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Posted: 11/28/2003 11:43:34 AM EDT
I am just wondering how many rounds you can put through this weapon without cleaning, before it starts malfunctioning?

I saw HK has a new replacment for the M-16 and it can go 25000 without cleaning??
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 11:53:33 AM EDT
[b]TROLL!!![/b] [:D] Aviator
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 11:59:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Aviator: [b]TROLL!!![/b] [:D] Aviator
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damn you caught me I thought you guys wouldn't catch on after nearly 2000 posts. Back to DU for me!
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 12:03:50 PM EDT
Canadian C-7 went 25,000 rounds also. Next.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 12:19:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Blackjack272: Canadian C-7 went 25,000 rounds also. Next.
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damn how can any weapon go that many rounds? do they clean it?
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 12:25:39 PM EDT
This is retarded thread #4 Ive read so far today....
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 12:28:00 PM EDT
come on guys. lumpy needs a good thread![:D]
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 12:30:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lumpy196: This is retarded thread #4 Ive read so far today....
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And the common-denominator is ? [;)]
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 12:36:12 PM EDT
Enlist. Find out. Let us know. Semper Fi
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 12:54:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JarheadChiro: Enlist. Find out. Let us know. Semper Fi
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I already did, 2 more months til benning.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:12:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JarheadChiro: Enlist. Find out. Let us know. Semper Fi
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[rolleyes] Civilians can have these guns too you know Wesley Clark.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 1:09:37 PM EDT
Trust me. You'll run out of ammo money long before that weapon jams. Witnessed an M16A1 burn thru 3K mixed tracer and ball one day on a qualification range. Guys were lined up with trash can lids full of magazines. No a burp, although you started getting flashback out of the chamber about round 800. I love it when you have to expend ammo instead of turning it in. [:D]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 1:19:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/7/2003 1:20:02 PM EDT by AR-15Fan]
Is the XM8's claimed 25k rnds in combat conditions, or just sitting on a standard range blazing? Still seems impressive but... What would be intersting is take them both to the windy desert, romp around on a little course of fire while blazing and see how they both do.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 1:28:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Johninaustin: Trust me. You'll run out of ammo money long before that weapon jams. Witnessed an M16A1 burn thru 3K mixed tracer and ball one day on a qualification range. Guys were lined up with trash can lids full of magazines. No a burp, although you started getting flashback out of the chamber about round 800. I love it when you have to expend ammo instead of turning it in. [:D]
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Are you serious? An A1? 3,000 rounds in one day? Pretty damn cool. Was it fun?[:D]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 1:59:18 PM EDT
No offense I was in the Military also, 3000 rds in one day w/no cleaning ? How about lube? I could see if you were squirting some CLP or WD40 in there every so often. Canadian C7 went 25,000 rounds I find that hard to believe. I dont think an AK could go 25,000rds without lube or cleaning. I dont want to start an AK vs AR thread that would be like [beathorse]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:12:39 PM EDT
Don't really remember if we lubed it or not, this was 1986. I don't think so. It also was not my weapon, so I don't know how dirty it got. We did have to stop a couple of times and tap the roll pins back in. I managed to dump 4 30 rd mags of nothing but tracer[:D]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:34:42 PM EDT
I put 2k rounds of S&B through my Armalite M15A4 in a 14 month period (750 rounds in about 2-3 hours on the last day) WITHOUT cleaning OR lube beyond 1 drop of CLP down the carrier key, 2 drops on the cam pin, a light film on the bolt, and a thin film on the rail guides at the begining of the 14 month period. No failures of any kind. No doubt the gas piston design of the AK will take more abuse then the gas tube of the AR, take one quick look at the M240G and the M249 for proof, but in REALITY you can't hump enough ammo to burn up an AR.
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:42:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Lumpy196: This is retarded thread #4 Ive read so far today....
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[:D]
Link Posted: 12/7/2003 2:44:21 PM EDT
I got out around '86 my experiences both with M16's ,M16A1's amd AR15's has been mixed.I love 'em but I hate 'em. I'm not gonna sit here and compare them to an AK or an M14 or a FAL they're different animals. But,and it's a big but i've seen a decent amount of MALFS with the M16 and the AR.Enough to make me doubt the system. I know I know you gotta have a decent mag,a green folower and good Ammo. Some guys swear they run their AR's on Russian Steel Case with no issues. Go Figure
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