How Ironic....the skinny guys got the big mouths.

DAAAAYUMMMM!!!! [puke]

I hope you were at MOPP level 4 for that mission, Doc!  You rate a combat "V" on your bushpilot wings. [lol]

So if you're at the range & shoot yourself in the foot, you're going to pay for that out of pocket?  Do you have any other dangerous hobbies?  What about riding a bicycle and you ride out into traffic and get smacked?
As I said, my most dangerous activity is riding a motorcycle, and my auto policy has a medical rider for me and a passenger if I get into a wreck.  Most likely though that money would be used for two funerals around here.

No increase in rates means no payout.  Increase in rates enables a payout.  The math profiles the necessity of one (increase in rates, payout for illness) or the other (no increase, no payout).
My most dangerous activity is reading.  I'll call you if I get a paper cut.

I showed it to my wife, who IS a medical professional (family physician), and she laughed her ass off, while saying, "Yep, I've had to do that, too....."

Not really fat just don't give a shit for people who wish other people dead!  

Who elected any of you guys to choose who lives or dies or how anyone should live their life in your image by your standards. IMHO, this is not what this country is founded on and your comments do not represent the American way of live and let live.

As far as fucking us.......I'll gladly compare tax schedules with anyone who's out there bitching about being screwed. I pay my own insurance not my company and have never welched on dept. How many of you can say that?

You all talk about who needs health care but yet never address the real cause which is rising costs of healthcare and those who don't pay their own way. Now here's something to bitch about.

No I don't consider myself fat but I do consider myself an American and will defend the right for a person to be who they are and not condemn them for not being in my image of perfection. If I did you dead beats and people haters would be in deep shit. This is what this country was founded on Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Cast your stones at this time of Christmas for I know you all think yourselves better than Christ himself and have no faults or you would not be bitching about those of others.

You guys need to write down just how you think people should live then move to California and pass the laws. You can then march anyone who doesn't fit your image of the "Way to Live" into a gas chamber.  

....and Merry Christmas to you all too.



Tj

Sidebar: Doublefeed buddy you need to get out more!  BTW, rates should really climb for couch potato's. LOL [:D]

edited: To remove references to Nazi's in regards to people wanting to see overweight people dead per request of the Mods.

You need to get out more.

It's a good thing that I'm not obese, because I'm really going to enjoy RipMeyer's gift exchange present.

This thread was becoming rather [b]morbid[/b], so I thought I'd [b]lighten[/b] things up.

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Mr. 'Jefferson': Your assumption of that name is troubling at the very least.

I do not support anyone that would consume excessive amount of calories, causing them to balloon into caricatures of human beings.
It's very common in my city, for an office to have diabetics as 30% of it's workforce. Type 2 diabetes is a lifestyle disease. You get it from not eating properly, and from not exercising. These same people will continue to stuff their face with the unhealthiest crap - even when presented with viable option.
Ever see two 350 sisters having to schedule their work around hospital and doctor visits????


You stoop to referring to people here as nazis because they dare to have a different opinion then yours.

If you feel that one way you can contribute to your country, is to be an overweight, short of breath, shuffling along semi-invalid- by all means - carry on.

If you feel that that is how your maker designed you to be- with big bellies, and clogged arteries and multiple chins- more power to you.

I don't buy it. I'm sure there are many overweight people who require no more routine medical care than anyone else. That's not to say they will not have problems later in life, of course.

Actually, if the words Black, Latino, Muslem, etc, were substituted for Fat or Obese, this thread would be locked and more than one member banned.

"Should" and reality don't often coincide.

Deer hunting accident: the medical bills fall on you.
Bicycle accident: the medical bills fall on you.
Fall off the ladder painting your house: the medical bills fall on you (should of hired a professional).
Junior shoots his eye out with a bb-gun: the medical bills fall on you (improper supervision).

Where does it end?

Guy, I'm a medical professional, and hang around medical professionals every day. If you think shit like this isn't common conversation, you're wrong.

I am 100% certain that is the case. Fat people and smokers are the last "bashable" members of our society. Where are the moderators when you need them? [;)]

However, you bring up an important point. Blacks are prone to certain diseases by virtue of their race. Sickle Cell, hypertension, etc. Should Blacks be barred from group health plans? Should they pay an additional premium?

First off, Hmmmmmm! Pork products!

It would be more fair to everyone to be charged for risk factors.  If we like guns and have to pay extra for possible injuries, so be it. Its the cost of the hobby we enjoy. But the other side is also true.  Then smokers, obese people, drinkers all need to be charged more.  People who take care of themselves should be given a discount.  High risk=high cost.

What really breaks my heart is about one of my patients.  She is a single mom.  A pretty good mom from what I can see. She works some mean hours at night as a waitress. She tries to be at home during the day for the kids.  She makes just enough to get by.  But too much for Medicaid.  Then I see fat lazy slobs who never work get anything they want. What is really sad is that they think they are entitled to all the medical care they want for free. They are also the first to sue for anything.  Medicaid was meant for the first case. She needs some minor surgery but she cant afford it. I waived my fees and the hospital cut theirs in half but its still a lot of money for her.

In a rare flash of intelligence, the Social Security Administration deleted the listing for obesity a couple of years ago. Morbid obesity can still be found to be a disabling condition, but it's not the slam-dunk allowance it used to be.

Now if we could only do something about the fibromyalgia drama queens...

Sorry, I was stuffing my face with the fattiest chili I could find, and I found some cigarettes in the drawer.
Life is good.  When's the last time you bashed yourself?  Lemme tell ya, it REALLY does warp the fabric of space/time [:D]

Looks like I struck a nerve. [:D]

I'm all for this, but how to you determine it?  Do you actually have to show proof of excercise?  There are lots of people that can sit around stuffing their face more that the tubbos and not gain an ounce.  I would bet that they're not exactly healthy in terms of cholestorol etc.  So do we score people's insurance risk based on bloodwork & voluntary disclosure of dangerous activities?  If you lie about your activities, you're not covered?  Who pays if someone goes for a 5 minute ride on my motorcycle and gets hurt?  What about that guy from work you take shooting and winds up missing an arm?  Or that whitewater rafting trip you take on vacation one year?

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Oops, no mention of fat asses and smokers.

Bash to your little heart's content! [;)]

Man, if this kind of showing against each other is the best you can do, how do you think you have a prayer of winning a debate against the leftists?
I think it is time to shut this one down.