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Posted: 5/12/2001 1:41:08 PM EDT
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It's not a Bushmaster, nor an Armalite. DPMS is IMO a second line brand. Better than Brand X, but definitely not top line, and the price should reflect this. They seem to be more malfunction-prone, and generally 'looser' than Bushy. Buy it only if the price is right.
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Posted: 5/12/2001 2:35:36 PM EDT
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Maxell,
I've talked to quite a few guys that build AR rifles for a living. Im not just talking cookie cutter AR's either. These guys specialize in building counter sniper, national match type AR rifles for law enforcement and distinguishing civilians. What I've heard time and time again is that Eagle Arms and DPMS make the best, most consistent, quality AR parts available hands down. Especially, when your talking PRE-BAN receivers. These guys have built rifles on every major and kno-name brand out there and recommended using those two brand names. Take it or leave it the choice is yours. Good luck with your rifle, O3 out!! [sniper] |
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Posted: 5/12/2001 8:36:05 PM EDT
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I have a pre-ban DPMS that is very tight. I am very please with it and would recommend them. They are priced a little lower, but I wouldn't be too worried about quality. Maybe they have a ban rep., but mine is a jem.
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Posted: 5/12/2001 8:40:30 PM EDT
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I bought a pre ban DPMS in '94 the week the preban went into effect. IT WAS THE BIGGEST PIECE OF SH#T that I have ever owned.
Talked to a couple of guys that have owned pre ban DPMS, and they also thought that they were a POS. The newer DPMS is of better quality, but I would still rather have a Colt or Bushmaster POST ban instead of a DPMS PRE ban any day of the week. Just my .02 Another guy is posting a thread today about having problems with a pre ban DPMS he just bought, might want to check it out. |
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Posted: 5/13/2001 1:58:20 AM EDT
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I think that DPMS must have gotten better as time went one cause I think they have a good rep now. I have read that they bought out Essential Arms, and that Ruger Investement cast both of these guys lowers.
I own both a pre ban DPMS, and an Essential Arms pre ban. The DPMS is the sloppiest lower I own. Though it functions fine, you can clearly see that where the lower meets up with the upper it is not straight, but is a wobbly line. This makes for an incredibally tight fit. Too tight. I think DPMS has improved alot since they first started, and if I were building an accurized AR, would go with one of their uppers. |
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Posted: 5/13/2001 4:34:11 AM EDT
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OK all you folk that have POS ARs, just send the parts you don't like to me. Also if you would, sweep your garage floor and send me the all the small parts you've lost in the past. I've been wanting to make an ugly AR 'mongrel' for quite some time.
Remember, only you can make this happen for me! |
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Posted: 5/13/2001 8:43:45 AM EDT
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I agree with Door Kicker, the rifles that I have seen in the last couple of years are A LOT better then the Pre Ban models that I have seen.
I didn't care for the fit and finish on the pre ban DPMS. I did put a Bushmaster upper on the DPMS lower and didn't have any functioning problems, still got rid of the gun anyways. I don't know if anyone can confirm this or not, but I heard that the quality of the DPMS rifles dropped some time during '94. I guess DPMS was aware of the possibility of the ban and were trying to produce as many rifles as possible, and in the process letting the quality of their firearms slip a little. If this is true maybe I just got one of these rifles. |
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Posted: 5/13/2001 11:00:44 AM EDT
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read my post,,,, My day at the range talkes about DPMS
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Posted: 5/13/2001 2:01:56 PM EDT
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I'll just say that I'm happy with my pre-ban DPMS lower. Dependability was what I wanted and it hasn't let me down yet.
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Posted: 5/13/2001 6:25:58 PM EDT
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This is another FWIIW story, but at the last guns show I was at, an older man was looking at one of the DPMS rifles at my table and was talking about back when Ruger"used to make the lowers"
I have heard this several times, and don't know if it is true. Anyway, he said that apparently one of the Ruger emoloyees dropped some of the tooling that was used in the process, and cranked out "out of spec" lowers for a few months before he finally confessed what he did and was fired. Maybe this is where my screwed up pre ban lower came from, I don't know. It functions fine but is obviously out of spec. Now DPMS forges their lowers too. |
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