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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:05:39 PM EDT
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People always talk about "awkward kids" but I met so many fuck ups in public school that I don't see it as a real issue.  fucking THIS. "Every homeschooled kid I've met is weird!" Yeah, and there are no weird kids in regular schools....
OP, you have a lot of assumptions baked into your post. I can assure you that you have met more homeschooled kids than you realize; you only noticed the awkward ones. Homeschooled kids today aren't locked in the trailer with Christian Freako Momma handing them coloring books anymore. They get involved in sports, in clubs, in co-ops where they take classes with other kids 1-2 days a week. There are dozens of ways for them to get involved with other kids and with adults. My kids did a Wednesday co-op for 6 hours, were in Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, daughter was in 4H too, they did chess club at the library with adults weekly, etc. The amount of homeschooling curriculum available from publishers is STAGGERING. It can be books for lectures, self-paced books, self-paced online schooling, you name it. Are some homeschooling parents shitty? Sure. But most I know are doing a ton to teach their kids various subjects. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:06:06 PM EDT
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I hope your kids aren't in charge of designing my bridge if they were supposed to learn Newton's Laws on Wednesday. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:06:13 PM EDT
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Depends on the parents. Their choices can lead to good or bad results.
Public schools will deliver bad results, the only question is how bad. If you homeschool, make sure your kid gets a GED at the end. It avoids a lot of difficulties for them. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:06:30 PM EDT
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Home school these days isn't like what it was 20 years ago. Plenty of opportunities for social activities through things like band and team sports at the public school, home school collectives, etc. My learning about the real world or “socialization” as some call it came from having a part time job from age 13 on. You have to deal with bosses, co-workers, and worst of all, customers  .
You get out of it what you put into it, I know some lazy weird ignoramuses that raised and educated more lazy weird ignoramuses. I also knew families where the least smart kid of the family had a bachelor’s degree by the time he was 19. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:06:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As opposed to all the 'Normal' kids going to public/traditional schools trying to decide what gender they are, as well as being fully indoctrinated in the virtues of Socialism? My kids were home and private schooled. My daughter is a complete dumpster fire due to Mom's influence and liberal arts college education. Son is an aircraft engineer and gtg. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:07:23 PM EDT
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That doesn't happen in the real world. People who declare a gender transition are exceedingly rare, and teachers don't really indoctrinate their students in the virtues of socialism. That's a pair of strawmen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of the home schooled kids that I know are more than a little wonky. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:07:35 PM EDT
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When a parent home schools for the main purpose of shielding their children from society......its the wrong reason. You just end up turning your kid into a socially awkward recluse who can't interact with others once they finally leave their parents house.......and enter this new world they have never experienced before. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:07:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not going to shield my kids from society but they won’t spend 75% of their first 18 years of life being corrupted by shitty teachers and students. But again are there not socially awkward public school students and if there are how did they become awkward?? Off topic but one of the main things I do enjoy about homeschooling is the amount of time my kids can spend with their grandparents and other family members. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:08:16 PM EDT
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It's totally dependent on the parents.
College educated say at home / work from home parent vs Never graduated high school religious nutjob and everything in between. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:08:32 PM EDT
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Yeah, I have met socially awkward homeschooled kids. Mostly because the parents are socially awkward and kids follow the example. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:08:40 PM EDT
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You do understand that class times be moved not just dropped correct?? And hopefully your bridge isn’t designed by grade schoolers no matter what type of school they went to. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hope your kids aren't in charge of designing my bridge if they were supposed to learn Newton's Laws on Wednesday. I'm sure there are great ways to homeschool, and raise smart, well adjusted young people. But it's amazing how many homeschoolers grow up into complete weirdos. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:08:48 PM EDT
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There are nightmare stories out there for every option. There are great stories out there for every option.
Home schooling is just one option. Private, public, online, home, co-op. None will be perfect. All will have costs and compromises. All have strengths. All have weaknesses. The reality is that the decision should be based on balancing the parents' skills, time, education, kids' intelligence, personalities/character/diligence, needs, public options available, private options available, and budget and other logistics (time, transportation, etc) available. THEN you execute and try to overcome the weaknesses in the selected option. Some people have one option work for one kid but not for others. That's ok too. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:08:54 PM EDT
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Not all homeschooled kids turn out weird, but a disturbing number of weird people were homeschooled. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:09:33 PM EDT
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So no one has met “weird” or “social awkward” public school students? And what kind of society is public schools preparing kids for? Maybe I don’t want my kids part of that society. 
May I ask what your motivation is? Religious or otherwise? |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:09:51 PM EDT
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That doesn't happen in the real world. People who declare a gender transition are exceedingly rare, and teachers don't really indoctrinate their students in the virtues of socialism. That's a pair of strawmen.  /
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:10:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not going to shield my kids from society but they won’t spend 75% of their first 18 years of life being corrupted by shitty teachers and students. But again are there not socially awkward public school students and if there are how did they become awkward?? Off topic but one of the main things I do enjoy about homeschooling is the amount of time my kids can spend with their grandparents and other family members.
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:10:37 PM EDT
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With committed and involved parents, who truly care about their kids' education and preparation for the real world, it is amazing. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:10:38 PM EDT
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Simple test
If your child is in public school you not only don't love them, but actively work to handicap them. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:10:57 PM EDT
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It's totally dependent on the parents. College educated say at home / work from home parent vs Never graduated high school religious nutjob and everything in between. My mom was a psychologist, and a history buff and my dad a chemist. They were able to teach me properly. My sort of forced friends down the street also being home schooled were taught by their high school educated religiosity fanatic stay at home mom. The difference in the lessons they would get was pretty significant. I'm sitting there doing a science workbook learning about electrons and they had Bible lessons. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:11:21 PM EDT
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If you're going to homeschool, you'd better be damn sure that you know what you're teaching and can teach it well. You can't expect to give a kid a book and have them learn something properly from it.
Talented, dedicated teachers are a rare treasure. I was homeschooled and will forever regret it, and I'll push anyone who will listen toward private school instead. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:11:34 PM EDT
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That doesn't happen in the real world. People who declare a gender transition are exceedingly rare, and teachers don't really indoctrinate their students in the virtues of socialism. That's a pair of strawmen.
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:11:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:12:05 PM EDT
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Um, dude, I had teachers telling me how great socialism was starting in first grade. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of the home schooled kids that I know are more than a little wonky. First graders don't understand what socialism is. They don't understand what money is. They don't understand what work is. The smartest ones might begin to understand that their shoes are the thing that protects their feet from hurting when they walk on rocks, and they might know how to do single digit adding and subtracting. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:12:52 PM EDT
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That doesn't happen in the real world. People who declare a gender transition are exceedingly rare, and teachers don't really indoctrinate their students in the virtues of socialism. That's a pair of strawmen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know homeschooling is a hot topic on arfcom, but let me take my own high school as an example. I graduated with 34 kids in my class. 1 was a sociopath, who we’re lucky didn’t shoot up the school. 1 was mentally damaged from his mother murdering his father. 1 was born with some kind of brain clot, which partially paralyzed him and made him slow learning. The rest mostly grew up to be well adjusted, normal people. Now let’s look at the homeschooled kids. Almost exclusively, they were rural, and heavily religious. One girl around my age ended up in a nunnery, where they forbade her to have contact with her family. She speaks with a horrible screeching pitch, as do all her siblings. It’s impossible to have a conversation with her. Her entire family speaks the same way, with an awkward high voice. And another girl, who got ‘straight A’s all through her homeschool edication, and then ended up scoring a 17 on her ACTs. Almost all homeschooled people I know have awkward social tics, and the best they can hope for is to work on their family farm. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, that’s the same decisison I made. But those kids never had a chance. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:13:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:14:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People always talk about "awkward kids" but I met so many fuck ups in public school that I don't see it as a real issue. All you people talking about 'weird' homeschooled kids must be hanging out with weird parents. Most articulate, focused, well-adjusted obedient kids I have ever seen are homeschooled. Especially those with a Christian worldview. I sent my first daughter to small, private Christian school and so glad I did. She has a beautiful God-fearing family of her own now, and a husband that is amazing. With three new daughters (oldest 4 yrs old), I am currently looking at homeschool curriculums, styles/methodologies, local coops, etc. and totally inspired by the amazing results that come from a parent who is fully engaged with their children daily. No daycare or public school will ever replicate what a child can gain/experience from daily nurturing, training and discipline from loving, consistent parents. Not to mention the completely corrupted agenda of modern public schooling, especially in the past 10-15 years. And it is only deteriorating further. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:15:38 PM EDT
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I teach college, and home schooled kids I have had were very well educated and capable. I teach chemistry, so everyone I meet is a little weird.
Now having said that, the only 3 examples that I have personal experience with (co-worker--before current job, and family) all did it for all the wrong reasons. One did it because he was just too damn lazy and unorganized to get up and get the kids to school on time (single father). The other two did it because their kids didn't get along with folks in school and wasn't doing well, so by home schooling, they could get the HS diploma (actually one didn't even do that), and not really have to learn a lot. So, if the parents are capable and dedicated to it, it CAN be a far superior education. I don't think the socialization thing is a problem, in that most socialization is after school. I just think a lot of kids get home schooled because they can't handle the weirdness which is HS, where no one really fits in. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:16:12 PM EDT
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Your previous post was one complete strawman argument when you used the bolded. You apparently have NO clue what MOST home schoolers are. Just your ridiculous assertions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know homeschooling is a hot topic on arfcom, but let me take my own high school as an example. I graduated with 34 kids in my class. 1 was a sociopath, who we’re lucky didn’t shoot up the school. 1 was mentally damaged from his mother murdering his father. 1 was born with some kind of brain clot, which partially paralyzed him and made him slow learning. The rest mostly grew up to be well adjusted, normal people. Now let’s look at the homeschooled kids. Almost exclusively, they were rural, and heavily religious. One girl around my age ended up in a nunnery, where they forbade her to have contact with her family. She speaks with a horrible screeching pitch, as do all her siblings. It’s impossible to have a conversation with her. Her entire family speaks the same way, with an awkward high voice. And another girl, who got ‘straight A’s all through her homeschool edication, and then ended up scoring a 17 on her ACTs. Almost all homeschooled people I know have awkward social tics, and the best they can hope for is to work on their family farm. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, that’s the same decisison I made. But those kids never had a chance. Quoted:
That doesn't happen in the real world. People who declare a gender transition are exceedingly rare, and teachers don't really indoctrinate their students in the virtues of socialism. That's a pair of strawmen. I'm sure glad I went to public school, and learned the difference. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:16:30 PM EDT
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Simple test If your child is in public school you not only don't love them, but actively work to handicap them.  
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:17:00 PM EDT
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We do a part time home school program and it's great. My sister's kids are home schooled as well, and it's a very rigorous program- those kids are VERY smart, and very well educated. They do a lot of extracurricular activities for education benefits and socialization. My BIL is pretty awkward guy, so the kids have some of that, but they would have been like the with a public school as well.
My best friend has been a cobra pilot for 12 years and was home schooled. When done right home schooling is great. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:17:40 PM EDT
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it depends...
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:17:52 PM EDT
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At this point I'm pretty sure his paycheck is derived from public education. Probably hates private schools too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That doesn't happen in the real world. People who declare a gender transition are exceedingly rare, and teachers don't really indoctrinate their students in the virtues of socialism. That's a pair of strawmen. /Probably hates private schools too. I love private schools. I think it's a great idea to pay people who know how to teach children, rather than try to do it myself. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:18:06 PM EDT
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Simple test If your child is in public school you not only don't love them, but actively work to handicap them.
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:18:15 PM EDT
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Simple test If your child is in public school you not only don't love them, but actively work to handicap them. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:18:53 PM EDT
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At this point I'm pretty sure his paycheck is derived from public education. Probably hates private schools too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That doesn't happen in the real world. People who declare a gender transition are exceedingly rare, and teachers don't really indoctrinate their students in the virtues of socialism. That's a pair of strawmen. /Probably hates private schools too.
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:18:56 PM EDT
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Are you 12? I'm 22, and from my recollection teachers are more interested in getting a paycheck than founding a New World Order. First graders don't understand what socialism is. They don't understand what money is. They don't understand what work is. The smartest ones might begin to understand that their shoes are the thing that protects their feet from hurting when they walk on rocks, and they might know how to do single digit adding and subtracting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of the home schooled kids that I know are more than a little wonky. First graders don't understand what socialism is. They don't understand what money is. They don't understand what work is. The smartest ones might begin to understand that their shoes are the thing that protects their feet from hurting when they walk on rocks, and they might know how to do single digit adding and subtracting. Children don't have to understand something to be indoctrinated into it. A little girl playing with a doll understands virtually nothing about motherhood, but the structure of her experience is shaping her processing of reality. Please tell me you aren't a psychology major. If you are, demand a refund from your institution, they have utterly failed you. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:19:25 PM EDT
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This is a pretty simple topic but for some reason people blow it out of proportion. Homeschooling can be great, if the kids and parents work together and have discipline. If they don't it can be a wreck. Kind of like regular school... The socialization aspect is so absolutely stupid. You think homeschoolers are awkward because the only ones who go around telling the world they were homeschooled are the awkward ones. Just like I don't care where you went to high school I assume you don't care I was homeschooled. I enjoyed being homeschooled because it meant I had more socialization time with friends, go figure. We would work really hard all week to get our school done then snowboard all day Friday.
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:19:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:21:14 PM EDT
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Are you unable to tell the difference between someone telling a personal experience and someone stating a fact? I'm sure glad I went to public school, and learned the difference. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:22:15 PM EDT
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I didn't answer your poll because there are simply way too many variables involved. You asked is it better or worse education. Well, compared to what? Compare to an upper crust private school? Compared to a moderate christian school? Compare to a very good middle class neighborhood public school that is on par with the privates? Compared to a lower class neighborhood school? Compared to a poor neighborhood ghetto school? Also, many kids who go to public or private school turn out fine while others tun out socially awkward. The same can be said of home schooled kids.
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:22:39 PM EDT
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22? I'll cut you a lot of slack then. Youth and inexperience explains your ignorance and naivety. Children don't have to understand something to be indoctrinated into it. A little girl playing with a doll understands virtually nothing about motherhood, but the structure of her experience is shaping her processing of reality. Please tell me you aren't a psychology major. If you are, demand a refund from your institution, they have utterly failed you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All of the home schooled kids that I know are more than a little wonky. First graders don't understand what socialism is. They don't understand what money is. They don't understand what work is. The smartest ones might begin to understand that their shoes are the thing that protects their feet from hurting when they walk on rocks, and they might know how to do single digit adding and subtracting. Children don't have to understand something to be indoctrinated into it. A little girl playing with a doll understands virtually nothing about motherhood, but the structure of her experience is shaping her processing of reality. Please tell me you aren't a psychology major. If you are, demand a refund from your institution, they have utterly failed you. Can you cite patterns of children being taught the merits of socialism that isn't a unique case? Can you prove a general trend? |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:22:56 PM EDT
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What percentage of home schooled kids are weird....vs what percentage of gun owners shoot up schools?? Another herp derp comparison that makes no sense.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:23:26 PM EDT
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He's all of 22 years old.
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:23:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What percentage of home schooled kids are weird....vs what percentage of gun owners shoot up schools?? Another herp derp comparison that makes no sense.... |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:24:35 PM EDT
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I guess a thread with thoughtful discussion and mutual respect is too much to ask for.
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:24:56 PM EDT
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This is a pretty simple topic but for some reason people blow it out of proportion. Homeschooling can be great, if the kids and parents work together and have discipline. If they don't it can be a wreck. Kind of like regular school... The socialization aspect is so absolutely stupid. You think homeschoolers are awkward because the only ones who go around telling the world they were homeschooled are the awkward ones. Just like I don't care where you went to high school I assume you don't care I was homeschooled. I enjoyed being homeschooled because it meant I had more socialization time with friends, go figure. We would work really hard all week to get our school done then snowboard all day Friday. You citiots are going to be the death of this world. |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:25:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: THIS....I love how it is automatically assumed that home schooled kids are 'socially awkward' based on a few examples, respectively over the years, however, the continuous stream of complete crap that is puked from the public school system across this country is accepted as 'normal' readily by GD. *I do not have kids, but I would have NEVER sent them to a Public school as I consider that tantamount to child abuse. I do have kids and will NEVER send them to a public school to be abused, bullied, pushed into queer agendas, exposed prematurely to sexual promiscuity, political correctness, radical liberalism, active shooter drills/indoctrination, anti-gun agenda, Trump derangement syndrome, drugged up and dumbed down peers, etc. All of which is 'tantamount to child abuse.' |
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:26:57 PM EDT
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Jesus, you ARE impressive......You seem to have met the most home schooled folks in the entire world to be able to develop such deep experiences in such a short time... By using your standard, I have vast personal experience in meeting the products of the Public school system over the last 20 years and I stand by my assertions despite my only having gone to private schools. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:27:16 PM EDT
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Not a huge fan of home schooling, but parents need to be involved no matter what. We did private school, and then Public school. I also have tutor come two days a week. I want my kid to be exposed to as much as possible. I also feel vacation is a huge part of learning, and like to travel with my kid so she can what the government can do to people.
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Posted: 12/14/2018 12:27:19 PM EDT
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