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Posted: 12/10/2003 3:45:09 AM EDT
I am looking at one for the Mrs.' car which is brandy new....

Let me hear your praises / experiences and cost.

Thanks all.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 3:48:16 AM EDT
The best radar unit would come on the F22 Fighter, but I don't think you can buy one of those.......... OH, a [i]RADAR DETECTOR[/b]. Valentine seems to be the best still.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 3:53:39 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 4:30:11 AM EDT
Any recommendations as to where to purchase????
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 4:39:44 AM EDT
How about a jammer paired with a detector? Kits are available. Out here about all we have is photo radar. I have a license plate cover that stops that. Saved me at least three times. I sleep better knowing the flash from the van I passed on the way home from work won't land me a ticket. I'm never doing more than 10 over but they set the damn things for 6 over.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 4:58:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Wave: Shoot the locks off your wallet and do it right the first time...Valentine One.
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Any recommendations on the best license plate cover for high-angle obfuscation (photo radar) and frequency shifting (laser)? Does anything exist that does both but leaves the license legible at low angles?
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 5:17:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2003 5:17:29 AM EDT by eodtech2000]
This ought to work just fine [:D] [img]http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/equip/an-alq-131-arm1c.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 5:28:13 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 5:45:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2003 5:46:30 AM EDT by LWilde]
I know a guy who solved his annoying cop radar problem and got such SWWWEEETT revenge in so doing. I'm retired Navy. Several years ago, an old shipmate of mine, a certain Fire Control Chief Petty Officer (That's a guy who operates and maintains shipboard missile fire control/guidance radar systems, NOT a fire fighter.) was stationed at the Navy's FC training command in Dam Neck, VA. There happened to be a local cop who frequently preyed on speeding sailors coming into the base. The cop set up about 1/4 mile down the road and popped the guys as they drove in. It was a pretty lucractive gig for quite a while. One day, he caught my friend on his motorcycle. Enraged to the point of finally taking drastic action, the Chief, who was teaching night school at the time, decided to get even. That evening, he turned on the most powerful radar system on the roof of the building (AN/SPG-55 Terrier Fire Control System for you surface sailors that can remember back that far!) and using the co-axially mounted low-level-light TV, located the cop. He then lit off the [b]2 MEGAWATT[/b] continuous wave illuminator and fried the cop's radar (and probably the cops radios and his balls too [;D]). The cop soon left. The next night, he was out there again...and again, the Chief fried his radar. That time, the cop, figuring someone at the school might just be fucking with him, came onto the base and went to the school building. The duty officer called up to the Chief, but by that time he and his helpers were already back in the classroom (having seen the approaching lawman in the LLLTV) and all was copacetic. After that, the cop left and did not return again. Now...is that not the BEST revenge you have ever heard? I have verified this story from two sources...I know it sounds fantastic...but trust me that radar can to it. Before you say, "Where can I get one of those"...forget it. Way too big...uses gobs of power and in fact, they are all out of commission now. Stick with the off-the-shelf systems instead. [:D] Great story. The guy retired as a Master Chief.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 7:14:03 AM EDT
[url]http://www.escortradar.com/jammer.htm[/url]
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 7:18:10 AM EDT
This is the license plate cover I am using. [url]http://integrity.eburg.com/super_protector.html[/url]
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 7:31:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2003 7:33:21 AM EDT by Jim_Dandy]
I have verified this story from two sources...I know it sounds fantastic...
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Nice try, but you lose points for that one. Sea stories ALWAYS begin with "This is a no-shitter" just like fairy tales start out with "Once upon a time."
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 7:40:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By innocent_bystander: This is the license plate cover I am using. [url]http://integrity.eburg.com/super_protector.html[/url]
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I've been wanting one of these for my new car. How do you like it? The web page makes it look bad.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 7:47:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Wave: Shoot the locks off your wallet and do it right the first time...Valentine One.
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The V1 is the best detector, but there's no way to do a remote antenna setup without a fair amount of expensive custom electronics work. Your local car alarm place is out. Valentine only makes a remote readout head, not an antenna setup. Frankly since it was never designed for it I wouldn't trust a V1 with all the mod's needed to have an antenna in the front and rear bumpers. Microwaves are funny about wiring (Called waveguides at that freq.) and might not work even wired right.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 7:56:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jim_Dandy:
I have verified this story from two sources...I know it sounds fantastic...
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Nice try, but you lose points for that one. Sea stories ALWAYS begin with "This is a no-shitter" just like fairy tales start out with "Once upon a time."
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No...it really is true. You are entirely correct about the Sea Story...but in this case the Chief really did zap that cop. No shit...[;D]
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 8:08:43 AM EDT
The license plate cover works. I gave my sister one for x-mas last year. She was pulled over by highway patrol and given a ticket for $74. She would have fought it but she was way out of town when it happened and so was the court. The cop was just being a dick. Even a $74 non-moving violation once a year is cheap compared to a speeding ticket.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 8:11:18 AM EDT
Originally Told By LWilde: No...it really is true. You are entirely correct about the Sea Story...but in this case the Chief really did zap that cop. No shit...[;D]
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Kind of like the YNC (he was the legal yeoman) who told the story about the female sailor at captain's mast who was facing charges for drug use. Claimed she got it from performing oral sex on her civilian husband. That one was true, too. No shit...
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 8:15:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Wave: Shoot the locks off your wallet and do it right the first time...Valentine One.
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I second that one. Vey expensive but great detection. Plus you can get a display mounted in teh dash.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 8:15:34 AM EDT
Originally Posted By innocent_bystander: The license plate cover works. I gave my sister one for x-mas last year. She was pulled over by highway patrol and given a ticket for $74. She would have fought it but she was way out of town when it happened and so was the court. The cop was just being a dick. Even a $74 non-moving violation once a year is cheap compared to a speeding ticket.
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I don't follow. Did having the plate cover get her the ticket? How? The book says the plate must be visable directly behing the vehicle for I forget how many feet. Nothing about from the sides or top. Having one of those covers isn't even PC in CA.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 8:26:07 AM EDT
Yes, just having the cover got her the ticket. The cop lied and said he couldn't clearly see it from the rear. Complete BS.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 5:05:29 PM EDT
Screw these passive countermeasures. [img]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/agm-88-dvic424.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/smart/agm-88-981229nwharm.jpg[/img] The AGM-88 HARM (high-speed antiradiation missile) is a supersonic air-to-surface tactical missile designed to seek and destroy enemy radar-equipped air defense systems. Eat that!
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 5:18:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By innocent_bystander: This is the license plate cover I am using. [url]http://integrity.eburg.com/super_protector.html[/url]
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Press hard, 5 copies.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 5:23:25 PM EDT
Come on, Title 28 is really vague on this.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 5:48:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By innocent_bystander: Yes, just having the cover got her the ticket. The cop lied and said he couldn't clearly see it from the rear. Complete BS.
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You kidding right? The plate cover is designed so the plate is not clearly seen, unless directly behind, which means it is possible for the plate to not be clearly seen: That is it's job. When I come up along the side of a vehicle without that cover, I can see all the numbers, as well as the tabs, but with that cover, the numbers do a good job of disappearing. I of all people around here don't have a problem at all with RADAR defenses, but that plate cover just has "write me a ticket" all over it. Jay
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 6:00:31 PM EDT
BEL Electronics and K40 used to make true remote detectors, but they were not very good. I don't think they make remotes anymore. The closest thing you can get is a V1 (highly recommend), and a inside remote display so the display on the unit doesn't flash, especially at night. Pricey, but worth it. If LIDAR is a big problem where you live, like say, it is in Ohio, there's [url]www.lidatek.com[/url] for that problem. Jay
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 7:10:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/10/2003 7:22:39 PM EDT by BillofRights]
Regarding the plate covers. What does the law actually say regarding plate readability, and the use of covers? Would you two please elaborate on the subject? Are you more inclined to write a ticket because the covers are illegal?, or because the covers are annoying? If so, what would be the typical charge? Does photo radar usually snap the front or the back of a vehicle? Serious questions here, comments from the police appreciated.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 7:12:44 PM EDT
28-2354. License plates; attachment A. A person shall display the license plate or plates as follows: 1. For a motor vehicle, motorcycle, trailer or semitrailer, on the rear. 2. For a vehicle for which two license plates are issued, the vehicle owner shall display either of the following: (a) One plate on the rear. (b) One plate on the front and one plate on the rear. B. A person shall display all license plates as required by subsection A until their lawful use expires or is canceled or revoked. A person shall maintain each license plate so it is clearly legible. A person shall securely fasten each license plate to the vehicle as follows: 1. To prevent the plate from swinging. 2. At a height of at least twelve inches from the ground to the bottom of the plate. [red]3. In a position to be clearly visible.[/red] I haven't found any case law on what is clearly visible. Maybe I can be the first. [rofl]
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 12:55:47 PM EDT
If you are looking for a remote mounted detector, Escort has several to choose from: [url]http://www.escortradar.com[/url] They are custom install only and will cost some serious $$$$^2. Fritz
Link Posted: 12/12/2003 6:59:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2003 7:00:21 PM EDT by AZ-K9]
Originally Posted By innocent_bystander: 28-2354. License plates; attachment A. A person shall display the license plate or plates as follows: 1. For a motor vehicle, motorcycle, trailer or semitrailer, on the rear. 2. For a vehicle for which two license plates are issued, the vehicle owner shall display either of the following: (a) One plate on the rear. (b) One plate on the front and one plate on the rear. B. A person shall display all license plates as required by subsection A until their lawful use expires or is canceled or revoked. A person shall maintain each license plate so it is clearly legible. A person shall securely fasten each license plate to the vehicle as follows: 1. To prevent the plate from swinging. 2. At a height of at least twelve inches from the ground to the bottom of the plate. [red]3. In a position to be clearly visible.[/red] I haven't found any case law on what is clearly visible. Maybe I can be the first. [rofl]
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Just as important is section "A". A person shall display....... And then there is the part in section B "A person shall maintain each license plate so it is clearly legible.". I rest my case, your honor. [:D] Press hard, 5 copies. [;)]
Link Posted: 12/12/2003 7:31:41 PM EDT
Your Honor, I have seen large trucks with their license plates mounted in DOT approved locations that more of the view from an angle is abstructed than mine.
Link Posted: 12/13/2003 4:35:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/13/2003 4:35:42 AM EDT by Lion_Dog]
Originally Posted By innocent_bystander: Your Honor, I have seen large trucks with their license plates mounted in DOT approved locations that more of the view from an angle is abstructed than mine.
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Old Chinese proverb, [honorable bow]"One piccha worth 1000 words".[/honorable bow] I learned this from "THE PEOPLE's COURT" - bring pix!!![:)] Edited: sp
Link Posted: 12/13/2003 5:19:15 AM EDT
Valentine 1 for radar (once you use one, you will never go back to anything else) I've had mine for years (with the remote display) and it has paid for itself many times over. It really is that good. Lidatek gets good reviews from the enthusiasts (BMW, Audi, etc.) but haven't personally used it. Looks quite interesting though. License plate covers (I'd think) should be subtle, lest they draw unwanted attention. Why not just throw mud all over the back of the car?
Link Posted: 12/13/2003 5:24:12 AM EDT
The Army does it too. Had a friend who was stationed at Fort Bliss in the 60's. They had speedtraps set up on base, and he could bring the dish down to zero and paint the guy & detector & *poof* radar gun doesn't work anymore. This wasn't "friend of a friend", this was first person.
Link Posted: 12/13/2003 5:57:54 AM EDT
Instructors at NTC San Diego related stories of the Fire Control radar being used to track vehicles that were crossing the Coronado Bridge. I have no doubt it happened. Remote microwave anyone?
Link Posted: 12/13/2003 6:17:25 AM EDT
Valentine One
Link Posted: 12/13/2003 7:09:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Maynard: Instructors at NTC San Diego related stories of the Fire Control radar being used to track vehicles that were crossing the Coronado Bridge. I have no doubt it happened. Remote microwave anyone?
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Ships only. We didn't have any fire control systems on the beach...if my memory serves me. At those ranges the ERP ratiated into the victim car would have been on the order of a few microwatts anyway so it wouldn't do any harm. It is the CWI illuminator that does the real damage. [:D] I have been down that road onto the Dam Neck base in Tidewater many times. I pretty much can figure out where Chief S****y aimed his SPG-55 and it ain't that far from the school house. A clear field of fire...so to speak. Wonder what that lawman thought when his radar, car radio and cop radios all went poof?
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