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Posted: 12/9/2003 1:57:25 PM EDT
Well I guess Jeep is saying  if you want a Hummer, buy ours ?
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:02:34 PM EDT
[#1]
[puke]
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:05:27 PM EDT
[#2]
stretch-wrangler?
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:07:59 PM EDT
[#3]
One word, UGLY.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:12:12 PM EDT
[#4]
Looks like an R/C toy.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:13:02 PM EDT
[#5]
I like it,
it is also probably much better off-road than the H2
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:14:50 PM EDT
[#6]
What is the source for this?
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:37:26 PM EDT
[#7]
Look lower right on the pic -------- [b]Jeep[/b]
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:37:33 PM EDT
[#8]
I like it. Looks a bit like a rock crawler.

I'm thinking it has something to do with meeting side impact standards in the coming years.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:40:37 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
One word, UGLY.
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I think you mean FUGLY!
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:41:02 PM EDT
[#10]
I like it. Looks like expensive tires.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:44:03 PM EDT
[#11]
I believe this is the one Hummer is suing over.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:44:16 PM EDT
[#12]
I'll reserve judgement until I see one in real life.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:45:26 PM EDT
[#13]
I would prefer they just put a V8 in a TJ and Dynatrac 60s under it, as OEM.

But wait, they are Chrysler engineers, they have to fuck everything up as bad as they can, and have the aftermarket fix it.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:49:19 PM EDT
[#14]
The picture won't work for me, is this the pick-up one?
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:51:18 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
The picture won't work for me, is this the pick-up one?
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try this
[url]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-3/141064/jeepima.jpg[/url]
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 2:57:28 PM EDT
[#16]
No, youre thinking of the way cool Scrambler. Its some kind of ugly ass hummer knock off here.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:40:15 PM EDT
[#17]
Oh. I was thinking of the Brute i just read of in Off Road.  It is a custom from [url]http://www.aev-conversions.com/[/url]
Check it out:
[img]http://www.aev-conversions.com/Gallery/P1010136.jpg[/img]
Edit:
Whats not to like?
37" Mud Terrains
a 5.9L V-8 w/ 235HP and 355 lb./ft. of torgue.
Dana 40 front, Dana 60 rear.
Compact
and still has a 6' by 59" bed.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:42:35 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
I like it,
it is also probably much better off-road than the H2
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Ditto.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:43:44 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I believe this is the one Hummer is suing over.
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Negative. They sued over some other model. Wasn't a Jeep.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:43:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Whoa, that "Brute" conversion is awesome looking.  If I was to plunk down a mad wad of cash, it would be for that.  

Ghost
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 3:50:49 PM EDT
[#21]
[b]This[/b] is the new Jeep.

[img]http://www.gizmo.com.au/pics/2271_01.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.gizmo.com.au/pics/2271_06.jpg[/img]


[img]http://www.gizmo.com.au/pics/2271_11.jpg[/img]


[img]http://www.gizmo.com.au/pics/2271_14.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 4:03:45 PM EDT
[#22]
I think we all know they will not make that for real ----------------- god I pray I am correct.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 4:10:47 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
[b]This[/b] is the new Jeep.

[url]http://www.gizmo.com.au/pics/2271_01.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.gizmo.com.au/pics/2271_06.jpg[/url]


[url]http://www.gizmo.com.au/pics/2271_11.jpg[/url]


[url]http://www.gizmo.com.au/pics/2271_14.jpg[/url]
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Please please please please tell me that is just a concept design and they won't actually produce it? As a Wrangler owner, that makes me want to puke. It looks like a little, bitch city car that some trashy European company would make for the streets of France. Does anyone have any detailed info on this design?
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 4:22:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Can anyone else say POS.  What a POS.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 4:37:06 PM EDT
[#25]
..looks like an old willys wagon on a power wagon chassis(sp?)
..I'd prefer dual dana 60s with a 4 banger cummins diesel on a wrangler.(6 banger if they could fit it in!)
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 4:52:40 PM EDT
[#26]
Good guess, actually it's a stretched TJ with a custom bed.  The engine is pirated from a Grand Cherokee.  Probaly easier.  You can also get a TJ sport, Sahara, or Rubicon.

Since it's custom, you can probaly order how you like it.  I'd go for:
Dual Dana 60s
Dual Air Lockers
Front/Rear winches
Manual tranny.

I'd go for a diesel, but i'd bet that would really jack up the cost.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 5:07:26 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Well I guess Jeep is saying  if you want a Hummer, buy ours ?
[url]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-3/141064/jeepima.jpg[/url]
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Dammit, I like it. Like the Brute too.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 6:25:48 PM EDT
[#28]
I like it.  That color sucks though.  I saw a version of it in person and it was badass.  Rear doors like the ones that are in cyanide's pic could never make it to production though.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 6:33:54 PM EDT
[#29]
DAMMIT!! WHY CANT I SEE PICS!!!

Link Posted: 12/9/2003 6:44:35 PM EDT
[#30]
The more I see modern "jeeps" the more I like the GPW.

Meplat-
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 6:49:52 PM EDT
[#31]
I'd buy one in a sec.

They keep it under 30,000 and I will break my own rules and go down and buy a new one and drive it for the next 20 yrs...
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 7:44:01 PM EDT
[#32]
On Mike's totally free jeep news website, it is referred to as the "RESCUE"

It is also showing up in the Detroit Auto News insider 11-18-03 edition.
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 8:11:36 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
I believe this is the one Hummer is suing over.
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I know GM is sueing Studebaker over their copy of the h2.


[url]http://www.theavanti.com/XUV.html]Studebaker XUV[/url]
[img]http://www.theavanti.com/XUV.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/9/2003 8:43:08 PM EDT
[#34]
Try [url]http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=jeep+Rescue&page=1&offset=1&result_url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26amp%3BrequestId%3D342c6195d57e5ffe%26amp%3BclickedItemRank%3D1%26amp%3BuserQuery%3Djeep%2BRescue%26amp%3BclickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.rockcrawler.com%252Ffeatures%252Fnewsshorts%252F03november%252Fjeep_rescue.asp%26amp%3BinvocationType%3D-%26amp%3BfromPage%3DNSCPIndex&remove_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rockcrawler.com%2Ffeatures%2Fnewsshorts%2F03november%2Fjeep_rescue.asp[/url]

CW
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 4:02:28 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
[url=http://www.theavanti.com/XUV.html]Studebaker XUV[/url]
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Edited to fix link.....[;)]



Link Posted: 12/10/2003 4:26:56 AM EDT
[#36]
the H2 is a piece of garbage
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 6:18:28 AM EDT
[#37]
yup, H2 blows, it is just a chevy truck with a different body
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 6:20:08 AM EDT
[#38]
hummer will win against the studebaker, it really is a close copy, definately a stoled design
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 6:41:26 AM EDT
[#39]
[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-3/141064/jeepima.jpg[/img]

I have my doubts...

This is an enthusiasts vehicle, hence it won't have mass purchasing appeal unless they dumb it down.  That's way too much rolling stock for the 99% of buyers who will stick to the road.  It's just looks too no-compromise to make it into production.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 6:47:10 AM EDT
[#40]
Looks better than the Liberty.

Rough calculations...
approach angle= 70 degrees
break over angle= 142 degrees
departure angle= 55 degrees.

As shown, if geared right, it would make one hell of a rock crawler.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 6:47:48 AM EDT
[#41]
FWIW...I like it.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 6:58:09 AM EDT
[#42]
Looks like a Cherokee that's been to the gym.  I like it.

Scott
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 7:08:54 AM EDT
[#43]
i'll stick with this thank you very much

[img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/061554.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 9:29:15 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
hummer will win against the studebaker, it really is a close copy, definately a stoled design
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I think they might win, but I think it blows if they do.  I don't think Hummer/GMC now owns the copyright on ridiculous "I have no cock" vehicles.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 9:47:51 AM EDT
[#45]
Well, how about the H3T then?

[img]http://www.stern.de/_content/51/72/517207/hummer500_500.jpg[/img]

4.44 meters long, 19 inch tires, 3.5 liter, 5 cylinder GM VORTEC engine, 350 (DIN) HP, 474 Nm torque.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 9:52:57 AM EDT
[#46]

[img]http://www.stern.de/_content/51/72/517207/hummer500_500.jpg[/img]
Words cannot describe how ugly that is.  It looks like a reject from a transformers cartoon.  It looks like it might turn into a carport that holds a real car.
Link Posted: 12/10/2003 11:42:44 AM EDT
[#47]
[img]http://www.aev-conversions.com/images/AficanaSale.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 7:24:20 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
Well, how about the H3T then?

[url]http://www.stern.de/_content/51/72/517207/hummer500_500.jpg[/url]

4.44 meters long, 19 inch tires, 3.5 liter, 5 cylinder GM VORTEC engine, 350 (DIN) HP, 474 Nm torque.
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A 75,000 dollar truck, it will never see a scratch in the bed.
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 8:19:51 AM EDT
[#49]
a good 4X for the market would be an suv that costs less than 28 grand new, 31 inch tires with room for 33's easily, solid axles, full frame, skid plates, lots of ground clearance, approach and depart angles very steep, real bumpers, tow hooks, fornt and back, reciever in front and back, low overall height, 300 hp, lockers in front and back, power steering, electric wench, green, black wheels, no fancy interior, and it is allowed to ride like a lumber wagon, no power anything, just a plain ole am/fm radio, no air, easy acess to the engine to work on, and a manual trans, 410 gears, and a really low ratio transfer case, and full time 4X
Link Posted: 12/11/2003 8:25:42 AM EDT
[#50]
oh yeah, 4 link suspension, front and rear, coil springs, and adjustable control arms, front and rear
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