine pieces starting to get organized on site. 
"The Bench" is getting it's vegitation. We are waiting on our drilling rig, and second pump. Students were playing around trying to make Yuka plants today.  Marvins ship now has tail fins, and a nosecone. A bit more bondo and sanding and we will be ready for paint. 
Few more rivets also needed. 
Notice the small balls on he finds tips.  Revised ladders on the silos, and irrigation pipe along the edge of the field. Many of these students spend time moving pipe like this and building pivot systems, so this is near to their hearts and they want it to look right. I heard them arguing over/about the collars on the pipe.
Adding some lights to the Starship cockpit before sealing it in with the plexiglass. No, it won't be purple, but they were playing with the colors while they worked. 
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:40:17 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kpel308:
Then he'll change the design again, just being high and trying to screw with your kids' minds. We laugh when we are working with the shape of the fins, and placement. We are getting ready to CNC the fins for the Super Heavy and we have to keep updating the CAD team with the latest pictures. |
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Posted: 10/11/2019 4:55:03 PM EDT
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Update 10/11
@FB41 surprised us with a nice care package today. 
Packed full of good stuff.....and lots of confetti. There is still quite a bit on the floor, and we even brought over a trashcan.
Our Taxidermy Princess was extremely excited to see the "cheese graters" for shaping forms more easily.  There was an awesome amount and variety of goodies in there. Thank you again FB41! Kids again said they just were shocked that someone from the other side of the country would send us all these tools. 
 I found some shoes at the 2nd hand store for Marvin last night, and some gloves we can turn into his hands. 
Marvin's shoes getting the proper color. 
Marvin's rocket got a little bit of paint, but we have to go back and smooth out the attachment of the fins with some caulking. It just stands out too much. 
The pivot irrigation system is getting further along in assembly. We are still messing with different materials for the different pieces, and how they will attach. Hot glue is not always the best method, even if it is the quickest. 
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Posted: 10/11/2019 5:00:26 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762: Revised ladders on the silos, and irrigation pipe along the edge of the field. Many of these students spend time moving pipe like this and building pivot systems, so this is near to their hearts and they want it to look right. I heard them arguing over/about the collars on the pipe.
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Posted: 10/11/2019 5:04:23 PM EDT
[#17]
Have you ever tried any of the Bondic or similar type products? It's fairly popular amongst hobby builders.
It goes on fluid, about like thin super glue, but stays wet until you hit it with UV light. About 15 seconds under UV and it fully sets up and is quite strong. Since it doesn't set up on its own, it's easy to clean up if you misapply and/or need to adjust positioning of your pieces. |
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Posted: 10/11/2019 5:11:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ashraam:
Have you ever tried any of the Bondic or similar type products? It's fairly popular amongst hobby builders. It goes on fluid, about like thin super glue, but stays wet until you hit it with UV light. About 15 seconds under UV and it fully sets up and is quite strong. Since it doesn't set up on its own, it's easy to clean up if you misapply and/or need to adjust positioning of your pieces. |
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Posted: 10/11/2019 5:25:50 PM EDT
[#19]
Guns, it's been a bit and I may have missed an update but is there any news on the student who was injured early in the year?
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Posted: 10/11/2019 6:56:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope:
If you really want to wind them up, ask them if it's a Valley or Zimmatic pivot? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope:
Originally Posted By guns762: Revised ladders on the silos, and irrigation pipe along the edge of the field. Many of these students spend time moving pipe like this and building pivot systems, so this is near to their hearts and they want it to look right. I heard them arguing over/about the collars on the pipe.
The young man currently making the model works after school putting the real things together. He was the student who rounded up the 12" pipe for us to use for the rocket fuselage too. 
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Posted: 10/11/2019 7:04:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmnoid77:
Guns, it's been a bit and I may have missed an update but is there any news on the student who was injured early in the year? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmnoid77:
Guns, it's been a bit and I may have missed an update but is there any news on the student who was injured early in the year? He is currently in Denver. They are working with him there. The best way I can pass along his progress is to post his Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1079961392201388/ Here is an update from that page by his mom. We often speak of God teaching us lessons on patience and endurance. We encourage each other as believers to trust in Gods timing and plan. We try to support our brothers and sisters in the hard times of life and unexpected tragedies that rock our foundation.
During this time of Ethans accident, many people have been sick, hurt, undergone surgeries, traumatic accidents, and even death. Families are hurting, people are healing, life is still moving on. After losing my dad in February, a long time friend said to me, "The hardest part with tragedy is everyone else's life moves on." Lisa was so right. My heart breaks for everyone going through rough days. For the recent accidents that have taken lives and left trauma with little answers, for the small babies that have to undergo surgeries so early on life, for the athletes whose game took a turn for the worst. You all are on our hearts and in our prayers. Keep holding on, seek after Gods face for moments of peace that passes all understanding, God is not done yet! Ethan is doing well. It is getting harder for sure. He is having a hard time with memory. He says he is 14 , sometimes 16. He is excited for his freshman year. But there are still moments where he is right here, in Denver, Oct 2019, 18 years old. We still stand in the promise. We know what God has done and we know Ethan will be whole. And we continue to wait, praying for patience and endurance. We can never say thank you enough for the love and outpour. We dont know the final chapter of this story, but we are thankful you, every single one of you, is here with us. Much love to the newest members of the family, flight team, ambulance team, Newcastle Football, Mountain View volleyball, Rocky Mountain Dental, to name a few. Welcome to our journey! Continued prayers for the miracles to come, God will let the ears hear and the eyes see. |
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Posted: 10/11/2019 7:07:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ashraam:
Have you ever tried any of the Bondic or similar type products? It's fairly popular amongst hobby builders. It goes on fluid, about like thin super glue, but stays wet until you hit it with UV light. About 15 seconds under UV and it fully sets up and is quite strong. Since it doesn't set up on its own, it's easy to clean up if you misapply and/or need to adjust positioning of your pieces. |
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Posted: 10/11/2019 8:48:52 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Yes, I've seen that. It is really cool. I may have to see if I can find some locally. BTW- Now you know why I told ya to have a freshman open the box. .
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Posted: 10/11/2019 8:53:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FB41:
I buy it from Amazon. It's pretty tough stuff. BTW- Now you know why I told ya to have a freshman open the box. .Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FB41:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Yes, I've seen that. It is really cool. I may have to see if I can find some locally. BTW- Now you know why I told ya to have a freshman open the box. .
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Posted: 10/11/2019 10:22:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#25]
We decided that the Earth clock needed white hands to for better contrast. The really good news is we got it working after being told we broke it and it needed replaced. I worked with it most of the day yesterday and finally got it to set it's time.
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Posted: 10/11/2019 10:58:18 PM EDT
[#26]
Fund raising idea -- Make an electronic copy of the clock background painting, replicate and sell.
May require disassembly of the clock -- Again (doh!) https://www.amazon.com/Inch-Custom-Photo-Clock-Add-Shipping/dp/BB00KM61MCM  Astronaut Farmer - Trailer |
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Posted: 10/12/2019 5:38:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SilasB]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
We decided that the Earth clock needed white hands to for better contrast. The really good news is we got it working after being told we broke it and it needed replaced. I worked with it most of the day yesterday and finally got it to set it's time. https://i.imgur.com/qf5yky4.jpg Big hand: Apollo rocket Little hand: Mercury rocket Minute hand: leave it as is. Edit: or a skinny Goddard rocket |
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Posted: 10/12/2019 6:08:53 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilasB:
A thought, could you guys print your own clock hands? Big hand: Apollo rocket Little hand: Mercury rocket Minute hand: leave it as is. Edit: or a skinny Goddard rocket Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SilasB:
Originally Posted By guns762:
We decided that the Earth clock needed white hands to for better contrast. The really good news is we got it working after being told we broke it and it needed replaced. I worked with it most of the day yesterday and finally got it to set it's time. https://i.imgur.com/qf5yky4.jpg Big hand: Apollo rocket Little hand: Mercury rocket Minute hand: leave it as is. Edit: or a skinny Goddard rocket Could maybe just paint outlines of rockets on the hands as they are? |
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Posted: 10/13/2019 12:58:48 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Maybe as overlays? The three concentric splined shafts are a PITA to work with if hands are removed, nothing 3D printed would fit in the shaft connection sleeve, so modifications would need to be glued to the existing hands and light weight. Could maybe just paint outlines of rockets on the hands as they are? |
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Posted: 10/13/2019 7:52:35 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By redoubt:
Maybe just attach tiny capsules to the ends of the hands. Apollo CM on the hour hand, Gemini on the minute hand, sputnik on the second hand. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By redoubt:
Originally Posted By brass: Maybe as overlays? The three concentric splined shafts are a PITA to work with if hands are removed, nothing 3D printed would fit in the shaft connection sleeve, so modifications would need to be glued to the existing hands and light weight. Could maybe just paint outlines of rockets on the hands as they are? |
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Posted: 10/13/2019 10:53:34 AM EDT
[#31]
Just set the clock to Mars time.
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Posted: 10/13/2019 10:56:11 AM EDT
[#32]
If you must take the hands off, place alignment marks on the hands and the stem they go on. You will need to to color or otherwise uniquely ID the mark to the hand.
When you get ready to put the hands back on, just align the marks and the time should be correct. Use a fine point scribe to make the marks. |
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Posted: 10/14/2019 10:39:30 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FB41:
If you must take the hands off, place alignment marks on the hands and the stem they go on. You will need to to color or otherwise uniquely ID the mark to the hand. When you get ready to put the hands back on, just align the marks and the time should be correct. Use a fine point scribe to make the marks. As fragile as the clock mechanism seems to be, I don't think we want to remove the hands. 
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Posted: 10/14/2019 11:48:54 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
+100.00 more FRP paste, plywood, and 2x4s _________________________________ $950.00 total as of 9/19 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By guns762: +283.00 Three sheets of 1/2" 4x8 plywood, and one sheet of 3/16ths 4x8 lexan. Ouch. 
______________________________________ $490.00 total as of 8/29/19 2x4's, chickenwire, FRP paste, T50 staples _____________________________ $690.00 total as of 9/6/19 ________________________________ $850.00 total as of 9/12 _________________________________ $950.00 total as of 9/19 ------------------------------------------------------- $1000.00. Total as of 10/14 |
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Posted: 10/14/2019 8:29:25 PM EDT
[#35]
Update 10/14
We had to take a little break today for most students to critique their work formally. We did a repaint with a less shiny paint. We think this looks better and doesn't show as many faults. 
The pivot model is looking excellent. 
We glued down the first Martian colony building. Details will be added later. 
Marvin is getting closer but his hands are too big. We have another set of gloves to try tomorrow. 
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Posted: 10/14/2019 9:27:32 PM EDT
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Marvin's hunting with Vortex Optics Viper spotting scope....episode 2.
Marvin was not quite as lucky this last weekend, but it looks like they saw plenty of game, just not in the right area. Big Marv is safety concious.
In WY, any hunt usually is in breathtaking scenery. 
Marvin was dedicated to finding something for our hunter. 
Nothing like finding the game right outside of town and not in your hunt area. This is through the Vortex Viper with a phone. 
Marvin is scheduled to go back out this weekend. He may even be double booked. 
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Posted: 10/14/2019 9:50:30 PM EDT
[#37]
Can we get Marvin to try and spot Opie??????
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Posted: 10/14/2019 10:09:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GiggleSmith:
Can we get Marvin to try and spot Opie??????
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Posted: 10/16/2019 9:38:59 AM EDT
[#39]
Update 10/16
I'm pretty sure this was meant as some sort of threat to Marvin........ His finger was left on my gradebook.
We just might see Marvin come all together today. We still need his "angry eyes" painted on his face, but I think that is about it. 
More details are coming along on the pivot system. 
The irrigation pipe needs some gates and a little more paint on our Powell field. 
Electrical boxes, and conduit are now showing up on our silos. 
@FB41 the new cheese graters are amazing, according to my students.
After nice work on some of the Mars colony envirodomes, I reminded the student that he was putting those on the backside of the building where no one would see them.
"Luke's Place" is getting glued down, and almost ready for more details. 
Marvin and his Vortex Optics Viper spotting scope went out for another elk hunt last night. There was a little confusion about who was getting to take him out. He was a bit double booked . That might have been where the finger came from.
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Posted: 10/16/2019 3:58:19 PM EDT
[#40]
Update 10/16.2
Yeah, this will be on our silos.
Marvin is getting close...... 
Fitting the first span of pivot.... 
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Posted: 10/16/2019 5:32:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Glad to see the 'cheese graters" are working for you.
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Posted: 10/16/2019 5:39:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/16.2 Yeah, this will be on our silos.
https://i.imgur.com/S0V0TFb.jpg Marvin is getting close...... https://i.imgur.com/yhv4fJu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6tRsqpw.jpg Fitting the first span of pivot.... https://i.imgur.com/kaVUy6X.jpg On second look. A slight hint.. Maybe in thin lines of a medium grey? 
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Posted: 10/16/2019 6:12:12 PM EDT
[#43]
Meanwhile, back elsewhere.....
 Building a Marsbase is a Horrible Idea: Let’s do it! |
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Posted: 10/16/2019 7:11:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
I thought there was more detail, but I guess the sclera were all that were really ever visible in the cartoon, lots of expression for just a white outline, my brain must have filled in eyebrows. Though he does look a little hung over (or stoned) near the carnucles, recreational conjunctivitis or something. On second look. A slight hint.. Maybe in thin lines of a medium grey? https://i.imgur.com/NtvAbza.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MWikFwG.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Update 10/16.2 Yeah, this will be on our silos.
https://i.imgur.com/S0V0TFb.jpg Marvin is getting close...... https://i.imgur.com/yhv4fJu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6tRsqpw.jpg Fitting the first span of pivot.... https://i.imgur.com/kaVUy6X.jpg On second look. A slight hint.. Maybe in thin lines of a medium grey? https://i.imgur.com/NtvAbza.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MWikFwG.jpg I have the reference at school and will post the version we used. It had more realistic eyes. |
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Posted: 10/16/2019 7:14:06 PM EDT
[#45]
I am most relieved his face is getting painted. It was unnerving to see his body w/ a black ball for a face.
(This post not brought to you by the Fort Worth Police Department) |
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Posted: 10/16/2019 7:53:37 PM EDT
[#46]
Here at e a few more from today.
I can talk to the Eye Artist about more expression lines tomorrow. Hopefully she won't hurt me.
First fitting to his rocket. We still need his cowboy hat.
Little more work on "Luke's Place." 
Second span of pivot is taking shape. 
More SpaceX Starship glass. 
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Posted: 10/16/2019 8:07:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#47]
Elon needs to quit changing the design.
My CAD team isn't going to like me. The students on the SpaceX Heavy rocket team probably will kill me.
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Posted: 10/16/2019 8:20:36 PM EDT
[#48]
Engineers will keep changing stuff until you tell them to put the pencil down, the test is over. They can't help it.
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Posted: 10/16/2019 9:13:35 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthM8:
Engineers will keep changing stuff until you tell them to put the pencil down, the test is over. They can't help it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6HojLBsnw |
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Posted: 10/16/2019 9:37:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Here at e a few more from today. I can talk to the Eye Artist about more expression lines tomorrow. Hopefully she won't hurt me.
https://i.imgur.com/RSbYWbc.jpg https://i.imgur.com/5fkma2R.jpg First fitting to his rocket. We still need his cowboy hat.
https://i.imgur.com/C2aHcRw.jpg Little more work on "Luke's Place." https://i.imgur.com/SCQYmnU.jpg Second span of pivot is taking shape. https://i.imgur.com/qeDR75h.jpg More SpaceX Starship glass. https://i.imgur.com/XJsbvE0.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TcKJdQy.jpg --ETA Helmet level matte ? |
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