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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:09:08 PM EDT
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GOA was there *likely* to see how the Government was handling oral argument. They were present at our hearing on the 6th as well. They have a hearing on the 6th of March for their case up in Michigan. NRA and SAF weren't present at our hearing. I'd venture a guess they weren't at Stephen's either given they aren't litigating a case in relation to this topic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So a GOA attorney was there? What about the NRA or 2AF? NRA and SAF weren't present at our hearing. I'd venture a guess they weren't at Stephen's either given they aren't litigating a case in relation to this topic. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:09:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So between your hearing on the 6th and Nolo's hearing today.... When will we know if we are getting an injunction? |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:13:24 PM EDT
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the gov arguments were that this is reasonable, bumpstocks are machineguns, we still don't know if rubber bands are okay. i said, rubber bands are blessed by atf in the final rule and showed them the "alternative 3" which said we could use rubber bands. i said the atf could accept tax payment on these devices if the atf final rule is upheld and they are machineguns. i said only congress has the legitimate authority to regulate this. i said that this should be a 2A case but for the courts not willing to extend 2A protection to MG. what else.... 3 lawyers versus me. i thought the odds were good. i think rubber band bumpstocks are even better than regular bumpstocks due to cost and i let the judge know that i brought in two "bump stock type devices' which the ATF blessed (rubber bands). i argued for a good bit. i'll get a transcript when available.
the most interesting thing. the judge told the gov lawyers that if they plan to do anything with the new AG and ratification of the rule "you should do so sooner rather than later". |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:13:29 PM EDT
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Thanks Nolo!
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:16:23 PM EDT
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Thank you Nolo. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:16:32 PM EDT
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Thanks Nolo! |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:19:15 PM EDT
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it was my pleasure. i just pray i gave the judge enough to stop it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks Nolo! |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:22:24 PM EDT
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the most interesting thing. the judge told the gov lawyers that if they plan to do anything with the new AG and ratification of the rule "you should do so sooner rather than later". If the federal courts bless letting the executive branch rewrite the statutory law, the next two years are going to be really fucking amusing. All of us better take up fiddle lessons right quick. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:23:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it was my pleasure. i just pray i gave the judge enough to stop it. 
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:23:58 PM EDT
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it was my pleasure. i just pray i gave the judge enough to stop it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks Nolo! And being that we are a free people, and God is willing, I too pray it is enough. Thank you Nolo. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:25:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Regardless if you did, there are those that watch and those that make history. Thanks for trying to make history. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:29:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: Regardless if you did, there are those that watch and those that make history. Thanks for trying to make history. Those of us who are way less... Intellectually gifted wish we could do what you are doing. Thanks for fighting for all of us that can't. |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:33:07 PM EDT
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it was my pleasure. i just pray i gave the judge enough to stop it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks Nolo! 
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:33:20 PM EDT
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Regardless if you did, there are those that watch and those that make history. Thanks for trying to make history. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks Nolo! Hell of a job Man!! |
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:36:02 PM EDT
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When Nolo ends up winning this can someone label the wrestler as Nolo and the girl as the gov or Trump or something
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Posted: 2/19/2019 11:59:58 PM EDT
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If you've ever wondered what it means to be a good guy, this case is what it means to be a good guy.
We all know congress has the power to ban bump stocks. They banned machine guns and it has held up in court for over 30 years. We're not fighting for bump stocks, we're fighting to make sure the government plays by the rules. In this case, that means the executive branch ought not to rewrite a statutory definition written by congress. The end result is likely to be the same - Congress has the power to ban bump stocks, and if this case of executive overreach fails, Congress may be moved to take action. Even so, fighting to ensure the other players are playing by the rules is a noble cause. If banning bump stocks is what a "MAGA" president does, I'll leave it to the imagination what an antigun president would do given the same power to rewrite the law. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 3:59:04 AM EDT
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Any protesters outside the court house?
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Posted: 2/20/2019 4:15:55 AM EDT
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Any protesters outside the court house? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 4:26:19 AM EDT
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Nolo for scotus
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Posted: 2/20/2019 5:34:45 AM EDT
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Nolo for scotus |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 5:38:04 AM EDT
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If you've ever wondered what it means to be a good guy, this case is what it means to be a good guy. We all know congress has the power to ban bump stocks. They banned machine guns and it has held up in court for over 30 years. We're not fighting for bump stocks, we're fighting to make sure the government plays by the rules. In this case, that means the executive branch ought not to rewrite a statutory definition written by congress. The end result is likely to be the same - Congress has the power to ban bump stocks, and if this case of executive overreach fails, Congress may be moved to take action. Even so, fighting to ensure the other players are playing by the rules is a noble cause. If banning bump stocks is what a "MAGA" president does, I'll leave it to the imagination what an antigun president would do given the same power to rewrite the law. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 7:05:52 AM EDT
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Lol. You think Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearing was bad? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nolo for scotus 
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Posted: 2/20/2019 7:52:15 AM EDT
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I think we're willing to let you go through the wringer at the chance of making it happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Nolo for scotus “Look we can go about this politely, or in the manner in which the Kavanaugh hearings were held with your goons smearing menstrual blood on the walls as security hauled them out.” “If the former, I will be polite, not do anything too radical in my rulings. If the latter, I’ll be having your kids be able to recite the constitution & bill of rights verbatim before they can get their drivers licenses.... I’ll declare every legal citizen over 18 a defender of America & given an M249 with unlimited ammo”. Also, here is video footage of Nolo’s argument.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 7:57:06 AM EDT
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It’s easy, you just give them an ultimatum. “Look we can go about this politely, or in the manner in which the Kavanaugh hearings were held with your goons smearing menstrual blood on the walls as security hauled them out.” “If the former, I will be polite, not do anything too radical in my rulings. If the latter, I’ll be having your kids be able to recite the constitution & bill of rights verbatim before they can get their drivers licenses.... I’ll declare every legal citizen over 18 a defender of America & given an M249 with unlimited ammo”. Also, here is video footage of Nolo’s argument.
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Nolo for scotus “Look we can go about this politely, or in the manner in which the Kavanaugh hearings were held with your goons smearing menstrual blood on the walls as security hauled them out.” “If the former, I will be polite, not do anything too radical in my rulings. If the latter, I’ll be having your kids be able to recite the constitution & bill of rights verbatim before they can get their drivers licenses.... I’ll declare every legal citizen over 18 a defender of America & given an M249 with unlimited ammo”. Also, here is video footage of Nolo’s argument.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWHJTvzC-Qo |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:03:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:30:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s easy, you just give them an ultimatum. “Look we can go about this politely, or in the manner in which the Kavanaugh hearings were held with your goons smearing menstrual blood on the walls as security hauled them out.” “If the former, I will be polite, not do anything too radical in my rulings. If the latter, I’ll be having your kids be able to recite the constitution & bill of rights verbatim before they can get their drivers licenses.... I’ll declare every legal citizen over 18 a defender of America & given an M249 with unlimited ammo”. Sounds like ringing the liberty bell to me. 
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Posted: 2/20/2019 8:58:38 AM EDT
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Thank you Nolo for fighting our fight for us. You have all of my support and encouragement.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:12:34 AM EDT
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Go Nolo.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:18:17 AM EDT
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Thanks for fighting the legal battle. Good luck.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 9:41:29 AM EDT
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To heck with dillos where can I buy my "GO NOLO" hat??
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:04:31 AM EDT
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What was the stunt Mr. Savage was referring to?
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:06:52 AM EDT
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To heck with dillos where can I buy my "GO NOLO" hat?? Like when I had my “free George Zimmerman” shirt made. 
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:08:56 AM EDT
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Lol. You think Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearing was bad? Whisky bottles on the table. no sips of water for you. Cola Warriors in the gallery. When RustedAce shows up to be questioned with a 2 liter bottle of Coke, and a basket of Peeps, FineSwine will never know what hit her. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:19:58 AM EDT
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I'm not rich Nolo but you can have my dog. Thank you.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:20:53 AM EDT
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God willing. And being that we are a free people, and God is willing, I too pray it is enough. Thank you Nolo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks Nolo! And being that we are a free people, and God is willing, I too pray it is enough. Thank you Nolo. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:22:15 AM EDT
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To heck with dillos where can I buy my "GO NOLO" hat?? Or is it send Nolo guns and money? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:32:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Send Nolo, guns, and money. Or is it send Nolo guns and money? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:34:19 AM EDT
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What was the stunt Mr. Savage was referring to? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:46:51 AM EDT
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What are all the arfcom bumpstock ban defenders going to say when NOLO wins?
Thanks, NOLO!!! Keep up the good fight! |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:49:37 AM EDT
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thanks nolo, still wish we could donate to your legal fees other than the dilos which are always sold out by the time i get the email I was able to get two of the Dillos and am more pleased with funding these efforts than my life NRA membership. I suspect there will be more opportunities in the future. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:50:03 AM EDT
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What’s fucked up about this is the communists/democrats will have an injunction for the Wall, on a case filed a couple days ago, while we will still be waiting for the “no injunction for you!” ruling.
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Posted: 2/20/2019 10:59:26 AM EDT
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 Leader - Motivational video |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 2:00:19 PM EDT
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What’s fucked up about this is the communists/democrats will have an injunction for the Wall, on a case filed a couple days ago, while we will still be waiting for the “no injunction for you!” ruling. 
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Posted: 2/20/2019 2:07:28 PM EDT
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Atf trying to divert my attention elsewhere. That's all I'll post about it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What was the stunt Mr. Savage was referring to? 
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Posted: 2/20/2019 3:01:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because it’s stupid. 
Effective tactics are not stupid, they are successful. It's all about winning. And the government lawyers have the luxury of playing a long game. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 3:03:28 PM EDT
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the gov arguments were that this is reasonable, bumpstocks are machineguns, we still don't know if rubber bands are okay. i said, rubber bands are blessed by atf in the final rule and showed them the "alternative 3" which said we could use rubber bands. i said the atf could accept tax payment on these devices if the atf final rule is upheld and they are machineguns. i said only congress has the legitimate authority to regulate this. i said that this should be a 2A case but for the courts not willing to extend 2A protection to MG. what else.... 3 lawyers versus me. i thought the odds were good. i think rubber band bumpstocks are even better than regular bumpstocks due to cost and i let the judge know that i brought in two "bump stock type devices' which the ATF blessed (rubber bands). i argued for a good bit. i'll get a transcript when available. the most interesting thing. the judge told the gov lawyers that if they plan to do anything with the new AG and ratification of the rule "you should do so sooner rather than later". Thanks NOLO! |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 3:31:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2019 4:08:42 PM EDT
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You buy plain cap, then find a local place to embroider it. Like when I had my “free George Zimmerman” shirt made. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To heck with dillos where can I buy my "GO NOLO" hat?? Like when I had my “free George Zimmerman” shirt made. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 4:27:06 PM EDT
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Effective tactics are not stupid, they are successful. It's all about winning. And the government lawyers have the luxury of playing a long game. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Effective tactics are not stupid, they are successful. It's all about winning. And the government lawyers have the luxury of playing a long game. |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 4:30:16 PM EDT
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Effective tactics are not stupid, they are successful. It's all about winning. And the government lawyers have the luxury of playing a long game. 
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