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Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:00:24 AM EDT
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What does it matter?  Nobody is going to fo and the 2A is literally a paper tiger.  It sucks losing a hobby, but thats all it is.  As soon as we quit lying to ourselves we can figure out a viable path for taking the country back.  Guns have been nothing more than a pacifier for the Right.
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Holy fuck at this fucking thread.

But muh bumpstock.
Just wait til your saying "But muh ar15".
What does it matter?  Nobody is going to fo and the 2A is literally a paper tiger.  It sucks losing a hobby, but thats all it is.  As soon as we quit lying to ourselves we can figure out a viable path for taking the country back.  Guns have been nothing more than a pacifier for the Right.
I'm waiting on a militia to be called so we can get some use out of the 2A. Do the words mean something or not?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:01:00 AM EDT
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Over the last 6 months I went from red hat MAGA wearing Trump train, to 'ill vote against the democrats'.

2 years of a Republican president, senate and house and we couldn't pass ONE single fucking firearms bill to finally get on the offensive instead of playing the 'please dont ban this' fuck fuck game. Hell, we couldn't even fucking overturn obamacare. Oh, and where's that wall? And why are fucking mexicans not fucking deathly afraid of being on US soil?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:07:12 AM EDT
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JFC.  

Edited to add that BHO and his Democratic friends in D.C. were balls to the wall for ACA, so as much as BHO hates guns, his priority was government forced healthcare.
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DJT could have reversed that by now, but he hasn't

because he's a dirty dem

also, i hate NICS but it doesn't lie

Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:08:02 AM EDT
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No, but if it’s him vs some nutty dem I’ll vote for him again-I’d like to see his damn Twitter account taken away, hard to take a tweeter seriously
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:08:54 AM EDT
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Favorable

Compared to the last few Presidents he's been great (so far)

If he doesn't pull any amnesty shenanigans or start some retarded war he'll be better than Reagan

As for the rest of the Republicans they have been a massive disappointment
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:09:10 AM EDT
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he's a media president and a great example of what's wrong with our celebrity-worshipping culture

really hoping that we can get an actual GOP  fucking CONSERVATIVE candidate into office
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there is a HUGE difference this century
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:12:55 AM EDT
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definitely - both parties have changed for the worst

i'm not a proponent of partisanship, but i really like candidates who can actually read the constitution
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:14:05 AM EDT
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I just watched a movie the other night that I remember the original event well, it was called do you believe in miracles..  Yup the story of where we finally beat the fucking soviet union, the coach was a cock sucker and he was a negative person, who used that to rally his team to beat the best in the world and show us as a country we could do it.

If you were not alive then, you will never understand the meaning of beating the soviets in that Olympic games, it gave us hope again, that we were pertinent, that we as a country were still the best and coming out of Vietnam a lot of people didn't believe that anymore.

I am starting to wonder if Trump is that asshole coach that is using negative to get us off our ass as a people and fight again, we have laid down to damn long to the democrats and the rinos.

I will fight tooth and nail upto including my blood for what I believe in, but many like to bitch and don't do anything, many have the attitude it does not matter what we do, when it really does matter, we the people need to fight, every single one of us, if we fight harder or if we had fought harder, things might be a little more clear cut now a days.

But in my life, I have seen us go from the strongest fighting nation in the world, to starting down the road to a third world shit hole.

Pull your fucking pants up and start fighting, instead of bitching.

Your children and grand children are depending on us.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:17:21 AM EDT
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Opinion of Trump has taken a massive nose dive.

Fuck 'em.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:18:31 AM EDT
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Over the last 6 months I went from red hat MAGA wearing Trump train, to 'ill vote against the democrats'.

2 years of a Republican president, senate and house and we couldn't pass ONE single fucking firearms bill to finally get on the offensive instead of playing the 'please dont ban this' fuck fuck game. Hell, we couldn't even fucking overturn obamacare. Oh, and where's that wall? And why are fucking mexicans not fucking deathly afraid of being on US soil?
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That's how we got the kenyan in '08
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:18:48 AM EDT
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Obama was better for 2a. Trump has been a disaster.

Trump' s torn apart admin agencies and packed the courts with conservatives judges. However he also lit liberals on fire and moved places like Florida and the pacfic northwest to the left. He did get the tax bill through and scared the crap out of NK
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No. He Didn't. It was already the left coast. nothing changed.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:20:03 AM EDT
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Being trumptarded on the train and plugging your nose as you vote will deliver the same results on election day.
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If you vited unfavorable,  you are fighting the wrong battle.  The Democrats thank you though.
Being trumptarded on the train and plugging your nose as you vote will deliver the same results on election day.
You’re right, refusing to vote and helping to elect Democrats which will result in Socialism For All and guaranteed widespread gun bans will be so much better.

Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:21:23 AM EDT
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I'm waiting on a militia to be called so we can get some use out of the 2A. Do the words mean something or not?
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Holy fuck at this fucking thread.

But muh bumpstock.
Just wait til your saying "But muh ar15".
What does it matter?  Nobody is going to fo and the 2A is literally a paper tiger.  It sucks losing a hobby, but thats all it is.  As soon as we quit lying to ourselves we can figure out a viable path for taking the country back.  Guns have been nothing more than a pacifier for the Right.
I'm waiting on a militia to be called so we can get some use out of the 2A. Do the words mean something or not?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:23:17 AM EDT
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You’re right, refusing to vote and helping to elect Democrats which will result in Socialism For All and guaranteed widespread gun bans will be so much better.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hEOgAiye6vU/Uj2-xSOnvTI/AAAAAAAAHL4/FSQqis6tNCI/s1600/The_Stupid__It_Burns_by_Plognark.png
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Accelerationism. How does it work?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:23:46 AM EDT
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I do not have a favorable opinion of President Trump, and I never really did. I was a Cruz guy. When Trump won the nomination, I got on the Trump Train because any Republican was preferable to a Clinton, particularly the banshee Hillary. My three main issues were immigration, the 2A, and Supreme Court justices, to protect the 2A. I believe Trump has tried in some ways to address immigration, but I’m not impressed with the results. Then there is the 2A; on this matter Trump has been a bitter disappointment. Worse actually, he’s been a near disaster.

Will I vote for Trump again? Probably not. I live in California, my vote won’t matter anyway, it’ll be lost in a sea of leftist votes by illegals. I voted for Trump on principle in 2016. Since it won’t matter anyway, I probably won’t bother in 2020. If I lived in a red or purple state, I damn sure would vote for him again.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:26:24 AM EDT
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Accelerationism. How does it work?
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You’re right, refusing to vote and helping to elect Democrats which will result in Socialism For All and guaranteed widespread gun bans will be so much better.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hEOgAiye6vU/Uj2-xSOnvTI/AAAAAAAAHL4/FSQqis6tNCI/s1600/The_Stupid__It_Burns_by_Plognark.png
Accelerationism. How does it work?
You ram your face into a wall as hard as you can, realize you just killed a few of the dozen brain cells you had left, then continue unabated.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:28:29 AM EDT
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I had to leave the oil field under Obama then end up at the DoD under Trump. Ever since I left the .mil shit gets worse every year. Fuck everyone.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:29:12 AM EDT
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When a legislative session coming up in your state, you need to be the one talking at the podium, not the guy in the gallery with a gun and a plaid shirt on, you need to speak your piece, just like the orange shirted ladies in Mother Demand Action, we need to Demand Action for our civil rights.  Unfortunately to many have fallen in the trap, "I can't make a difference"  Well yes you CAN make a difference, stop bitching on social media and get out there in droves and start talking in a civil tone on why it is important to you.

Be active in your communities, your cities and your states, fuck DC, this is a grass roots situation that has to start on the ladder.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:30:02 AM EDT
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Trump 2020!
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You ram your face into a wall as hard as you can, realize you just killed a few of the dozen brain cells you had left, then continue unabated.
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Afraid not
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:35:23 AM EDT
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Let's give credit where credit is due. The NRA is responsible for the bumpstock ban.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:35:42 AM EDT
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I do not have a favorable opinion of President Trump, and I never really did. I was a Cruz guy. When Trump won the nomination, I got on the Trump Train because any Republican was preferable to a Clinton, particularly the banshee Hillary. My three main issues were immigration, the 2A, and Supreme Court justices, to protect the 2A. I believe Trump has tried in some ways to address immigration, but I’m not impressed with the results. Then there is the 2A; on this matter Trump has been a bitter disappointment. Worse actually, he’s been a near disaster.

Will I vote for Trump again? Probably not. I live in California, my vote won’t matter anyway, it’ll be lost in a sea of leftist votes by illegals. I voted for Trump on principle in 2016. Since it won’t matter anyway, I probably won’t bother in 2020. If I lived in a red or purple state, I damn sure would vote for him again.
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It is really important to continue to go. Winning the popular vote confers a legitimacy in the minds of the electorate that the Electoral College has a hard time matching.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:36:57 AM EDT
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Almost 40% disapproval on one of the most conservative websites around........that’s not good. Doesn’t bode well for 2020.

None of these idiots understand that to win means to stand up for our principles. Stop giving in to liberals. They only see compromise as weakness. And it won’t sway a single liberal into voting for them. WTF is Trump doing?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:36:59 AM EDT
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Opinion of Trump has taken a massive nose dive.

Fuck 'em.
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Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:39:49 AM EDT
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Just wait til your saying "But muh ar15".
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Don't worry, I won't. Most here will though.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:39:53 AM EDT
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I just watched a movie the other night that I remember the original event well, it was called do you believe in miracles..  Yup the story of where we finally beat the fucking soviet union, the coach was a cock sucker and he was a negative person, who used that to rally his team to beat the best in the world and show us as a country we could do it.

If you were not alive then, you will never understand the meaning of beating the soviets in that Olympic games, it gave us hope again, that we were pertinent, that we as a country were still the best and coming out of Vietnam a lot of people didn't believe that anymore.

I am starting to wonder if Trump is that asshole coach that is using negative to get us off our ass as a people and fight again, we have laid down to damn long to the democrats and the rinos.

I will fight tooth and nail upto including my blood for what I believe in, but many like to bitch and don't do anything, many have the attitude it does not matter what we do, when it really does matter, we the people need to fight, every single one of us, if we fight harder or if we had fought harder, things might be a little more clear cut now a days.

But in my life, I have seen us go from the strongest fighting nation in the world, to starting down the road to a third world shit hole.

Pull your fucking pants up and start fighting, instead of bitching.

Your children and grand children are depending on us.
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I got nothin
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:42:16 AM EDT
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What does it matter?  Nobody is going to fo and the 2A is literally a paper tiger.  It sucks losing a hobby, but thats all it is.  As soon as we quit lying to ourselves we can figure out a viable path for taking the country back.  Guns have been nothing more than a pacifier for the Right.
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I wouldn't say no one will fo, but what I know for certain is when that patriot does fo he will be ripped apart mercilessly here.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:42:20 AM EDT
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I am still 100% happy that I voted for him.
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Me too, so far.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:44:08 AM EDT
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I wouldn't say no one will fo, but what I know for certain is when that patriot does fo he will be ripped apart mercilessly here.
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Truth.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:46:04 AM EDT
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If "forked tounge" is favorable, then yeah, sure.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:46:33 AM EDT
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I wouldn't say no one will fo, but what I know for certain is when that patriot does fo he will be ripped apart mercilessly here.
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Yes, everyone will turn on him and go back to their gay ass Netflix shows and "history" channel.

How far is far enough? Yellow vests in the street? Chucking crowbars into the power substations? Pink hats?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:47:42 AM EDT
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Positive before today. After today, negative. He is looking to be a pussy and a coward.
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Just wait til your saying "But muh ar15".
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Was going to post this.

That guy is is part of the problem.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 1:53:39 AM EDT
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Almost 40% disapproval on one of the most conservative websites around........that’s not good. Doesn’t bode well for 2020.

None of these idiots understand that to win means to stand up for our principles. Stop giving in to liberals. They only see compromise as weakness. And it won’t sway a single liberal into voting for them. WTF is Trump doing?
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He really did not know how to legislate and lacked the infrastructure in Congress to get billboard level conservative legislation passed. I firmly believe that there was a broad assumption among House Republicans that Trump was, in fact, guilty of collusion. This led them to avoid public association for the first year of his Presidency. His second failure was assuming that the inclusion of party stalwarts, such as Priebus and Spicer, would garner party support during the period. He also assumed that after years of donations he could get some kind of concession from the Democrats. He continues to believe that he can present them with a legislative compromise that will meet their approval

Trump's other problem was a failure to understand what a great reaction the political class would have towards his election on both sides of the aisle. He is the example for the other donor class billionaires that might wish to enter electoral politics. This is a message to Bloomberg and Steyer. The message is don't go to far in or we will cut you off at the knees.

Finally, there is a broad problem among the Republican party that can best be described as McCainitis. Lots of GOP incumbents believe that running against Trump can only help them in the media and that this will later translate to broader electoral success. Frankly, this weakness often cripples the legislative efforts of the party.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:07:55 AM EDT
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What does it matter?  Nobody is going to fo and the 2A is literally a paper tiger.  It sucks losing a hobby, but thats all it is.  As soon as we quit lying to ourselves we can figure out a viable path for taking the country back.  Guns have been nothing more than a pacifier for the Right.
I wouldn't say no one will fo, but what I know for certain is when that patriot does fo he will be ripped apart mercilessly here.
Truth.

There may be “resistance”, but it’ll be small pockets of very few individuals. And they’ll be painted as extreme right wing wackos, with nearly everyone here nodding in agreement. The loudest chest thumpers will be cowering in fear and furiously deleting any past posts that might seem to ally with the individuals in question.

The folks here who think they’re going to join up with thousands of patriots are as delusional and deluded as the leftists who believed the gov was going to be rounding teh gheys up in cattle cars bound for internment camps when Trump won, maybe more so.

I hope I’m wrong, but I seriously, seriously doubt it.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:11:14 AM EDT
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He really did not know how to legislate and lacked the infrastructure in Congress to get billboard level conservative legislation passed. I firmly believe that there was a broad assumption among House Republicans that Trump was, in fact, guilty of collusion. This led them to avoid public association for the first year of his Presidency. His second failure was assuming that the inclusion of party stalwarts, such as Priebus and Spicer, would garner party support during the period. He also assumed that after years of donations he could get some kind of concession from the Democrats. He continues to believe that he can present them with a legislative compromise that will meet their approval

Trump's other problem was a failure to understand what a great reaction the political class would have towards his election on both sides of the aisle. He is the example for the other donor class billionaires that might wish to enter electoral politics. This is a message to Bloomberg and Steyer. The message is don't go to far in or we will cut you off at the knees.

Finally, there is a broad problem among the Republican party that can best be described as McCainitis. Lots of GOP incumbents believe that running against Trump can only help them in the media and that this will later translate to broader electoral success. Frankly, this weakness often cripples the legislative efforts of the party.
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He said all that stuff during the campaign
Then won
Then wanted to start doing what he said
Then R's said "Oh shit, he really meant it! "
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:14:21 AM EDT
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Favorable is how I voted. Keep in mind Trump has been under relentless assault from the communists in this country since he was elected.

Is he perfect? Of course not. President Trump has accomplished a lot of good things in two years so keep that in mind.
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He’s a Yankee. What can you expect?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:16:14 AM EDT
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An extremely unconventional candidate at just the right time.  He was the best choice we had and I don't think that theoretically "better" choices like Cruz or Paul would've stood a chance against Hillary.  Barring some extremely dramatic turn of events I will never regret voting for him.  I'm disappointed in stuff like the bump stock ban but I expected it so I'm not at all surprised.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:19:09 AM EDT
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I'm sure how I feel about him, and its neither favorable or unfavorable.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:21:28 AM EDT
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He put an end to the eight year assault on our 2nd Amendment rights.
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you were a nevertrumper before the general, and you'll never change trying to make him look bad, so why don't you just come out and start pushing for someone else to be elected?
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Poll inbound.

My opinion of him is overall unfavorable due to the bumpstock bullshit. We'll get nothing from it, lose bumpstocks, and they'll hunger for more.
you were a nevertrumper before the general, and you'll never change trying to make him look bad, so why don't you just come out and start pushing for someone else to be elected?
I'll be pushing for myself, number one, because I have a very big brain, and I've said a lot of things.
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My support is starting to waiver. Not gonna lie...
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this, I had high hopes for the man, but the turn against the second, and the inability to build a wall...which is not his fault in entirety......but he is flagging on all fronts that he was elected on...... still better than hill dog though.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:24:31 AM EDT
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Do you have the best words?
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:25:42 AM EDT
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I'm waiting on a militia to be called so we can get some use out of the 2A. Do the words mean something or not?
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get on your horse and start riding, see if it does any good.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:29:08 AM EDT
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this, and as little as I have thought of them in the past the GOA is fighting, guess where my money is going in the future.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:35:07 AM EDT
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My MAGA is fading...
He’s done absolutely nothing for the 2A and has in fact hurt it with anti gun concessions which will hurt we’ll beyond the current issue itself, he’s gotten nothing done on the wall and has actually signed into law budgets that not only don’t give him money for the wall but specifically forbid him to spend any money on it, he’s allowed the corrupt left to avoid any accountability while allowing them to undermine him continually, he has yearly deficits rivaling and in some cases exceeding Obama’s, his choices for cabinets positions have been a train wreck with Sessions being the single worst choice ever, kept people on from the  prior administration way too long (Comey, Rosenstein, etc), and now once again is capitulating in the wall.

I want to still believe in Trump but he’s now left me little to no room for doing so. If there is no wall and forward progress on the 2A before 2020 my bet is he is done...
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 2:35:17 AM EDT
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Not hillary. If the vote was today I’d vote for him absolutely.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 3:02:59 AM EDT
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Not anymore.  We elected him to NOT be a typical RINO giving the Dems what they want at every turn.  He's turned out to be just another big-promising, lying politician.  I can understand not being able to accomplish what you set out to do.  I CANNOT understand or forgive flat-out caving, or in the case of bump stocks, being the one to DRIVE the loss of freedom.  He promised us gains for the 2A, and while many (most?) of us took that with a grain of salt, we all expected at the least it wouldn't get worse, because literally all he had to do to accomplish that was NOTHING.

Trump is now just another example of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
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ZFG, I'm off the train now.
Let it all burn.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 4:01:47 AM EDT
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Trump was never really my guy, but after Paul dropped out and Trump won every precinct in SC I saw the writing on the wall and got on the Trump train.

Honestly he's been way better than I expected up until today. I was actually pretty surprised and happy with the way he seemed to be sticking by his campaign promises like they were a contract to be fulfilled.

That's why today is so disappointing too though, because really that's the only thing I like about him. He isn't very deep philosophically, he's boorish, childish and often embarrassing.

I've often said the presidency is really important because in defending or attacking a president both parties are shaped, we become what we support. We had the Bush and Obama parties, which I didn't care for.

The parties that the Trump presidency is producing scare the fuck out of me. I'm afraid for the world my kids will have to live in.
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