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Posted: 12/19/2003 12:08:46 AM EDT
Does anyone know the arms they currently use, pistols through armor?
The only one I can find is the their battle rifle is the FAL.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 1:25:37 AM EDT
yeah they're a force to be delt with aren't they?[rolleyes] j/k
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 1:46:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/19/2003 1:51:58 AM EDT by Noname]
[url]http://www.scramble.nl/ma.htm[/url] [url]http://orbat.com/site/orbats/data/morrocco/morocco_army.html[/url] [url]http://faculty.winthrop.edu/haynese/mlas/morocco.html[/url]
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 2:18:15 AM EDT
Thanks for the links. I was wondering because Powell was over there and told them we are going to up their military aid fourfold. I was wondering what we are going to give them.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 2:26:10 AM EDT
I'm still looking for a list of small arms used if anyone knows where to find it. I have one from the 80's but I'm pretty sure it has changed.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 6:57:16 PM EDT
FAL's, a lot of Soviet and Chicom supplied AK and AKM's. The US provided them with several thousand M16A1's via FMS back in the early 80's. Like most 3rd world countries they use what ever is supplied by the US or Soviet allies depending on who they like at that particular time.
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 8:36:12 PM EDT
Back in the 80's we deployed there as part of the 6th fleet, landing force, 24 MEU (SOC) then called MAU. We crosstrained with them and one of the funniest things I remember about them is that they thought the spinning wheel mortermen use to determine what fuze to put on rounds,(Sorry cant remember what its called, I was an 0311 by trade) the Moroccans thought was some magic thing, their Mortar guru a MSgt, just stared down range at the target and guesstamated fuze and range, which almost always missed. and they had a hell of a lot of short rounds...lol
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 10:14:50 PM EDT
Okay this is going to be long. Per my copy of Small Arms Today 2nd Edition printed in 1988 small arms are as follows. Handguns: HK4 - 2,000 purchased from H&K in 1977 Walther PP - Manuhrin made HK VP70M - HK Germany MAS Mle. 1950 pistol - France MAB P-13 - ? S&W M10 - US MAP delivered 20 before 1975 Colt Detective Special - US MAP delivered 96 before 1975 Subguns: Beretta M38-49 - ? MP5 - Made in England at Enfield MAT 49 - ? L2A3 - UK Sterling MAC-10 - US ? M3 greasgun - MAP delivered 1,172 before 1975 Rifles: M1 and M2 Carbines - US and Beretta made copies M16A1 (Model 613) - US, Colt direct purchase of 3,500 in mid-1970's and FMS delivered 122 before 1975 M16A1 (Model 653) - US, Colt direct purchase of 100 in mid-1970's Beretta Mod. 70 - Delivered by FN MAS 36 - ? MAS 49/56 - ? AK 47/AKM - East Block origin incliding Romanian made M76 - Valmet, at least 600 in service FN FAL - FN origin. Adopted in 1963. An additional 10,000 ordered from FN in 1982. BM59 Mark IV - Italy ? G3 - Made at MAS in France M14 - US, FMS delivered 44 National Match versions before 1975 and 48 standard M14's in 1982 Machine Guns: MAC Mle. 24/29 AAT52 GPMG RPD LMG BM59 Mark IV FN FALO HK11 LMG FN MAG M60 M60D M73 and M219 MG74 (MG3) M134 (Minigun) M37 SGMT M1918A2 M1918A4 M2 HB .50 DShK38/46 Hope this helps.
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 10:37:21 PM EDT
Thanks, that is a little more up to date. What is the latest edition of Small Arms Today? Does anyone know?
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 11:33:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Luckystiff: Okay this is going to be long. Per my copy of Small Arms Today 2nd Edition printed in 1988 small arms are as follows. Handguns: HK4 - 2,000 purchased from H&K in 1977 Walther PP - Manuhrin made HK VP70M - HK Germany MAS Mle. 1950 pistol - France MAB P-13 - ? S&W M10 - US MAP delivered 20 before 1975 Colt Detective Special - US MAP delivered 96 before 1975 Subguns: Beretta M38-49 - ? MP5 - Made in England at Enfield MAT 49 - ? L2A3 - UK Sterling MAC-10 - US ? M3 greasgun - MAP delivered 1,172 before 1975 Rifles: M1 and M2 Carbines - US and Beretta made copies M16A1 (Model 613) - US, Colt direct purchase of 3,500 in mid-1970's and FMS delivered 122 before 1975 M16A1 (Model 653) - US, Colt direct purchase of 100 in mid-1970's Beretta Mod. 70 - Delivered by FN MAS 36 - ? MAS 49/56 - ? AK 47/AKM - East Block origin incliding Romanian made M76 - Valmet, at least 600 in service FN FAL - FN origin. Adopted in 1963. An additional 10,000 ordered from FN in 1982. BM59 Mark IV - Italy ? G3 - Made at MAS in France M14 - US, FMS delivered 44 National Match versions before 1975 and 48 standard M14's in 1982 Machine Guns: MAC Mle. 24/29 AAT52 GPMG RPD LMG BM59 Mark IV FN FALO HK11 LMG FN MAG M60 M60D M73 and M219 MG74 (MG3) M134 (Minigun) M37 SGMT M1918A2 M1918A4 M2 HB .50 DShK38/46 Hope this helps.
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Can you imagine the logistical headache just from the ammunition supply point of view? Let's see: 7.62 X 39, 7.62 X 51 (NATO), 7.62 X 54R (Russian), 30-06, 7.5mm (French) and .30 Carbine. Six different calibers just for the rifle / light machine gun / GPMG! I do not want to be the logistical officer in that army!
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 11:46:38 PM EDT
Most of it sits in depots, I bet. Everything is see them with in pics is .308 right now.
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