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Posted: 12/12/2003 4:52:48 PM EDT
That is, As we get closer to the election, are you ready to detail how the 'progressive' position is communism by another name?
It has been said that you can sneak an amazing amount of evil past the eyes and ears of good people if you simply do not call it what it really is. The success of the 'progressives' depends on their beliefs not being named as communist. Make sure and make it stick when you name the evil.
The planks:
1. Abolition of property and land; application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emmigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with
state capital and an *exclusive monopoly. (*Exclusive monopoly on lending and interest rates.)
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all distinctions between town and country by a more equitable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Link Posted: 12/12/2003 4:57:06 PM EDT
[hijack] Got my email yesterday? Your IM inbox is full. [/hijack] NsB
Link Posted: 12/12/2003 5:03:18 PM EDT
That goes a long way in explaining why I haven't gotten any IMs for three weeks. I got your email. Will send it out monday.
Link Posted: 12/12/2003 5:08:02 PM EDT
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Those are the general points of the Communist Manifesto. It, with its many finer points, should be required reading. Scott
Link Posted: 12/12/2003 5:14:46 PM EDT
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I just found more:
The following document is the most widely read document in the world, second only to the bible. In just under 140 years this document has captured the minds of more than 2,800,000,000 people in the world's population. Communist/socialist teachings are consuming freedom at lightning speed. There are semi-socialist governments all over the world now (like America) and they are slowly progressing into a state of bankruptcy and [red]ultimately they must become fully socialized to survive the inevitable social anarchy that always accompanies semi-socialist financial collapses. This 'progressive democratic movement' is openly talked about without much sham now-a-days.[/red] The governments of America and the world are slowly progressing from a free people into a socialist people which must eventually progress into the bliss security of the global social commune. (The new world order) This is a world where hard labor is rewarded with minimal pay but great social guarantees for the laborers. (The Socialized Serf Slaves of the New Kings) It's a world where excess achievement is highly punished by taxation and other legal liabilities. The new world Kings can easily stay in control of their Federalized Mega-corporations by rewarding government loyalty the old medieval way, by re-distributing the spoils of middle-class (bourgeois or serf) taxation and property confiscation of those citizens who would dare to reach beyond sub-poverty. The Roman empire died this way and by a most violet and swift death. The rich liberal Romans put 90% of the tax pressure and regulatory burden on the laborers and the small up and coming merchants. This oppressive burden has a devastating effect on the poor and middle-class in comparison to the tax-pressure faced by the rich-liberals that claimed they liked high taxation because it helped the poor. Sure the Mega-rich liked high taxes, the rich can afford high taxation while the up and coming middle class are stifled by it and the poor are kept in place, as we can see in American ghettos.
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[url]http://www.oicu2.com/afc/manifesto.html[/url]
Link Posted: 12/12/2003 5:27:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2003 5:45:00 PM EDT by Scottman]
But we wont like to fight it because of this:
Humans are social creatures by nature but the best social unit comes from a moral family unit and best complimented by a highly localized democratic government social system, generally town or county based.
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Moral?!?! "Don't impose your morals on me!" Scott
Link Posted: 12/12/2003 5:35:40 PM EDT
Is this how the coming campaigns will go?
I'm sad in reading that not just for my own survival.... or even for the survival of so many thousands of others in this country. I'm sad because I'm a "community" person stuck in a "rugged individualist" society! In other words, it isn't just that I want to be able to have an effect when I agitate for my own needs, but that I also so much need to live in a society whether others need *ME*. Where I can be counted on to live through the hard times in order to further the needs of other people. I need to live where people first think of pulling together for each other, rather than thinking always of themselves first.
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