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Posted: 1/7/2021 10:46:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Hell no it isn't closed ! SpaceX has been bringing all sorts of heavy stuff into the compound over the past year , I think they are running out of room. The parking lot was nearly full yesterday , I haven't seen it that full since Musk's last visit some 2 or 3 months ago. There will never be a launch there as it is too close to residential enclaves , I doubt they could even fuel anything up there because of that reason. However , KSC is not far from there so they can transport anything built there for testing in probably an hour (at the speeds that rockets are delivered OTR). There is a development being assembled across the street from the compound and it's looking like they are assembling transporter jigs to haul the Starship out of there buy truck. There was activity there yesterday and never gave it much thought. Guess I'll get some pics of it over the next couple days , it's right across from a junkyard I frequent. I’ve seen a few articles in Texas legacy media basically complaining Boca Chica is disturbing wildlife and other BS reasons. The EPA is making SpaceX go back through one of their BS environmental validation studies since Boca Chica was only ever approved for construction and test/suborbital flights. Apparently orbital flights are so much worse. I’m concerned the powers that be are going to try and force SpaceX to play in the swamp with the usual .gov teat suckers like Boeing only in Florida. |
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Posted: 1/7/2021 10:59:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SpanishInquisition]
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Originally Posted By theskuh: thanks. Sorry so clueless. Was just looking on the Wikipedia He laid off all of the company due to covid. I thought they were out of the game basically. I was following their instagram and it looked like everything was poorly photoshopped so I thought they were mostly vaporware on the larger stuff. Hopefully starship will allow them to get some operational stations. No worries. Hell they flew 2 protptypes, too. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 9:17:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Hell no it isn't closed ! SpaceX has been bringing all sorts of heavy stuff into the compound over the past year , I think they are running out of room. The parking lot was nearly full yesterday , I haven't seen it that full since Musk's last visit some 2 or 3 months ago. There will never be a launch there as it is too close to residential enclaves , I doubt they could even fuel anything up there because of that reason. However , KSC is not far from there so they can transport anything built there for testing in probably an hour (at the speeds that rockets are delivered OTR). There is a development being assembled across the street from the compound and it's looking like they are assembling transporter jigs to haul the Starship out of there buy truck. There was activity there yesterday and never gave it much thought. Guess I'll get some pics of it over the next couple days , it's right across from a junkyard I frequent. Interesting, so would the section in the picture be SN18? They are up to 17 at Boca |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 9:32:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blue_Devil_JD: Interesting, so would the section in the picture be SN18? They are up to 17 at Boca Don't know. They have been messing around with it for at least 2 months. SWAG is they are using it to try out construction/fab/mechanical techniques. Couple of weeks ago that jig it is sitting in had all sorts of jets surrounding it and it looked like they were steaming it from every angle from top to bottom. Maybe a heat expansion test ? IDK. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 9:36:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blue_Devil_JD: Interesting, so would the section in the picture be SN18? They are up to 17 at Boca No. I believe that is a leftover hunk from MK1's sister ship. Originally they were building ships are both facilities. But I think the transport to launchpad issue killed it for coco. However, there are many many other things that need designed, prototypes, and produced to go into starship. The finished product will be a lot more than steel tanks and engines. Its been know that they have been working on a fuel generator for use on Mars at that facility. Wouldn't surprise me if they are working on life support and other complex tech there as well. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 9:37:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dagger41: Don't know. They have been messing around with it for at least 2 months. SWAG is they are using it to try out construction/fab/mechanical techniques. Couple of weeks ago that jig it is sitting in had all sorts of jets surrounding it and it looked like they were steaming it from every angle from top to bottom. Maybe a heat expansion test ? IDK. Interesting. Might be using it as an R&D site instead of a production site |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 9:45:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: burnka871]
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Any chance of sn9 flight today?
Eta nvm. Tfr for today was cancelled. Tfr on Monday 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/8/2021 9:46:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RhinelandArms]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By agBQ08: I’ve seen a few articles in Texas legacy media basically complaining Boca Chica is disturbing wildlife and other BS reasons. The EPA is making SpaceX go back through one of their BS environmental validation studies since Boca Chica was only ever approved for construction and test/suborbital flights. Apparently orbital flights are so much worse. I’m concerned the powers that be are going to try and force SpaceX to play in the swamp with the usual .gov teat suckers like Boeing only in Florida. I have been saying it since the elections. The new admin is going to go out of their way to try and destroy Space X. The Dems hate this kind of stuff for some reason...especially so if it takes place in TX. I think one reason why they are going so dam fast, is to beat any new admin changes at the fed level. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 9:52:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RhinelandArms: I have been saying it since the elections. The new admin is going to go out of their way to try and destroy Space X. The Dems hate this kind of stuff for some reason...especially so if it takes place in TX. I think one reason why they are going so dam fast, is to beat any new admin changes at the fed level. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RhinelandArms: Originally Posted By agBQ08: I’ve seen a few articles in Texas legacy media basically complaining Boca Chica is disturbing wildlife and other BS reasons. The EPA is making SpaceX go back through one of their BS environmental validation studies since Boca Chica was only ever approved for construction and test/suborbital flights. Apparently orbital flights are so much worse. I’m concerned the powers that be are going to try and force SpaceX to play in the swamp with the usual .gov teat suckers like Boeing only in Florida. I have been saying it since the elections. The new admin is going to go out of their way to try and destroy Space X. The Dems hate this kind of stuff for some reason...especially so if it takes place in TX. I think one reason why they are going so dam fast, is to beat any new admin changes at the fed level. Maybe it would be easier for Elon to move the operation south of the Rio Grande 
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Posted: 1/8/2021 9:52:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SGT-Fish: No. I believe that is a leftover hunk from MK1's sister ship. Originally they were building ships are both facilities. But I think the transport to launchpad issue killed it for coco. However, there are many many other things that need designed, prototypes, and produced to go into starship. The finished product will be a lot more than steel tanks and engines. Its been know that they have been working on a fuel generator for use on Mars at that facility. Wouldn't surprise me if they are working on life support and other complex tech there as well. The MK1 setups were scrapped. This mock up is the same size as the current model out at Boca Chica , much larger than the MK1's. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 10:38:45 AM EDT
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SpaceX is already planning to launch Starships from a floating platform "out in international waters".
Fuck the new administration. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 10:53:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RhinelandArms: The new admin is going to go out of their way to try and destroy Space X. The Dems hate this kind of stuff for some reason...especially so if it takes place in TX. One thing the dems like, is control. They haven't yet figured out a way to exert control over stuff leaving the atmosphere (they don't have anything to go after it and make arrests), so they don't like it. Same sort of stuff as the harsher communist countries trying to keep people from escaping the country, but they haven't gotten that blatant about it, yet. The possibility of setting up a permanent space station in orbit, a permanent base on the moon, or a permanent base on Mars (all privately owned), is like standing just outside their reach and flipping them off, dropping your pants to moon them, and pointing and laughing at them while doing it, because they can't even cancel the funding (like they do with NASA). |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 10:59:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JPN: One thing the dems like, is control. They haven't yet figured out a way to exert control over stuff leaving the atmosphere (they don't have anything to go after it and make arrests), so they don't like it. Same sort of stuff as the harsher communist countries trying to keep people from escaping the country, but they haven't gotten that blatant about it, yet. The possibility of setting up a permanent space station in orbit, a permanent base on the moon, or a permanent base on Mars (all privately owned), is like standing just outside their reach and flipping them off, dropping your pants to moon them, and pointing and laughing at them while doing it, because they can't even cancel the funding (like they do with NASA). They can shut down Starlink based on frivolous complaints filed by its competitors which will cut off a major funding source for Starship. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 11:27:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: They can shut down Starlink based on frivolous complaints filed by its competitors which will cut off a major funding source for Starship. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pavelow16478: Originally Posted By JPN: One thing the dems like, is control. They haven't yet figured out a way to exert control over stuff leaving the atmosphere (they don't have anything to go after it and make arrests), so they don't like it. Same sort of stuff as the harsher communist countries trying to keep people from escaping the country, but they haven't gotten that blatant about it, yet. The possibility of setting up a permanent space station in orbit, a permanent base on the moon, or a permanent base on Mars (all privately owned), is like standing just outside their reach and flipping them off, dropping your pants to moon them, and pointing and laughing at them while doing it, because they can't even cancel the funding (like they do with NASA). They can shut down Starlink based on frivolous complaints filed by its competitors which will cut off a major funding source for Starship. But that won't block the possibility of finding another funding source, and at some point, Starship can effectively become self-funding (paid for by payments from customers that want stuff in orbit). |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 11:50:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2021 11:51:21 AM EDT
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TFRs canceled for today & tomorrow.
New TFRs for Monday & Tuesday added. So launch could be Sunday-Tuesday. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 12:42:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By webtaz99: SpaceX is already planning to launch Starships from a floating platform "out in international waters". Fuck the new administration. it would probably be easier to pay off the Bahamian government to put a platform in their waters. It's very close to Florida and it's shallow and they are their own country. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 12:48:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: it would probably be easier to pay off the Bahamian government to put a platform in their waters. It's very close to Florida and it's shallow and they are their own country. I think they just announced a deal with Indonesia. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 1:42:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DK-Prof]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: it would probably be easier to pay off the Bahamian government to put a platform in their waters. It's very close to Florida and it's shallow and they are their own country. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: Originally Posted By webtaz99: SpaceX is already planning to launch Starships from a floating platform "out in international waters". Fuck the new administration. it would probably be easier to pay off the Bahamian government to put a platform in their waters. It's very close to Florida and it's shallow and they are their own country. As others have mentioned, as soon as a foreign nation is involved, all sorts of ITAR restrictions come into play. International waters may get around a lot of those issues. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 1:55:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RhinelandArms: The new admin is going to go out of their way to try and destroy Space X. Maybe not. Musk has more than enough cash to grease the right palms. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 1:58:42 PM EDT
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He overcame Jeff bezos in the billionaire category yesterday. Tesla stock exploded this year
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:12:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kill-9: Maybe not. Musk has more than enough cash to grease the right palms. Well... Musk is wealthy, but he's not liquid - at least not compared to his net worth. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:43:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kill-9: Maybe not. Musk has more than enough cash to grease the right palms. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kill-9: Originally Posted By RhinelandArms: The new admin is going to go out of their way to try and destroy Space X. Maybe not. Musk has more than enough cash to grease the right palms. I don't know. He's not a huge Trump supporter (I think) but he did say a lot of unkind things about socialism and communism lately on Twitter. They might break him as an example to others. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 2:51:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: Well... Musk is wealthy, but he's not liquid - at least not compared to his net worth. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: Originally Posted By kill-9: Maybe not. Musk has more than enough cash to grease the right palms. Well... Musk is wealthy, but he's not liquid - at least not compared to his net worth. I wonder at what point he's going to be tempted to start liquidating Tesla shares to fund his Mars ambitions. How do you not look at the current Tesla rally and not be tempted to take even just a few percent off the table while the getting is good. He could raise $10 Billion in no strings attached capital in the blink of an eye and nobody would even notice. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 4:04:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By woodsie: I wonder at what point he's going to be tempted to start liquidating Tesla shares to fund his Mars ambitions. How do you not look at the current Tesla rally and not be tempted to take even just a few percent off the table while the getting is good. He could raise $10 Billion in no strings attached capital in the blink of an eye and nobody would even notice. The SEC would notice... He is on their radar for sure, and has been for years. |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 5:40:30 PM EDT
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another static fire(s) happening today
 SCRUBBED: Starship SN9 Static Fire Test (attempt 2) |
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:31:39 PM EDT
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Looks like it was aborted.
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Posted: 1/8/2021 6:47:13 PM EDT
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SN15 with tiles
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:04:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hesperus: I don't know. He's not a huge Trump supporter (I think) but he did say a lot of unkind things about socialism and communism lately on Twitter. They might break him as an example to others. They'd be impervious to forest fires. That's important for charging Tesla's in remote places, or something. 
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Posted: 1/9/2021 12:48:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Musk should invest in some tungsten telephone poles. They'd be impervious to forest fires. That's important for charging Tesla's in remote places, or something. 16 Psyche probably has a quadrillion dollars worth of Tungsten in it
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955: Musk should invest in some tungsten telephone poles. They'd be impervious to forest fires. That's important for charging Tesla's in remote places, or something. And ship them both orbitally and sub-orbitally on Starship.  Ooops, sorry about those ones that landed on the DNC and Soros Open Society HQ's. Total freak of nature, what are the odds of that happening? |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 1:50:55 PM EDT
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Free delivery in 30 minutes or less, or the next one's free! Hell, we might just send another anyway!
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Posted: 1/9/2021 4:58:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/9/2021 5:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vmpglenn: The SEC would notice... He is on their radar for sure, and has been for years. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at this level, don't company officers typically file notice of intent to sell with the SEC any time they make large trades of stock in companies they are in any way related to? Not that the Feds can't say "Fine, go ahead" and then prosecute him for it later. The ATF does that shit all the time. The IRS used to, IIRC. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 5:10:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Correct me if I'm wrong, but at this level, don't company officers typically file notice of intent to sell with the SEC any time they make large trades of stock in companies they are in any way related to? Not that the Feds can't say "Fine, go ahead" and then prosecute him for it later. The ATF does that shit all the time. The IRS used to, IIRC. Musk would just do what other billionaires that have huge share stakes do if they want cash: borrow using their shares as collateral. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 5:28:07 PM EDT
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The tax return that he files just boggles my mind.
Must be like a set of old encyclopedias or larger. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 5:30:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: As others have mentioned, as soon as a foreign nation is involved, all sorts of ITAR restrictions come into play. International waters may get around a lot of those issues. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By midcap: Originally Posted By webtaz99: SpaceX is already planning to launch Starships from a floating platform "out in international waters". Fuck the new administration. it would probably be easier to pay off the Bahamian government to put a platform in their waters. It's very close to Florida and it's shallow and they are their own country. As others have mentioned, as soon as a foreign nation is involved, all sorts of ITAR restrictions come into play. International waters may get around a lot of those issues. Hmmm...that makes sense. international waters are pretty far off the coasts though I think. I wonder if it would make sense to launch out of Puerto Rico. |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 6:38:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJ_Dual: And ship them both orbitally and sub-orbitally on Starship. Ooops, sorry about those ones that landed on the DNC and Soros Open Society HQ's. Total freak of nature, what are the odds of that happening? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AJ_Dual: Originally Posted By JAG2955: Musk should invest in some tungsten telephone poles. They'd be impervious to forest fires. That's important for charging Tesla's in remote places, or something. And ship them both orbitally and sub-orbitally on Starship. Ooops, sorry about those ones that landed on the DNC and Soros Open Society HQ's. Total freak of nature, what are the odds of that happening? |
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Posted: 1/9/2021 7:21:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By midcap: Hmmm...that makes sense. international waters are pretty far off the coasts though I think. I wonder if it would make sense to launch out of Puerto Rico. 12 nautical miles. Most ocean fishing charters go that far out |
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Posted: 1/10/2021 7:12:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SGT-Fish: 12 nautical miles. Most ocean fishing charters go that far out Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SGT-Fish: Originally Posted By midcap: Hmmm...that makes sense. international waters are pretty far off the coasts though I think. I wonder if it would make sense to launch out of Puerto Rico. 12 nautical miles. Most ocean fishing charters go that far out it must be different off Florida. I fish much further than that offshore and it's still federal waters |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 1:18:09 PM EDT
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bad juju in Boca today
 
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Posted: 1/11/2021 2:12:04 PM EDT
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Scott Manley does a video on the Nuclear Salt Water Rocket
 The Nuclear Salt Water Rocket - Possibly the Craziest Rocket Engine Ever Imagined. NSWR has always been my favorite design, and probably the closest thing we could get to an Epstein-style Torchship |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 2:59:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: vmpglenn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Neotopiaman: Scott Manley does a video on the Nuclear Salt Water Rocket  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvZjhWE-3zMNSWR has always been my favorite design, and probably the closest thing we could get to an Epstein-style Torchship Yep, NSWR is gonzo tech for sure. It would be AWESOME to have a SpaceX Starship variant using NSWR for exoplanetary stuff. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 4:45:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
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Nevermind.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:03:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:09:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErfjeL4W4AII4i_?format=jpg&name=large As cool as that reads it's actually pretty fucking scary. GTFO of your house while we conduct a test that may destroy it ??? Doesn't fly with me. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:28:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: hdhogman]
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Yep.
Xiden will put a stop to this. I know they issue an alert before any test, but has there ever been one like this posted-announced? |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:31:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hdhogman: Yep. Xiden will put a stop to this. I know they issue an alert before any test, but has there ever been one like this posted-announced? Yes, it's standard for when they do test fires. |
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:39:17 PM EDT
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The country in Russia that launches space ships has a 98% literacy rate, highest in the world.
We get Texas.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:47:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CherokeeRose: The country in Russia that launches space ships has a 98% literacy rate, highest in the world. We get Texas. Texans are cocky just because, and they lower the neighborhood when they visit Colorado, plus they think that they are the biggest and best at everything, but they are still Americans and I will take them over commie communists any day. |
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