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Chokey King of Gifs Joined Oct 2001 Posts 61974 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 1/21/2019 8:23:48 PM EDT [#1] DJI SPARK climbs high and attempts to look into the starhopper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JruMb22duf0

Pavelow16478 Member Joined Dec 2005 Posts 7426 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 1/22/2019 10:00:18 PM EDT [#2] Elon Musk: Why I'm building the Starship out of stainless steel

SamuelAdams1776 Member Joined Jul 2014 Posts 15260 EE 0% (0) WA, USA	Posted: 1/23/2019 4:09:14 AM EDT [#3] When is the test launch? I wanna see it.

Pavelow16478 Member Joined Dec 2005 Posts 7436 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 1/23/2019 10:44:51 AM EDT [#4] Sounds like the upper section was tipped over and heavily damaged in an overnight storm Attached File

715700 Member Joined Aug 2004 Posts 36483 EE 0% (0) EST	Posted: 1/23/2019 10:57:46 AM EDT [#5] This is a diversion. Everyone is focused on his Art Deco sculpture so they don't see he's building a lunar lander some place in Iowa

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Posted: 1/23/2019 11:00:19 AM EDT

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Sounds like the upper section was tipped over and heavily damaged in an overnight storm

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I just heard. 50 mph winds broke the mooring blocks late last night & fairing was blown over. Will take a few weeks to repair.
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Posted: 1/23/2019 9:09:34 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
Sea Dragon is cool, but BFR/Starship will easily beat it on economics because it is fully re-usable. Fuel is cheap, aerospace equipment is expensive (EDIT: fucking ARFcom keeps auto deleting what I try to write here)

With BFR/Starship you should be capable of >100 tonnes to orbit for <$10 million.

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Originally Posted By LTCetme:
If you like that check out The sea dragon .

Super heavy rocket designed for heavy lift economy. It was designed to be launched partially submerged vertical. The saturn V second stage would fit in the nozzle.

Sea Dragon is cool, but BFR/Starship will easily beat it on economics because it is fully re-usable. Fuel is cheap, aerospace equipment is expensive (EDIT: fucking ARFcom keeps auto deleting what I try to write here)

With BFR/Starship you should be capable of >100 tonnes to orbit for <$10 million.

We talking LEO or geosynchronous?

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WHY do celebrities think we care what philosophical or political opinions they have?
We don't pay them for who they really are.....

Neotopiaman Joined Jul 2017 Posts 5357 EE 0% (0) NH, USA	Posted: 1/23/2019 9:11:06 PM EDT [#12] Quote History Originally Posted By MCSquared: We talking LEO or geosynchronous? View Quote 100+ tonnes to LEO, ~20 tonnes to GTO, (100+ with one refueling)

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Posted: 1/23/2019 9:29:02 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
SpaceX uses quick iteration and fast failure, which is the same process that got us from rockets being large fireworks displays to less than ten years later walking on the moon.

Oldspace is paralysis by analysis, which is why it has taken a decade to design/build a rocket from shuttle hand-me-downs.

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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Fucking amazing the speed that Spacex is moving.

SpaceX uses quick iteration and fast failure, which is the same process that got us from rockets being large fireworks displays to less than ten years later walking on the moon.

Oldspace is paralysis by analysis, which is why it has taken a decade to design/build a rocket from shuttle hand-me-downs.

The destruction of the American space program was deliberate, with Bathhouse Barry shutting down the shuttle program being the Coup de grâce, or so they though.

Originally Posted By justsayin:
WHY do celebrities think we care what philosophical or political opinions they have?
We don't pay them for who they really are.....

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Posted: 1/23/2019 9:53:08 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:
100+ tonnes to LEO, ~20 tonnes to GTO, (100+ with one refueling)

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Originally Posted By MCSquared:

We talking LEO or geosynchronous?

100+ tonnes to LEO, ~20 tonnes to GTO, (100+ with one refueling)

Awesome, thanks!

Maybe it'll be cheaper to get some "five and dime" satellites into GTO now.

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WHY do celebrities think we care what philosophical or political opinions they have?
We don't pay them for who they really are.....

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Posted: 1/23/2019 10:01:35 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By MCSquared:
The destruction of the American space program was deliberate, with Bathhouse Barry shutting down the shuttle program being the Coup de grce, or so they though.

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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:

Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Fucking amazing the speed that Spacex is moving.

SpaceX uses quick iteration and fast failure, which is the same process that got us from rockets being large fireworks displays to less than ten years later walking on the moon.

Oldspace is paralysis by analysis, which is why it has taken a decade to design/build a rocket from shuttle hand-me-downs.

The destruction of the American space program was deliberate, with Bathhouse Barry shutting down the shuttle program being the Coup de grce, or so they though.

Absolutely...for maw social justice!

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Posted: 1/23/2019 10:04:27 PM EDT

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The destruction of the American space program was deliberate, with Bathhouse Barry shutting down the shuttle program being the Coup de grâce, or so they though.

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Killing the Space Shuttle is ironically the FIRST thing that someone who was serious about SAVING the US space program would have done too.

Although the downside is that NASA and the ULA companies have been busy applying Shuttle style bureaucracy and waste to what ought to be "simpler" traditional rockets with Constellation/SLS/Orion. Although not having realistic funding levels doesn't help.

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SamuelAdams1776 Member Joined Jul 2014 Posts 15266 EE 0% (0) WA, USA	Posted: 1/25/2019 12:06:00 AM EDT [#18] That blows. I was going to drive there to see it.

Chokey King of Gifs Joined Oct 2001 Posts 62065 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 1/25/2019 9:59:59 PM EDT [#19] another webcam https://www.spadre.com/ STARSHIP CAM - SpaceX Boca Chica Texas Live View of Starship Hopper Launches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7zia2HqOOc

Variable556 INGSOC JBT Joined May 2004 Posts 5077 EE 100% (6) WV, USA	Posted: 1/27/2019 11:59:28 AM EDT [#20] SpaceX Boca Chica Launch Pad and Starship Construction Progress 1/25/19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3-L01yOQy8
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madmathew Member Joined Oct 2006 Posts 31890 EE 100% (7) MI, USA	Posted: 1/27/2019 12:02:58 PM EDT [#21] Quote History Originally Posted By Neotopiaman: Boca Chica View Quote I'll be down by there next month, I'm hoping we will be able to see it.

Pavelow16478 Member Joined Dec 2005 Posts 7469 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 2/1/2019 8:25:07 AM EDT [#22] Preparing to fire the Starship Raptor engine at @SpaceX Texas pic.twitter.com/8JCOi1BG6z Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 1, 2019 Attached File Attached File Raptor compared to the Merlin Attached File

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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:51:21 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:
Killing the Space Shuttle is ironically the FIRST thing that someone who was serious about SAVING the US space program would have done too.

Although the downside is that NASA and the ULA companies have been busy applying Shuttle style bureaucracy and waste to what ought to be "simpler" traditional rockets with Constellation/SLS/Orion. Although not having realistic funding levels doesn't help.

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Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:

Originally Posted By MCSquared:

The destruction of the American space program was deliberate, with Bathhouse Barry shutting down the shuttle program being the Coup de grâce, or so they though.

Killing the Space Shuttle is ironically the FIRST thing that someone who was serious about SAVING the US space program would have done too.

Although the downside is that NASA and the ULA companies have been busy applying Shuttle style bureaucracy and waste to what ought to be "simpler" traditional rockets with Constellation/SLS/Orion. Although not having realistic funding levels doesn't help.

So you're saying cutting the space shuttle allowed them to use that money on our next space system. Very simple concept with a tiny NASA budget.

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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:58:21 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

Preparing to fire the Starship Raptor engine at @SpaceX Texas pic.twitter.com/8JCOi1BG6z
Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 1, 2019

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Raptor compared to the Merlin

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Awesome

Also, OST

Chokey King of Gifs Joined Oct 2001 Posts 62292 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 2/3/2019 10:30:43 PM EDT [#25] We have a (brief) test fire!!! Only caught the audio @Erdayastronaut @johnkrausphotos pic.twitter.com/vdgzcznOf4 B.J. Jordan (@WJordanIV) February 4, 2019

Chokey King of Gifs Joined Oct 2001 Posts 62297 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 2/4/2019 12:09:30 AM EDT [#26] First firing of Starship Raptor flight engine! So proud of great work by @SpaceX team!! pic.twitter.com/S6aT7Jih4S Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 4, 2019 couple of quick videos pic.twitter.com/ChEGbjTGKZ Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 4, 2019 pic.twitter.com/yFhNx3fiOD Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 4, 2019

Chokey King of Gifs Joined Oct 2001 Posts 62320 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 2/5/2019 10:00:59 PM EDT [#27] DJI Spark Fly by SpaceX Launch Pad Brownsville Tx https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_ZHy0v9rxs

Pavelow16478 Member Joined Dec 2005 Posts 7539 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 2/11/2019 9:01:56 AM EDT [#28] Meanwhile in Boca Chica..... COPVs heading into the Starship Hopper via the opening at the top. Photos NSF's BocaChicaGal:https://t.co/TcNlGhneID pic.twitter.com/3mo58tXout Chris B - NSF (@NASASpaceflight) February 10, 2019 Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File

Chokey King of Gifs Joined Oct 2001 Posts 62780 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 2/24/2019 8:11:36 PM EDT [#29] some new pics, starting to rebuild the top half

Variable556 INGSOC JBT Joined May 2004 Posts 5154 EE 100% (6) WV, USA	Posted: 2/25/2019 9:46:42 PM EDT [#30] Thanks Chokey I was searching a couple days ago (and also trying to see via the South Beach live cam), but I couldn’t find anything. Good update.
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Chokey King of Gifs Joined Oct 2001 Posts 62796 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 2/25/2019 9:52:39 PM EDT [#31] a few more pics

Tolip Member Joined Sep 2005 Posts 14644 EE 100% (11) USA	Posted: 2/25/2019 10:21:36 PM EDT [#32] It seems so bulky

OFFascist Member Joined Jun 2004 Posts 11132 EE 100% (1) TX, USA	Posted: 2/25/2019 11:04:03 PM EDT [#33] Looks like SpaceX is hiring for a few positions in Brownsville. https://www.spacex.com/careers/list?location%5B%5D=1356 Environmental Health & Safety Specialist Security Officer - Level 2 Security Officer - Level 3 Build Engineer (Starship) Supervisor, Tank Fabrication Tank Fabricator/Welder View Quote
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Chokey King of Gifs Joined Oct 2001 Posts 62957 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 3/8/2019 12:53:15 PM EDT [#34] MOVIN' DAY!! #StarHopper is slowly making her way down Hwy 4 onna SPMT (self propelled module transporter) to the Hopper Test Pad area this morning. #SpaceX (\uD83D\uDCF7 credit: Maria Pointer) pic.twitter.com/Lp6pD59MSl Cowboy Dan (@CowboyDanPaasch) March 8, 2019

Chokey King of Gifs Joined Oct 2001 Posts 62958 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 3/8/2019 12:53:57 PM EDT [#35] videos here: https://www.facebook.com/maria.pointer/posts/2147432611989999

Pavelow16478 Member Joined Dec 2005 Posts 7640 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 3/8/2019 9:01:18 PM EDT [#36] Raptor on way to Hopper. Will be mounted to vehicle next week. Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 8, 2019

Chokey King of Gifs Joined Oct 2001 Posts 62970 EE 0% (0) OH, USA	Posted: 3/8/2019 10:29:40 PM EDT [#37] on the launch pad

Plumber576 Member Joined Apr 2005 Posts 10189 EE 100% (8) OH, USA	Posted: 3/8/2019 10:55:47 PM EDT [#38] Quote History Originally Posted By Chokey: on the launch pad https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1LpLR0XcAINTSs.jpg View Quote Isn't that pretty small for a launch pad when compared to their McGregor, TX launch pad? Or maybe it's just that it's a bigger rocket. Grasshopper 744m Test \| Single Camera (Hexacopter) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDkItO-0a4

FlyingIllini Joined Feb 2008 Posts 6545 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 3/8/2019 11:02:00 PM EDT [#39] I've seen some more pics internally, looks cool.

Pavelow16478 Member Joined Dec 2005 Posts 7650 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 3/11/2019 11:36:36 AM EDT [#40] Nobody panic, but a Raptor has been spotted in Boca Chica! \uD83D\uDE32\uD83D\uDC4D \uD83D\uDCF8NSF's @BocaChicaGal https://t.co/U2gq7H4w6q pic.twitter.com/b0XqoCyxoZ Chris B - NSF (@NASASpaceflight) March 11, 2019 Attached File

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Originally Posted By Pavelow16478:

Nobody panic, but a Raptor has been spotted in Boca Chica! \uD83D\uDE32\uD83D\uDC4D

\uD83D\uDCF8NSF's @BocaChicaGal https://t.co/U2gq7H4w6q pic.twitter.com/b0XqoCyxoZ
Chris B - NSF (@NASASpaceflight) March 11, 2019

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New angle... Can get a nice view of the Methane/fuel rich turbopump assembly.

Poor Russia, now with Raptor it's just one more thing that SpaceX has beat them at.

It's also amazing that SpaceX can likely build that engine for less than Aerojet-Rocketdyne can build an RL-10....

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Neotopiaman Joined Jul 2017 Posts 5765 EE 0% (0) NH, USA	Posted: 3/11/2019 11:47:11 AM EDT [#43] Quote History Originally Posted By Chokey: videos here: https://www.facebook.com/maria.pointer/posts/2147432611989999 View Quote The video of it moving around makes it look like a giant R2-D2 if you speed it up...

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Posted: 3/11/2019 11:47:37 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:

New angle... Can get a nice view of the Methane/fuel rich turbopump assembly.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Raptor_Engine_Unofficial_Combustion_Scheme.svg/800px-Raptor_Engine_Unofficial_Combustion_Scheme.svg.png

Poor Russia, now with Raptor it's just one more thing that SpaceX has beat them at.

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83,000 hp in those turbopumps

Neotopiaman Joined Jul 2017 Posts 5766 EE 0% (0) NH, USA	Posted: 3/11/2019 11:51:47 AM EDT [Last Edit: Neotopiaman] [#45] Quote History Originally Posted By Pavelow16478: 83,000 hp in those turbopumps View Quote The eventually 250 tonne thrust version will have over 100,000 hp IIRC. Thrust power is about 4,000,000 hp

Pavelow16478 Member Joined Dec 2005 Posts 7652 EE 100% (34) USA	Posted: 3/11/2019 11:57:52 AM EDT [#46] Quote History Originally Posted By Neotopiaman: The eventually 250 tonne thrust version will have over 100,000 hp IIRC. Thrust power is about 4,000,000 hp https://rlv.zcache.com/because_merica_thats_why_us_flag_poster_large-r2c264e06b0d44424a0a8109ee782dbd5_2us63_8byvr_540.jpg View Quote Now imagine 31 of those at liftoff

madmathew Member Joined Oct 2006 Posts 32377 EE 100% (7) MI, USA	Posted: 3/11/2019 11:59:22 AM EDT [#47] I just drove by here a couple weeks ago, I'll post some pics when I get home.

Variable556 INGSOC JBT Joined May 2004 Posts 5247 EE 100% (6) WV, USA	Posted: 3/11/2019 7:08:41 PM EDT [#48] I keep trying to see stuff on Starship Cam, but that place seems to get a lot of fog. Attached File I keep expecting King Kong or a T Rex to pop out.
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Posted: 3/11/2019 7:19:25 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:

Sea Dragon is cool, but BFR/Starship will easily beat it on economics because it is fully re-usable. Fuel is cheap, aerospace equipment is expensive (EDIT: fucking ARFcom keeps auto deleting what I try to write here)

With BFR/Starship you should be capable of >100 tonnes to orbit for <$10 million.

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That would enable us to build things in space that we wouldn't be able to launch. Like a space station capable of supporting missions to Mars and maybe even a moon base.

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Posted: 3/11/2019 7:35:44 PM EDT

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That would enable us to build things in space that we wouldn't be able to launch. Like a space station capable of supporting missions to Mars and maybe even a moon base.

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Originally Posted By ludder093:

Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:

Sea Dragon is cool, but BFR/Starship will easily beat it on economics because it is fully re-usable. Fuel is cheap, aerospace equipment is expensive (EDIT: fucking ARFcom keeps auto deleting what I try to write here)

With BFR/Starship you should be capable of >100 tonnes to orbit for <$10 million.

That would enable us to build things in space that we wouldn't be able to launch. Like a space station capable of supporting missions to Mars and maybe even a moon base.

Yeah, I hadn’t thought out those numbers. That equals about $45 per pound, into orbit... Holy shit.

If accurate and successful, that’d enable a whole lotta shit to start happening. A pretty staggering concept to envision where that could lead.

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