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Posted: 8/15/2019 6:45:00 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RoccoOnFire:
Love these threads. I have a bunch of surplus electronic components from obsoleted products that I can send some of if you are interested. If not for their intended purpose, just for aesthetics or something. semiconductors, leds, 8 character displays, connectors, naked power supplies, and a bunch of other stuff. PM me when you get into it if you are interested. 
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Posted: 8/15/2019 6:49:43 PM EDT
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Op, I bet you could make bank as a project manager.
I'm glad you're a teacher. 
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Posted: 8/15/2019 6:50:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GregMc:
At that size, all I've seen is about $500 per lineal foot (18" dia). A little spendy. 
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Posted: 8/15/2019 6:50:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Can it be anchored to the pole with redheads and L-brackets or similar so the base/flame area could be surrounded by the thin flexible sheets? I'm thinking of material similar to the strength/look of transparency for an overhead projector. The cotton lighting effects from the modeling guys along with red, amber, orange, and white LEDs could look awesome. Sweet idea with the plastic fiber optic as well. Remember to get Robotics the outline of the idea before October.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By GregMc:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By Ashraam:
Originally Posted By guns762:
There you go! Perfect. Now I just need to find a big enough clear strong tube for the base. 
Yeah, and we will probably need a couple feet. I'll bet someone makes a bucket that might work. The cotton lighting effects from the modeling guys along with red, amber, orange, and white LEDs could look awesome. Sweet idea with the plastic fiber optic as well. Remember to get Robotics the outline of the idea before October. We can attach what ever we use to plywood base and anchors around the pole like we did last year. Should be able to have plenty of places to attach and secure. |
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Posted: 8/15/2019 6:51:33 PM EDT
[#5]
Finally, back to good t-shirts.
Mission to Mars Door Gunner! Case-IH autonomous tractor  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/15/2019 6:52:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luv_the_huskers:
18" white PVC I do not vouch for the seller I just found them as a cheaper alternative.  I was told he can probably get me enough for our main rocket body, no problem, and probably free. 
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Posted: 8/15/2019 6:54:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ibn_Huq:
If I were in Wyoming I would buy a donation ticket to an open house night that featured your program just to see those works so good of you OP to be the teacher you are 
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Posted: 8/15/2019 6:55:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
I got to thinking while I was running my dog......why does it have to be perfectly round..????....Some Lexan in a thicker variety could be melted into a rough, bulbous colum, and encase the fiber optics and cotton that way. I just don't want it to break if it gets bumped into or kicked. We can attach what ever we use to plywood base and anchors around the pole like we did last year. Should be able to have plenty of places to attach and secure. |
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Posted: 8/15/2019 6:58:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthM8:
Finally, back to good t-shirts. Mission to Mars Door Gunner! Case-IH autonomous tractor https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/215362/636123868232203799-Farm-Progress-Show-EJ-134_jpeg-1055648.JPG  Of course, one of my students's dad is the Case dealer, so maybe we should go that route.
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Posted: 8/15/2019 7:01:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoosierhick:
What about making the column the launch tower and putting the rocket up on the wall already in flight with a vapor trail leading back to the column? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoosierhick:
Originally Posted By guns762:
I got to thinking while I was running my dog......why does it have to be perfectly round..????....Some Lexan in a thicker variety could be melted into a rough, bulbous colum, and encase the fiber optics and cotton that way. I just don't want it to break if it gets bumped into or kicked. We can attach what ever we use to plywood base and anchors around the pole like we did last year. Should be able to have plenty of places to attach and secure. |
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Posted: 8/15/2019 7:06:18 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
It's always surprising how many arfcommers have found their way here over the years for a tour. |
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Posted: 8/15/2019 7:16:38 PM EDT
[#12]
@guns762 - drop me a PM if you have any immediate tools needs to get started this year.
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Posted: 8/15/2019 7:20:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZNetEng:
@guns762 - drop me a PM if you have any immediate tools needs to get started this year. |
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Posted: 8/15/2019 7:24:01 PM EDT
[#14]
Hmmm...Mars, and someone already mentioned Elon Musk...you know that means that Musk's Tesla to Mars has to be incorporated into the mural somewhere.
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Posted: 8/15/2019 7:24:46 PM EDT
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IN for the awesome job the students do every year
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Posted: 8/15/2019 7:31:36 PM EDT
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OST
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Posted: 8/15/2019 7:38:55 PM EDT
[#17]
Awesome!
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Posted: 8/15/2019 7:40:04 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
When we get to those kinds of details, I'll hit you up. Thank you! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By RoccoOnFire:
Love these threads. I have a bunch of surplus electronic components from obsoleted products that I can send some of if you are interested. If not for their intended purpose, just for aesthetics or something. semiconductors, leds, 8 character displays, connectors, naked power supplies, and a bunch of other stuff. PM me when you get into it if you are interested. |
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Posted: 8/15/2019 8:19:16 PM EDT
[#19]
IN....day 1...page 3
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Posted: 8/15/2019 10:55:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
I got to thinking while I was running my dog......why does it have to be perfectly round..????....Some Lexan in a thicker variety could be melted into a rough, bulbous colum, and encase the fiber optics and cotton that way. I just don't want it to break if it gets bumped into or kicked. We can attach what ever we use to plywood base and anchors around the pole like we did last year. Should be able to have plenty of places to attach and secure. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By brass:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By GregMc:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By Ashraam:
Originally Posted By guns762:
There you go! Perfect. Now I just need to find a big enough clear strong tube for the base.
Yeah, and we will probably need a couple feet. I'll bet someone makes a bucket that might work. The cotton lighting effects from the modeling guys along with red, amber, orange, and white LEDs could look awesome. Sweet idea with the plastic fiber optic as well. Remember to get Robotics the outline of the idea before October. We can attach what ever we use to plywood base and anchors around the pole like we did last year. Should be able to have plenty of places to attach and secure. Another option perhaps would be little bollards around it to prevent it from being bumped/vandalized without the outer protective shell at all? This would also leave a decent size "void" to stash the electronics, power supply fiber core and driver, etc. Fit things in without a shoehorn. I believe we need a new sketch, the room is far too small for my current ideas. They're essentially your current ideas, but expanded. What is your estimated count of independent robot (microcontroller) devices? The rocket could just be flashing lights and easy. If you needed to control motors, that gets spendy fast. RasPi would allow a phone sized color display show whatever animation you'd like for under $20 I believe (Plus the Rpi itself). You already know how LEDs work and have an idea of the cos of motor drivers and decent motors + mounting hardware. Is the plan similar to the Helo? Immersive, where looking into it one way is mars, and looking back out is Wyoming? --ETA: Ever goof around with Google SketchUp or Autodesk Fusion 360 (harder) to lay it out for a virtual walk-through prior to building the items themselves to get dimensions proper? |
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Posted: 8/16/2019 8:11:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: It doesn't have to be perfectly round and it doesn't need to be a single piece. You've got lots of experience in bending plexiglass now, the helo is proof of that! Save a LOT of volume and add strength by holding upper rocket with a 3' long 4x4, then a 12" diameter inside wrapped with an 18" clear tube on the outside for protection. That would leave 6" of gap to add a lot of depth if done right, providing perception that it is floating on the flames alone. Another option perhaps would be little bollards around it to prevent it from being bumped/vandalized without the outer protective shell at all? This would also leave a decent size "void" to stash the electronics, power supply fiber core and driver, etc. Fit things in without a shoehorn. I believe we need a new sketch, the room is far too small for my current ideas. They're essentially your current ideas, but expanded. What is your estimated count of independent robot (microcontroller) devices? The rocket could just be flashing lights and easy. If you needed to control motors, that gets spendy fast. RasPi would allow a phone sized color display show whatever animation you'd like for under $20 I believe (Plus the Rpi itself). You already know how LEDs work and have an idea of the cos of motor drivers and decent motors + mounting hardware. Is the plan similar to the Helo? Immersive, where looking into it one way is mars, and looking back out is Wyoming? --ETA: Ever goof around with Google SketchUp or Autodesk Fusion 360 (harder) to lay it out for a virtual walk-through prior to building the items themselves to get dimensions proper? I like that description. Encasing the flames at the base is going to be necessary, and I think the lexan in several organic molded pieces should do that.The room may be small, but that may be a plus. I like the way it lent itself to the locomotive display, and I had similar concerns, then. Yes, I'd like to see the Wyoiming to Mars transition be fluid. I'm not sure I'm set on one view WY, the other Mars. I'm kind of open on that. I'm going to go in this morning and write on the board the ideas expressed in this thread. From there we can pick and bounce off of them to see what would be best. Robotics and their talent will be the determining factor for how many moving pieces we have. As to a new sketch,  I'll try to draw over one of the photos with MS paint.
I dont think we have photoshop on our desktops. We are supposed to have SketchbookX on there, but I'll have to check. Dont hold your breath....  I'll use this as an excuse, but leaving some ambiguity to the idea, can sometimes get more original ideas from the students, and ARFCOM, as no one will feel locked into just my vision. That goes for me too.
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Posted: 8/16/2019 8:19:04 AM EDT
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Tag. Guns, you are raising up a whole generation in the way that they should go. Love the projects, and follow them religiously. Drive on, sir. You're doing right.
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Posted: 8/16/2019 9:11:58 AM EDT
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Guns, what ever happened to the modern train going into a tunnel on the back wall and old train is coming out idea?
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Posted: 8/16/2019 9:20:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bansil:
Guns, what ever happened to the modern train going into a tunnel on the back wall and old train is coming out idea? And, I'm not sure I could get enthusiasm for another train. I get the same reaction talking about an F22, or The Red Baron's plane to go with our Sopwith Camel. 
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Posted: 8/16/2019 9:22:11 AM EDT
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I like this current idea, should be fun, with really no limits but imagination
you will need to watch 1960's alien/Mars movies in class
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Posted: 8/16/2019 9:28:25 AM EDT
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Tag
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Posted: 8/16/2019 10:00:43 AM EDT
[#27]
Tag-a-roooooo
And away we go!! EBR |
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Posted: 8/16/2019 11:51:14 AM EDT
[#28]
These folks may be a big help if you go down the red autonomous tractor path.
https://www.solberg.design/portfolio https://www.core77.com/firms/solbergdesign/Case-IH-Autonomous-Tractor |
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Posted: 8/16/2019 11:51:55 AM EDT
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I giggle every time I walk by Marine One, and "Hail To The Chief" plays.
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Posted: 8/16/2019 12:45:57 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthM8:
These folks may be a big help if you go down the red autonomous tractor path. https://www.solberg.design/portfolio https://www.core77.com/firms/solbergdesign/Case-IH-Autonomous-Tractor
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Posted: 8/16/2019 1:02:10 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By webtaz99:
Most people (even Mars enthusiasts) tend to forget the realities of the being on the surface. And yes, growing plants will help people's morale and mental health, but there will be windows on the wall, rather than greenhouses. It's also amusing to me that most of the rocks on Mars that have been "cleaned" by rovers are white or blue. Once we give it a good dusting, Mars may not be the "red planet" anymore.
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Posted: 8/16/2019 1:16:25 PM EDT
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What ever tractor we do, we need to have something about 7 1/2 ft long x 4 1/2 ft wide in size. Not sure what scale that will end up to be, but that would fit the space best.
Our Falcon Heavy should be somewhere about 14' tall with about 2-3 feet of flame under it. |
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Posted: 8/16/2019 1:55:16 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EBR666:
Tag-a-roooooo And away we go!! EBR
Glad you made it.
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Posted: 8/16/2019 2:46:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Tag for another year
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Posted: 8/16/2019 3:07:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JoseCuervo]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Found these today to show to students. Thanks for pointing that fact out. Should make for some stunning mural work; oranges and blues....complimentary colors......or a Denver Broncos Fan's dream world.
https://i.imgur.com/XFbo1HE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BculvGJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/YI3RR0Z.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tCgB7cb.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By webtaz99:
Most people (even Mars enthusiasts) tend to forget the realities of the being on the surface. And yes, growing plants will help people's morale and mental health, but there will be windows on the wall, rather than greenhouses. It's also amusing to me that most of the rocks on Mars that have been "cleaned" by rovers are white or blue. Once we give it a good dusting, Mars may not be the "red planet" anymore.
https://i.imgur.com/XFbo1HE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BculvGJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/YI3RR0Z.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tCgB7cb.jpg 
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Posted: 8/16/2019 4:17:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo: The panorama landscape pic is actually the Columbia Hills Complex in memory of the lost astronauts. It would be a nice background for your display. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg/1280px-Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg |
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Posted: 8/16/2019 4:41:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmnoid77:
There's your space shuttle tie-in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmnoid77:
Originally Posted By JoseCuervo: The panorama landscape pic is actually the Columbia Hills Complex in memory of the lost astronauts. It would be a nice background for your display. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg/1280px-Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg 
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Posted: 8/16/2019 4:54:36 PM EDT
[#38]
In for another year .
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Posted: 8/16/2019 5:43:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Found these today to show to students. Thanks for pointing that fact out. Should make for some stunning mural work; oranges and blues....complimentary colors......or a Denver Broncos Fan's dream world.
https://i.imgur.com/XFbo1HE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BculvGJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/YI3RR0Z.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tCgB7cb.jpg
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Posted: 8/16/2019 6:00:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Yup, excellent idea.
Thanks JoseCuervo for pointing that out! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By dmnoid77:
Originally Posted By JoseCuervo: The panorama landscape pic is actually the Columbia Hills Complex in memory of the lost astronauts. It would be a nice background for your display. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg/1280px-Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg
Thanks JoseCuervo for pointing that out!
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Posted: 8/16/2019 6:22:12 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TLF:
Tequila always helps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TLF:
Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By dmnoid77:
Originally Posted By JoseCuervo: The panorama landscape pic is actually the Columbia Hills Complex in memory of the lost astronauts. It would be a nice background for your display. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg/1280px-Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg
Thanks JoseCuervo for pointing that out! Not for long now, however! 
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Posted: 8/16/2019 7:01:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Towely]
[#42]
What do you do with these once the display comes down?
edit: or are you filling the school with these? If so that's going to be the most bad ass school building ever. That submarine build was fantastic. The entire railroad scene as well. |
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Posted: 8/16/2019 7:03:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2019 7:14:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Towely:
What do you do with these once the display comes down? edit: or are you filling the school with these? If so that's going to be the most bad ass school building ever. That submarine build was fantastic. The entire railroad scene as well.
It's a fun school to walk through. 
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Posted: 8/16/2019 11:53:22 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StealthM8:
Finally, back to good t-shirts. Mission to Mars Door Gunner! Case-IH autonomous tractor https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/215362/636123868232203799-Farm-Progress-Show-EJ-134_jpeg-1055648.JPG Just. Want. Txl |
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Posted: 8/17/2019 8:34:54 AM EDT
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I missed last year's thread.
I'm pumped for this year's though! You're an awesome teacher. Your students are incredibly lucky to have someone like you in their lives. |
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Posted: 8/17/2019 8:38:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By davisac:
Tweet Elon and see if he'll lend you anything. |
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Posted: 8/17/2019 1:41:01 PM EDT
[#48]
Tag for the tee shirt.
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Posted: 8/17/2019 1:56:59 PM EDT
[#49]
Tag. Another year, another t-shirt.
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Posted: 8/17/2019 2:03:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
... good idea Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Winston_Wolf:
Originally Posted By davisac:
Tweet Elon and see if he'll lend you anything.
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