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Posted: 12/15/2003 2:26:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2003 2:35:01 PM EDT by LWilde]
I just noticed this on Drudge and I damn near had a coronary!

CAMPAIGN CASH RACE TURNS INTERNATIONAL; MOVEON.ORG CENTER OF INTRIGUE; CLARK SEEKS CANADIAN SUPPORT, WEBSITE SHOWS...


Frustrated with the lack of domestic support, left-leaning website MoveOn.org has apparently been reaching beyond American borders to generate cash revenue over the internet!

The provocative international fundraising strategy threatens to embroil the presidential candidacies of General Wesley Clark and former Vermont Governor Howard Dean.

Both men are named on international fundraising websites suggesting donations to MoveOn.org.

MORE...

Meanwhile, MoveOn.org, which has been running ads critical of the Bush Administration, has named an "International Campaigns Director," the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

It is not clear how much money has been raised -- to date-- from foreign sources, but political websites from London to Portugal to Montreal are directing their citizens to stop the American president George Bush by donating to MoveOn.org!

Wesley Clark's official campaign website has been offering a link to "Canada For Clark", which in turn advises Canadians: "Non-Americans can't by law, give money to any particular candidate's campaign. But we can support pro-democracy, progressive American organizations like MoveOn.org, which do their best to spread the ugly truth about Bush and publicize the Democratic message. Click here to donate to MoveOn.org."

The top traffic referrer to CanadaForClark.com is Clark's Official Campaign Website.

Both men are named on international fundraising websites suggesting donations to MoveOn.org.

Dean04Worldwide.com is a noncommercial and volunteer website offered by Corinne Sinclair, a non-US citizen, based in London. Domain registration information indicates the website name servers are owned by PromoHosting.com, a website hosting service based in Portugal. Dean04Worldwide.com encourages non-Americans across the global to help Dean win the 2004 election.

A notice on the website explains how to provide funds to MoveOn.org, since non-Americans cannot donate directly to the Dean campaign.

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Now THIS is what happens as a result of stupid campaign finance laws!

Somebody PLEASE tell me what in the HELL is going on here! I am so fucking MAD I could spit nails! NO FUCKING WONDER THE LIBERALS LOVE THE EUROPEANS SO MUCH!!! They are helping to finance their candidates.

Time for some letters to hit DC.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 2:38:11 PM EDT
I don't see what is wrong with this, legally. There isn't even a law keeping any of those foreign countries from running anti-US commercials on US TV and Radio stations. And all you can do is get caught. Under the new campaign finance laws only a few thousand dollars of all the money MoveOn.org can gather can go directly to the Democrats or the canidate of their choice. They are simply going to spend the rest on attack ads against Bush. But doing it this way means that everyone knows that they are foreign funded. And the GOP special operations groups will use that against them in their unregulated adds.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 3:16:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl: But doing it this way means that everyone knows that they are foreign funded.
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Who is "everyone"? The american public? LMFAO. Sure the republicans will try to inform voters. You how many will pick up on it? Probably about the same number that can find Iraq on a world map, or maybe the same number who can name one of their state's senators. Just more of the liberal sell out of America. Anything to hold onto power. Sell the country out like Clinton did to the chinese. BFD. No one gives a shit. I'll bet they will, though, if nukes with improved guidance systems start falling on US cities...
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 3:27:05 PM EDT
Weren't they getting money from Communist China not long ago?
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 3:29:59 PM EDT
WTF??? What do you care?? This is a natural outgrowth of "Globalization". Don't you think someone in France or Canada, or Mexico has a legitimate interest in who is President of the US?? Isn't the US currently setting up new governments, enforced by US troops, in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Serbia?? What's yer prollem?? Aren't we "world citizens"? After all, Bush seems to think it's a GOOD thing that foreigners swarm across our southern border!! He's gonna give 12 million or so "amnesty"!! [ROFL] Those SAME foreigners are allowed to VOTE!! What's yer prollem?? Go back to sleep, and vote Tweedely-dee!!! [snoopy]
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 3:31:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Javak: Weren't they getting money from Communist China not long ago?
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yes they were, yes people found out about it, and yes it was one of the things that cost them the 2000 election.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 3:40:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ArmdLbrl:
Originally Posted By Javak: Weren't they getting money from Communist China not long ago?
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yes they were, yes people found out about it, and yes it was one of the things that cost them the 2000 election.
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Ah, bullshit. No one gave a damn. What cost them the election was Al "plasticman" Gore waffling on issues almost daily as the polls changed. He couldn't even win his own state which probably had more to do with his stance on guns than anything. What cost them the election was a more highly mobilized conservative base sick and tired of 8 years of the Klintonistas. If you asked most people now whether or not Clinton/Gore got money from the Chinese I'd bet 90% wouldn't even have a clue what you're talking about. for that matter, I would submit that without their underhanded campaign funding they wouldn't have stood a chance.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 5:12:55 PM EDT
Precisely why only individual registered voters should be able to make any monetary contribution to a candidate or their respective party. No corp. contributions, PAC's, etc.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 9:37:34 PM EDT
It's illegal for foreigners to contribute to American political campaigns. Outfits like Moveon.org, I dont know. Probably legal. What I am anticipating a little down the line are campaigns conducted by foreigners begging Americans not to vote for George Bush again. I'll bet you a steak dinner that will happen. There will be anti-Bush demonstrations, etc in Canada and Europe (hopefully the Middle East, too).
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 10:11:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By raven: There will be anti-Bush demonstrations, etc in Canada and Europe (hopefully the Middle East, too).
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Any of these protests are welcome in my book. Nothing like firing up the 'ole independent streak in us. The Dems will loathe the day they sold out to this concept!
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 11:29:50 PM EDT
Moveon.org is a communist front organization that gets its money from international islamofascistsocialist scumbags. They will not tell you who their supporters are. They do tell you that some of their funding comes from San Francisco Foundation Community Initiative Funds. They got some of their funds from the Richard and Rhonda Goldman fund. This fund has supported the nature conservancy. A left wing nonprofit that supports illegal immigration and when it buys up land, makes off limits to all people except the privileged few. The Edith Munson foundations is listed as a donor. The foundations published purpose is to provide money for "Funding the conservation of natural resources in the North American and the Caribbean basin with emphasis on North America." The Enemies are within and need to be delt with. I understand the need for conservation, but these people are against everything that this country stood for when it was founded. These are the ULTIMATE BIGOTS. THEY FIGURE THAT YOU ARE NOT FIT FOR ANYTHING EXCEPT WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO HAVE. They will help carry out the rape of America and laugh all the way to the bank.
Link Posted: 12/15/2003 11:37:31 PM EDT
Furriners can't contribute to candidate campaigns, but moveon.org isn't affilated with a candidate. (wink, nudge.) It's supposedly an independent organization. I think they're riding for a fall. All it takes is for someone to prove coordination between moveon.org and a candidate campaign (which is illegal) and the whole thing will turn into a giant scandal.
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