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Posted: 12/15/2003 4:19:32 PM EDT
Man what an anti Newspaper.

www.detnews.com/specialreport/index.htm
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 4:25:28 PM EDT
[#1]
Check out the poll (middle left column, above "Related Links":
Should guns be brought under the control of the Consumer Product Safety Commission, so that safety standards can be enforced?
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I hit it:
Yes  17.24%

No  82.76%
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Link Posted: 12/15/2003 4:27:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes forgot add, hit the poll.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 4:32:31 PM EDT
[#3]
Done. Voted no. If this ever came to be some liberal would come in and say a gun looked evil,(hence unsafe) so it has to be banned
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 4:36:30 PM EDT
[#4]
I loved the article about Glocks.

"I think it may be an appropriate weapon for highly trained paramilitary officers in a SWAT team, but not for most police officers and certainly not for civilians."

Darn, what is happening when police are having trouble properly handling Glocks!? The whole point of the Glock design is to be extremely simple for poorly-trained people to operate safely; the only way to render it unsafe is to pull the trigger!

OK, this is probably just propaganda and inaccurate/bias. Actually, I find this rather derogatory to police officers. I know I would feel insulted if someone clamed that I couldn’t operate a Glock safely.

Edited to add:

Hit the poll
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 4:41:44 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I loved the article about Glocks.

"I think it may be an appropriate weapon for highly trained paramilitary officers in a SWAT team, but not for most police officers and certainly not for civilians."

Darn, what is happening when police are having trouble properly handling Glocks!? The whole point of the Glock design is to be extremely simple for poorly-trained people to operate safely; the only way to render it unsafe is to pull the trigger!

OK, this is probably just propaganda and inaccurate/bias. Actually, I find this rather derogatory to police officers. I know I would feel insulted if someone clamed that I couldnÍt operate a Glock safely.

Edited to add:

Hit the poll
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Ok but we have a safety link ! [:)]
[url]http://www.detnews.com/2003/specialreport/0312/15/a12-7194.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 4:54:27 PM EDT
[#6]
Detriot, what a sh*t hole.


Yes  16.60%
No  83.40%

 

Link Posted: 12/15/2003 4:57:59 PM EDT
[#7]

I hit the poll.

All who know the paper will not be shocked at the stance taken by it. Free press in Detroit went the way of the Dodo many years ago.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 4:58:17 PM EDT
[#8]
Yes  16.49%

No  83.51%

 
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 5:07:45 PM EDT
[#9]
Done. I can't believe the bullshit put out by the anti's. Actually, I can.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 5:09:37 PM EDT
[#10]
done.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 5:22:22 PM EDT
[#11]

Nailed it...

Yes  16.20%

No  83.80%

 
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 5:30:27 PM EDT
[#12]
Yes  15.93%

No  84.07%

 
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 5:49:34 PM EDT
[#13]
Yes:  15.61%
No:   84.39%

Bite me you liberal pigs!
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 6:03:15 PM EDT
[#14]
Gun Safety



Should guns be brought under the control of the Consumer Product Safety Commission, so that safety standards can be enforced?



Yes  15.50%

No  84.50%

 
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 6:05:24 PM EDT
[#15]
been there, hit that!
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 6:12:56 PM EDT
[#16]
Done!
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 6:24:03 PM EDT
[#17]
And done.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 6:27:12 PM EDT
[#18]
Hit.

How can humans be so stupid?

What a bunch of maroons...
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 6:41:47 PM EDT
[#19]
Vote Early, Vote Often!

Right, Mr. Kennedy?
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 6:56:41 PM EDT
[#20]
Hit it!
What idiots...
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 4:28:06 PM EDT
[#21]
btt
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 4:39:58 PM EDT
[#22]
WTH? Is DU hitting this poll???

Yes  33.35%

No  66.65%

 
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 4:54:37 PM EDT
[#23]
now

yes - 30%
no - 70%
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 5:02:46 PM EDT
[#24]
Yes  24.67%

No  75.33%

 
Needing help...
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 5:08:39 PM EDT
[#25]
i hate detroit. the community sucks, and it will always suck because they're a bunch lazy bastards want to be tube fed.

god, what a shit hole!
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 5:17:04 PM EDT
[#26]
WTH? Do they reset this poll every day???

How can the % be changing that fast???

What are they doing, running the poll until they get the answer they want???

How many ??? am I allowed in one post???

Link Posted: 12/16/2003 5:58:31 PM EDT
[#27]
[img]http://www.detnews.com/pix/2003/12/16/asec/a016-guns1-1203n-2.jpg[/img]
California-based firearms expert and historian Whit Collins fires a radio-controlled gun. He says gun makers should take a serious look at new firearm safety technology that is available to them. "Some clearly show significant promise," he said.
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It appears that he a former editor of Guns and Ammo, and helped develop the 10mm. Now he is in bed with HCI. With friends like these, who need enemies? [:(!]

Another person to whom the regulations were sent is Whit Collins. Mr. Collins claims to be a former editor of Guns And Ammo magazine back in the 1970’s.  
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[url]http://www.goal.org/fraud/report.htm[/url]

From the ballistician who gave us the 10mm Auto now comes the Centimeter cartridge.
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[url]http://www.pistoldynamics.com/AH_1987_Carttridge.html[/url]


Here is some of his work as a firearms consultant:


Powerful cartridges fired from short barrels pose additional threat to public safety

In addition to the public safety hazard of compact handguns due to their concealability, the Task Force discussed the public safety hazard posed by small, high-powered guns with short barrels. Task Force member Whit Collins explained that the greater the distance between the front and rear sights on a barrel, the less the optical error, and, conversely, the smaller the distance the greater the error. Therefore, short-barreled guns necessarily have less accurate sights than long-barreled guns. Collins also said that high-powered cartridges don't completely burn in less than four inches [most, if not all guns prohibited by the recommended standard have barrels less than four inches], meaning the gas is not entirely combusted when it reaches the muzzle. This causes turbulence and an "uneven, hard blow to the base of the bullet as it exits the gun." Short-barreled guns also tend to emit loud blasts, and bright flashes that are disorienting and cause all but the most experienced shooters to flinch, throwing off their aim. All of these factors make high-powered, compact guns more difficult to control, and therefore a greater threat to public safety.
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[url]http://www.wagv.org/taskforce/020201chr.htm[/url]

He said Whit Collins had no credentials, but was only a consultant for Handgun Control, Inc.
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[url]http://www.ci.pleasanton.ca.us/archive/ccminutes980209.html[/url]
Link Posted: 12/16/2003 6:06:01 PM EDT
[#28]
hit it!

Yes    23.79%
No     76.21%
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