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Posted: 12/7/2003 1:45:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:00:29 PM EDT
No problem at all. Especially if she was like Margaret Thatcher, but understands American Liberty. TXL
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:02:41 PM EDT
Women are too damned emotional about things. Men are more analytical. I will take analytical over emotional any day, especially when our national security depends on it.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:04:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By lvgunner777: Women are too damned emotional about things. Men are more analytical. I will take analytical over emotional any day, especially when our national security depends on it.
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What he said.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:04:50 PM EDT
yes, assuming there weren't any better male candidates....i wouldn't vote for Rice over someone like Frist, but I would over Dean/Klarck/etc....
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:07:12 PM EDT
Leadership. Men were designed for it. Overlapping bell curves to be sure, but, in general, men are better leaders. I would not vote for a woman unless it were either her or a Liberal gun grabber.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:09:15 PM EDT
maybe rice, but i would think that women would fold under pressure when it comes to gun laws. they would cower to all the anti's propaganda about orphans getting shot up or whatever. they might be a big risk to gun owners. just my opinion.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:09:21 PM EDT
[size=4][b]For some reason, I don't think this woman is nearly as emotional as most.[/b][/size=4] [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1560000/images/_1561791_condoleeza300ap.jpg[/img] Biography of Dr. Condoleezza Rice National Security Advisor Dr. Condoleezza Rice became the Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, commonly referred to as the National Security Advisor, on January 22, 2001. In June 1999, she completed a six year tenure as Stanford University's Provost, during which she was the institution's chief budget and academic officer. As Provost she was responsible for a $1.5 billion annual budget and the academic program involving 1,400 faculty members and 14,000 students. As professor of political science, Dr. Rice has been on the Stanford faculty since 1981 and has won two of the highest teaching honors -- the 1984 Walter J. Gores Award for Excellence in Teaching and the 1993 School of Humanities and Sciences Dean's Award for Distinguished Teaching. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded honorary doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, the University of Notre Dame in 1995 and the Mississippi College School of Law in 2003. She resides in Washington, D.C. June 2003
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:21:50 PM EDT
Not all females apply, but in general they are too emotional in the decision making process. So, for this question, no. If it ever happens, it'll depend on the person.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:26:20 PM EDT
If I honestly believed her to be as qualified, or in some cases, more qualified, then yes I would vote for a woman. None that are around the top of this politics game intrigue me enough to place that vote though.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:28:52 PM EDT
Let's just say I'd vote for Condaleeza if Shrill Hill was in the mix. -HS
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:30:18 PM EDT
Let's say Bush/Cheney are in their first year of their second term. Cheney falls ill and has to step down. How do they fill that void? Chain of Command or is it done by a vote?
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:32:58 PM EDT
Yes, I'd vote for a woman if she were qualified. There are quite a few of them out there that are not afflicted with dumb-ass woman syndrome.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:42:14 PM EDT
I voted no because there wasn't a [b]Hell No![/b] I know I'm gonna get alot of shit for this but..Women shouldn't be in politics or anything else. They should be at home raising their kids . Ya think I'm called Caveman for nothing?[}:D]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:45:11 PM EDT
I dont think Rice is anything especially presidential. She's a Soviet Union expert, and the NSA. People in those kinds of advisory or administrative positions usually aren't successful when they run for any office, let alone President. There aren't many remarkable women in American politics right now, sure as hell no one like Margaret Thatcher.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 3:44:47 PM EDT
[b] I WOULD VOTE FOR CONDE RICE FOR PREZ ANY DAY !!![/b]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 3:55:13 PM EDT
Dr. Rice is the only woman I can think of off the top of my head that I'd vote for. Truth be known, she scares the HELL out of the liberals too. Brilliant, black, female AND hard-core conservative. My kind of woman. She would be a great prez. Our problem is that the gay, fat-ass socialist from New York just might be the first female to sit behind the big desk in the Oval Office - and that scares the hell out of ME! [shock]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 3:57:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2003 4:02:09 PM EDT by lvgunner777]
Originally Posted By TheHurtgenForest: Let's say Bush/Cheney are in their first year of their second term. Cheney falls ill and has to step down. How do they fill that void? Chain of Command or is it done by a vote?
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Chain of Command.......... Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert would be next in line after Cheney. http://speaker.house.gov/features/app1.asp
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 4:10:38 PM EDT
What about Mrs. Dole?
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 4:22:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By lvgunner777:
Originally Posted By TheHurtgenForest: Let's say Bush/Cheney are in their first year of their second term. Cheney falls ill and has to step down. How do they fill that void? Chain of Command or is it done by a vote?
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Chain of Command.......... Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert would be next in line after Cheney. http://speaker.house.gov/features/app1.asp
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Thank you Gunner.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 4:31:58 PM EDT
[b]Ann Coulter[/b]?.... JYEAH!
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 4:33:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TxLewis: No problem at all. Especially if she was like Margaret Thatcher, but understands American Liberty. TXL
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Yep.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 4:36:25 PM EDT
I would vote for the right women over the likes of Charles Schummer, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy etc.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 4:46:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ilike9s: What about Mrs. Dole?
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She sucks. She's all in favor of increasing the size and scope of government and its interference in our everyday lives. She's also anti-gun. She isn't all that different from Hillary, IMO. I was really bummed she won a senate seat.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 4:57:16 PM EDT
No woman no time. Most men, no time.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 5:04:55 PM EDT
Not on your life! I married one, I work for one..... And I damn sure don't want to live in a country run by one!
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 7:25:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ilike9s: What about Mrs. Dole?
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An anti - a wolf in sheeps clothing if there ever was one.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 7:42:53 PM EDT
As a general rule, no. But I probably would if she were the only alternative to a POS liberal Democrat or a RINO in the Republican primary.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 7:50:02 PM EDT
I'd vote for a female with proper attitude and beliefs who wasn't afraid to strap on a pair as commander in chief.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 7:54:07 PM EDT
Not a chance.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 8:36:54 PM EDT
Look through this thread. It would be very similar to a Union group board that votes mostly democrappic. And this is why hillybill will never be elected. She would need more than the ultra liberal and the liberal female vote to win. Less than 30% of the democrappic males would vote for her.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 8:37:09 PM EDT
And when she says she has PMS it'll mean "Patriot Missles Sent" I thought of Ann Coulter right away, but I still voted no. I just think there are certain roles women were meant to play in life. Being the leader of the armed forces I don't think should be one of them. But, with that said, I would still give the woman the same respect as a man if elected to the office. (Other than in the men's room..Then she's on her own)
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 8:47:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2003 8:48:33 PM EDT by BusMaster007]
I voted yes, thinking of Condi Rice. I then thought of the Commander in Chief of the Armed Services of the United States of America, and I'm thinking a MAN should be in that spot, no matter what. Tough call. Now, Hillary Clinton as President scares me shitless. My plan would be to keep the White House under Republican watch for a long time. If Cheney were to opt out of the race, Rice would be a great replacement. If Cheney were to resign while in office, can Rice be appointed by the President? If Rice were to be Vice President, she could run in 2008. Who'd be a good running mate for her then? Ann Coulter? OTAY! [;D] edited to add: Rice/Coulter would be an intimidating duo. The WORLD would be at our mercy! Fearsome wenches run the White House! Whoa.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 9:03:05 PM EDT
I'd vote for the issues, besides, I'd have to be nuts to vote Democrat.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 9:18:17 PM EDT
I know it sounds like an echo in here, but the only female I'd vote for is Dr. Rice.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 9:24:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2003 9:26:55 PM EDT by SteyrAUG]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 9:29:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
Originally Posted By lvgunner777: Women are too damned emotional about things. Men are more analytical. I will take analytical over emotional any day, especially when our national security depends on it.
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Would you take Bill Clinton over someone like Thatcher? I agree with your generality. But if it came to Rice vs. Gore, I ain't voting for Gore.
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You are basing your answer on your political beliefs, not based on the original question, male versus female. Of course I would vote for the woman you mentioned running against the men you mentioned. I think the original question however had to do strictly with gender, not qualifacations or political beliefs.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 2:25:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lvgunner777: I think the original question however had to do strictly with gender, not qualifacations or political beliefs.
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That's what MEN do...we JUSTIFY everything. [;D]
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 2:45:02 AM EDT
I'd vote for Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 5:05:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/8/2003 5:07:40 AM EDT by MrsWildweasel]
It would totally depend of the woman running. I still believe that if you are to be Commander in Chief you need to have served in the military. There are alot of men I wouldn't vote for too.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 5:06:54 AM EDT
I voted NO. There was a time I would have voted opposite because I believed, and still do, that women could easily be intellectual equals. But, they are also wired to proceed on some "notion" they get into their heads and will go forward with blinders on and reject anything that contradicts the notion, regardless of how factual. So, no we can';t have that. Yes, it is roughly equivalent to some men who pedantically and stubbornly hold a platform, but ultimately a man will look at things, even if it is a poll, and rethink a position.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 6:56:14 AM EDT
Yes. If she has the qualifications. And I'm of the opinion that Condi Rice does. I'd vote for her. I don't know how she stands of RKBAs. But I read somewhere once that growing up in the deep south in the 50's there was a time when the Kluckers came calling. Her dad and several of the neighbors got out there shotguns and protected their homes. The Kluckers never came back. So she does have first hand knowledge on the WHY of RKBA and I'm sure will be rather supportive. Meaning while she may not be as supportive as WE would like, she is probably much more supportive than 95% of all the other politicians.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 7:04:14 AM EDT
Rice kicks ass. However, she has never won an election. I would think that she would make a better Vice President candidate. She would also bring a portion of black votes to the republican ticket.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 7:14:47 AM EDT
Never, no way, no how, I don't care who she is, I'll never vote for a woman for POTUS. [peep]
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 7:26:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By bvmjethead: Never, no way, no how, I don't care who she is, I'll never vote for a woman for POTUS.[peep]
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Let's say the choice in 2008 is: Democrats: Pres: Hilary Clinton VP: Wesley Clark Republicans: Pres: Condoleezza Rice VP: Fred Thompson The race is tight. Who ya gonna vote for? Some other party and give Clinton the chance to win?
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 7:32:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Q3131A:
Originally Posted By bvmjethead: Never, no way, no how, I don't care who she is, I'll never vote for a woman for POTUS.[peep]
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Let's say the choice in 2008 is: Democrats: Pres: Hilary Clinton VP: Wesley Clark Republicans: Pres: Condoleezza Rice VP: Fred Thompson The race is tight. Who ya gonna vote for? Some other party and give Clinton the chance to win?
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2 woman running heads up?? Obviously you have to take the one with the "R" behind their name. The thing is, the woman with the "R" behind her name wouldn't make it past the primaries anyway.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 7:50:15 AM EDT
NO CUNTS ALLOWED! FOGETABOUTIT!!
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 8:00:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lvgunner777:
Originally Posted By TheHurtgenForest: Let's say Bush/Cheney are in their first year of their second term. Cheney falls ill and has to step down. How do they fill that void? Chain of Command or is it done by a vote?
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Chain of Command.......... Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert would be next in line after Cheney. http://speaker.house.gov/features/app1.asp
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the president would appoint someone and congress would approve if both the pres and vice pres died in a plane crash or something, then it would be chain of command
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 8:12:02 AM EDT
I love the line Jack Nicholson had in As Good as it Gets. When a woman asked him how he writes women so well: "I think of a man and take away reason and accountability." Not just no, but hell no.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 8:13:51 AM EDT
No problem here, as long as she's qualified. And I DON'T mean Hitlery.
Link Posted: 12/8/2003 8:16:14 AM EDT
Sure, why not? Any qualified person should have a shot, no matter their gender. There are more than a few exceptionally intelligent women out there (Jeane Kirkpatrick comes to mind) who have the experience & common sense to deal with both domestic and international issues.
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