I know its been discussed here but I dont know exactly what titles to search.
I'm looking for stats on gun deaths vs other types of "accidental" deaths.
ie: pool drownings, farm machinery, cars, poisoning, falls etc...
Specifically farm machinery.
TIA

Here's your Farm Deaths, info, [url]http://www.nsc.org/farmsafe/factsheets.htm[/url] for the others you can go to the FBI web-site and they have their statistics there.

Believe it's [url]www.fbi.gov[/url], look on the left sidebar menu, under "reports", IIRC.

Mike

Is there a site that lists all accidental deaths?

[url]http://www.the-eggman.com/writings/death_stats.html[/url]

Mike

Here a link to something I posted on a German webboard a few weeks ago; I was arguing against Bowling for Columbine:
[url]http://www.heise.de/tp/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=4607400&forum_id=49777[/url]

Let me check my notes...

Here my source from which I compiled the article:
[url]http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/cv02.txt[/url]

Of 57.9 million Americans who went swimming in 2001, 4,406 drowned. About 6 to 10 times (up to 45,000!) that number suffered lasting damage.
[red]In ten US states, Alaska, Arizona, California, Florida, Hawaii, Montana, Nevada, Oregon, Utah and Washington, drowning is the most common cause of death amongst children and adolescents; which I find especially amazing in the cases of Nevada and Utah, seeing how those are desert states.
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Yet there hasn't been a  polemic movie illustrating the dangers of water since "Jaws".

In 2000, 15,586 people have been killed in the US. 2001: 15,980, guesstimatiations for 2002: 16,110.
An unreasonable high portion of those killings concern young, black males.

Most of the cases have been intra-racial, meaning White people kill Whites; Blacks kill Blacks. (So much for Michael Moore's claim it's frightened Whites who kill innocent Blacks and that the NRA is the militant wing of the KKK.)
In 2002, 71% of violent crimes (rape, robbery, homicide, aggravated assault) did NOT involve weapons of any kind.

With the exception of Mexican and Black gang crime, which raised the murder rate a tad (up .8 percent), the number of crimes against persons or property have been as low in 2002 as they haven't been since 1973.

Only in 63% of the homicides guns have been used. Compare that with 80 million American gun owners who own about 250 million guns and billions of rounds of ammunition.

Complete crime stats, as recent as August 2003 (nothing newer available yet AFAIK) at:
[url]http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/cv02.txt[/url]

Edited to remove German text [img]http://www.threeoaks-marshall.com/forum/images/smiles/eusa_doh.gif[/img]

Try www.guncite.com.
That's where I direct wavering anti gunners. They always take a look and go, "Whoa".
I say "wavering" because you just cannot change a zealot.

I just read yesterday that Harvard University did a study relating to cell-phone use and car accidents.  They have determined (approx) 2,500 people are killed each year because of cell-phone use while driving a motor vehicle.

And you don't even want to /know/ the number of people who blow a gasket each year sitting on the shitter. "He died peaceful in his sleep!" my ass. His eyes popped out and his ticker stopped while he was pinching off a loaf, that's what happened to Uncle Billy-Sue.

[b][u]Causes of Death in the US: (2000)[/u][/b]

[u][b]TOP TEN CAUSES:[/b] http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lcod.htm[/u]
710,760 = Heart Disease
553,091 = Cancer
167,661 = Stroke
122,009 = Chronic Lower Respiratory Disease
97,900 = Accidents
69,301 = Diabetes
65,313 = Pneumonia/Influenza
49,558 = Alzheimer's Disease
37,251 = Kidney Failure (nephritis etc.)
31,224 = Septicemia

For comparison:
Total Deaths By Firearms, All Causes = 28,663
Total Deaths By Motor Vehicle Accidents = 43,354


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[b][u]Accidents:[/u][/b]
43,354 = Accidents - Motor Vehicle
13,322 = Accidental Falls
    *   355 = accidental falls from a ladder
    * 1,307 = fall on or from stairs
    * 7,146 = unspecified falls
12,757 = Accidental Poisoning
    *   302 = accidental poisoning by alcohol
3,482 = Accidental Drowning
    *   465 = drowning in a swimming pool
    *   317 = drowning in a bathtub
    *   900 = drowning in natural water
    *   193 = other drowning
    * 1,246 = unspecified drowning
3,377 = Accidental Exposure To Smoke/Fire
  776 = Accidental Discharge of Firearms
    * 131 = accidental discharge of rifle, shotgun and larger firearm
    * 120 = accidental discharge of handgun
    * 525 = accidental discharge of other and unspecified firearm

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[u][b]Suicide:[/b][/u]
16,586 = Suicide by Firearm
12,764 = Suicide by Non-firearm Means

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[u][b]Homicide:[/b][/u]
10,801 = Homicide by Firearm
    * 1,068 = Homicide by handgun
    *   694 = Homicide by rifle, shotgun and larger firearm
    * 9,039 = Homicide by other unspecified firearm

5,964 = Homicide by Non-firearm Means
    * 1,805 = Homicide by sharp object
    *   658 = Homicide by hanging, strangulation & suffocation
    *   210 = Homicide by blunt object
    *    31 = Homicide by drugs, medicines & biologicals
    *    18 = Homicide by gases and vapors
    *    39 = Homicide by drowning
    * 2,252 = Homicide by other or unspecified means

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[b][i]Others:[/i][/b]
744 = choking on food
54 = contact with hornets, bees or wasps
50 = struck by lightning
31 = bitten or crushed by reptile
27 = contact with power lawn mower
26 = bitten or struck by dog

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The Definitive Source For Causes Of Death in 2000:
[url]http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/wktbli.pdf[/url]
(it's a big file and it takes a while to figure out the way it's organized)

Here's an interesting comparison:

In 2000 there were:
- 4,303,762 registered motorcycles and mopeds in the US (15.3 per 1,000 people).
- Approx 250,000,000 firearms in the US (865 per 1,000 people).

And there were:
- 2,618 fatal motorcycle accidents
- 776 fatal firearm accidents

[u]Which means the accidental death rate is:[/u]
Motorcycles = 1 accidental motorcycle death per 1,644 motorcycles
Firearms = 1 accidental firearm death per 322,164 firearms

So therefore.... [b]the death rate from motorcyle accidents is nearly [red]200 times [/red]the death rate from firearm accidents.[/b]

[b]"Motorcycles are far too dangerous for the general public!"[/b] [soapbox]


Oh but that doesn't take into account the TOTAL number of deaths from firearms! Well, okay let's look at that:

28,663 = Total firearm deaths (1 per 8,722 firearms)
2,618 = Total motorcycle deaths (1 per 1,644 motorcycles)

[u]Which means the TOTAL death rate is:[/u]
Motorcycles =  1 motorcycle-related death per 1,644 motorcycles
Firearms = 1 firearm-related death per 8,722 firearms

So therefore... [b]the death rate from motocycle accidents is still over [red]FIVE times[/red] that from [u]ALL[/u] types of firearm-related deaths.[/b]


[b]"Nobody needs a motorcycle! They're too dangerous! [u]Guns Are Safer[/u]!"[/b] [soapbox]

More:



[b]Deaths By Firearm In 2000:[/b]

[u]Total Deaths By Firearms - All Causes: 28,663[/u]
* suicide by firearm: 16,596 (57.9%)
* homicide by firearm: 10,806 (37.7%)
* firearm, accidental discharge: 774 (2.7%)
* firearm, legal intervention: 258 (0.9%)
* firearm, undetermined intent: 229 (0.8%)
NOTE: Total Deaths By Firearms in 2000 was 0.7% lower than in 1999 (28,874).

[u]Deaths By Firearms [i](Suicide)[/i] By Race And Sex (% of firearm-suicides / % of total firearm deaths)[/u]
* White (Non-Hispanic) Male: 12,448 (75.0% / 43.4%)
* White (Non-Hispanic) Female: 1,885 (11.4% / 6.6%)
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Male: 949 (5.7% / 3.3%)
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Female: 124 (0.7% / 0.4%)
* Hispanic Male: 737 (4.4% / 2.6%)
* Hispanic Female: 76 (0.4% / 0.3%)
NOTES:
Highest number of deaths by firearm/suicide was 1,221 for white (non-hispanic) males aged 40-44.
Second highest number of deaths by firearm/suicide was 1,114 for white (non-hispanic) males aged 45-49.
Third highest number of deaths by firearm/suicide was 1,075 for white (non-hispanic) males aged 35-39.

[u]Deaths By Firearms [i](Homicide)[/i] By Race And Sex (% of firearm-homicides / % of total firearm deaths)[/u]
* White (Non-Hispanic) Male: 1,967 (18.2% / 6.8%)
* White (Non-Hispanic) Female: 894 (8.3% / 3.1%)
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Male: 5,011 (46.4% / 17.5%)
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Female: 611 (5.6% / 2.1%)
* Hispanic Male: 1,738 (16.1% / 6.1%)
* Hispanic Female: 220 (2.0% / 0.8%)
NOTES:
Highest number of deaths by firearm/homicide was 1,406 for black (non-hispanic) males aged 20-24.
Second highest number of deaths by firearm/homicide was 1,002 for black (non-hispanic) males aged 25-29.
Third highest number of deaths by firearm/homicide was 800 for black (non-hispanic) males aged 15-19.

[u]Deaths By Firearms [i](Accidental Discharge)[/i] By Race And Sex (% of firearm-accidents / % of total firearm deaths)[/u]

* White (Non-Hispanic) Male: 483 (62.4% / 1.7%)
* White (Non-Hispanic) Female: 72 (9.3% / 0.3%)
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Male: 117 (15.1% / 0.4%)
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Female: 20 (2.6% / 0.06%)
* Hispanic Male: 50 (6.5% / 0.2%)
* Hispanic Female: 9 (1.1% / 0.03%)
NOTES:
Highest number of deaths by firearm/accident was 60 for white (non-hispanic) males aged 15-19.
Second highest number of deaths by firearm/accident was 46 for white (non-hispanic) males aged 20-24.
Third highest number of deaths by firearm/accident was 35 for white (non-hispanic) males aged 10-14.

More:



[b]Death [u]RATES[/u] (per 100,000 population) By Firearms:[/b]

[u]Total Death Rate (per 100,000) By Firearms:[/u] 10.4 (10.6 in 1999, -2.5%)
* suicide by firearm: 6.0
* homicide by firearm: 3.9
* firearm, accidental discharge: 0.3
* firearm, legal intervention: 0.1
* firearm, undetermined intent: 0.1

[u]Death Rate (per 100,000) By Firearms [i](All Causes)[/i] By Race And Sex[/u]
* White (Non-Hispanic) Male: 15.7
* White (Non-Hispanic) Female: 2.9
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Male: 39.0
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Female: 4.3
* Hispanic Male: 15.8
* Hispanic Female: 1.9

[u]Death Rate (per 100,000) By Firearms [i](Suicide)[/i] By Race And Sex[/u]
* White (Non-Hispanic) Male: 12.9
* White (Non-Hispanic) Female: 1.6
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Male: 6.0
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Female: 0.7
* Hispanic Male: 4.5
* Hispanic Female: 0.5
NOTES:
Highest death rate by firearm/suicide was 46.0 for white (non-hispanic) males aged 85 or older.
Second highest death rate by firearm/suicide was 38.7 for white (non-hispanic) males aged 80-84.
Third highest death rate by firearm/suicide was 31.0 for white (non-hispanic) males aged 75-79.

[u]Death Rate (per 100,000) By Firearms [i](Homicide)[/i] By Race And Sex[/u]
* White (Non-Hispanic) Male: 2.0
* White (Non-Hispanic) Female: 1.3
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Male: 31.6
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Female: 3.5
* Hispanic Male: 10.7
* Hispanic Female: 1.4
NOTES:
Highest death rate by firearm/homicide was 107.9 for black (non-hispanic) males aged 20-24.
Second highest death rate by firearm/homicide was 85.5 for black (non-hispanic) males aged 25-29.
Third highest death rate by firearm/homicide was 54.3 for black (non-hispanic) males aged 15-19.

[u]Death Rate (per 100,000) By Firearms [i](Accidental Discharge)[/i] By Race And Sex[/u]
* White (Non-Hispanic) Male: 0.5
* White (Non-Hispanic) Female: 0.1
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Male: 0.7
* Black (Non-Hispanic) Female: 0.1
* Hispanic Male: 0.3
* Hispanic Female: nil
NOTES:
Highest death rate by firearm/accident was 1.7 for black (non-hispanic) males aged 15-19.
Second highest death rate by firearm/accident was 1.6 for black (non-hispanic) males aged 20-24.
Third highest death rate by firearm/accident was 0.9 for white (non-hispanic) males aged 15-19.