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Posted: 12/20/2003 12:33:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2003 12:36:17 PM EDT by thedave1164]
I am disturbed by those that think it is right to remove someones rights, if they are accused.

So tell me, which GOD given right/rights are you willing to give up for safety/protection from terrorists?

The First Amendment?

The Second Amendment?

The Third?

Fourth? Fifth?

Any?

All?


Where does it start?


Where does it end?


Is the blood of our forefathers worth so little?

Did they fight, lose everything, and die for naught?


Link Posted: 12/20/2003 12:40:18 PM EDT
Not a single one....The Lord privides the protection that I need. He has given and only He can take it away.
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 12:47:50 PM EDT
NONE, BUT. The problem with freedom is that the scumbag losers get it too.
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 12:48:16 PM EDT
[s]Amendment III No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.[/s] Never mind! As much as I like my fellow Marines, they can't stay with me. I wouldn't give any of them up...
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 12:54:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By R-32: Not a single one....The Lord privides the protection that I need. He has given and only He can take it away.
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Ditto
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 1:04:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GunnyG: [s]Amendment III No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.[/s] Never mind! As much as I like my fellow Marines, they can't stay with me. I wouldn't give any of them up...
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Gunny you crack me up!....[lol]
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 1:12:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2003 1:13:28 PM EDT by Cold_Warrior]
I thought we got rid of those nuisance rights long ago. Didn't everbody follow CA's lead? CW
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 1:14:59 PM EDT
Also, which god? CW[BD]
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 1:25:02 PM EDT
Well since NONE of mine were given by a god....I would say none.
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 1:29:34 PM EDT
"None" - vote #21. Although the 1st sure is wounded now...
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 1:37:12 PM EDT
I don't think any of us would willingly give up our civil rights but it's not up to us. If the feds want to infringe our rights they can and often do (AWB,Patriot Acts). We do as they say or get insubordinate asses thrown in the slammer. They don't give a rats ass about the Constitution in times of turmoil.
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 1:45:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By buffalo-soldier: They don't give a rats ass about the Constitution in times of turmoil.
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Correction: They don't give a rat's ass about it at [b]any[/b] time, turmoil or not.
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 1:50:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By buffalo-soldier: I don't think any of us would willingly give up our civil rights but it's not up to us. If the feds want to infringe our rights they can and often do (AWB,Patriot Acts). We do as they say or get insubordinate asses thrown in the slammer. They don't give a rats ass about the Constitution in times of turmoil.
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Yep, and in times like now, that is what the "evil doer's" want....and we're giving it to them. To hell with the PA...I'd rather be free and at risk than live in a 'Big Brother' state. "live free or die", and that is exactly what I'm doing whether I break the law or not. As long as I don't hurt anyone else...where is the harm? -HS
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 3:41:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stormbringer2: Well since NONE of mine were given by a god....I would say none.
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Forgive my ignorance of Canadian gov, but IIRC you have rights based on what the king/queen give you?
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 3:48:22 PM EDT
rights under a monarchy are granted by the Crown and are revokable. However, the founders of our country rightly recognized that a mans rights are endowed by their creator and are therefore not revokable by man. No matter what people may lead you to believe.
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 4:32:41 PM EDT
I'm not "giving" anything up. Try to take if you must..... [img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/858902/2267174/30000763.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 4:50:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stormbringer2: Well since NONE of mine were given by a god....I would say none.
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Well, that's it fer him. If you believe (truely) you have no "inherent rights", you might as well just walk away to the nearest "re-education camp". (don't worry, there will be one soon.)
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 5:08:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2003 5:09:10 PM EDT by MAC-DADDY]
Who the fuck voted for the 2nd? and why the hell do you want to be HERE?
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 5:12:42 PM EDT
The right of women to vote. LOL.
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 5:28:32 PM EDT
The framers of the U.S. Constitution gave us those rights. While generally very good guys, they aren't God. [;)]
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 5:45:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By drjarhead: The right of women to vote. LOL.
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Damn beat me to it. Is there one covering women driving? (huge SUV's across two lanes of traffic too fast during Christmas time while talking on the cell phone and eatting a Big Mac?)
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 5:51:04 PM EDT
"...the right to keep and arm bears." I could do without that one, if I had to. [:D]
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 5:56:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe: The framers of the U.S. Constitution gave us those rights. While generally very good guys, they aren't God. [;)]
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Sorry, wrong, they recognized that GOD, our creator, had endowed us with those rights, they just affirmed them with the BOR.
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