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Posted: 11/28/2003 10:47:40 AM EDT
This guy is REALLY beginning to try my patience. It's a certainty that some people are alive only because it's illegal to shoot them!

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104322,00.html


Robbins' 'Embedded' Play Not So Realistic

Friday, November 28, 2003
By William LaJeunesse
LOS ANGELES — Embedded journalists brought the Iraq war live into America's living rooms.

But now, actor and anti-war activist Tim Robbins has written and directed a play depicting his version of what he thinks happened in Iraq.

Robbins, an ardent critic of President Bush, as well as the war, isn't a journalist, nor is he a soldier who has been to Iraq. In fact, he's never been embedded with the troops.

But his play, "Embedded," profiles the journalists who traveled with and reported on U.S. soldiers in Iraq and features the president's war cabinet. It was written in Los Angeles and produced in Hollywood.

Robbins portrays journalists as Pentagon puppets, U.S. soldiers as thieves and killers of innocent women and children, and the Bush cabinet as war mongers willing to start a war to escape the negative publicity of the Enron scandal.

In production less than a month, the play received not one, but two glowing reviews from the Los Angeles Times. Robbins' audience appears to accept his version of the war as the gospel truth.

"It is not propaganda. It is a voice of dissent, which is different than propaganda," said audience member Kadina Dayal-Halday.

When Laura Israel, another audience member, was asked if she thought the play was accurate, she replied: "Yes, not only on what is going on there, but it also showed how we are being lied to by all the networks."

One person who wasn't convinced by the portrayals was Marine Maj. Rich Doherty.

"It was spun to make it look like that leadership started this war simply for its own political agenda … and that can't be further from the truth," Doherty said.

Doherty, who has a Ph.D. from Berkeley, fought in Iraq and worked alongside several embedded journalists. After the show, which Fox News was not allowed to tape, Doherty discussed the performance with some of the audience and cast members.

"You're not on the ground, there is no historical, no empirical evidence to say...that what you're believing or saying politically (is true)," Doherty said.

"With all due respect sir, a lot of people in this country feel this administration went to this war with an agenda of their own and this play resonates with a lot of people who come to see it," countered V.J. Foster, an actor who plays the character of Col. Hardchannel in the play.

"That is your opinion based on what you saw in the newspaper," Doherty shot back. "I'm giving you an opinion based on what I saw with my boots on the ground and in the sand."

In the play, Hardchannel calls reporters "his bitches" and says that if he doesn't like what they write, he'll write it himself and simply use their names. He also censors all reports coming out of Iraq. Fox News journalists embedded with the troops, as well as other journalists interviewed for this story, said they never experienced any kind of censorship. Reporters were only told that they could not reveal operation details that might threaten the safety of U.S. troops -- a condition the Pentagon put on the embedded journalist program.

In reality, no one from the military or the government looked at copy produced by Fox News, touched the videotape, or edited scenes, and no one told reporters what to say.

"Not everything is factual, and maybe that is our fault through satire," added another "Embedded" actor, Kirk Pynchon, who plays a journalist. "Sometimes we make those errors, but it's the same kind of laughter that one gets watching an episode of MASH."

But most people, particularly journalists who actually were embedded with the troops overseas, will argue that Operation Iraqi Freedom was nothing like MASH.

"That demeans the Marines that were killed in my battalion, (to say they) died because five guys in a room thought it was fun to go create a war," Doherty said. "That is bad, bad theater, bad taste."

Robbins had declined to discuss "Embedded" with Fox News until after someone from the channel saw the play. But even after the viewing, Robbins declined interviews.

As in any work of fiction, playwright Robbins was free to invent his own reality of what led to the war in Iraq and what happened there. But for the men and women who served and for those reporters who actually covered them, "Embedded" -- while entertaining -- is far from the truth.



Link Posted: 11/28/2003 10:55:48 AM EDT
"It is not propaganda. It is a voice of dissent, which is different than propaganda," said audience member Kadina Dayal-Halday. i saw this woman talking on fox. i want to bust her in the eye. as for tim robbins, him and his wife think that because they shower themselves with hollywood status that they are the know all entities of the universe. its a shame they have a following that is foolish to follow it. also take not of the two rave reviews from the LA times.... go figure.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 10:59:24 AM EDT
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Dear Lord, if..... IF You are going to allow a terrorist organization to nuke a major city in the United States, I call upon You to PLEASE let it be Los Angeles and Hollywood! PLEASE! [size=1] Fat chance......why would the terrorists nuke their allies?[/size=1] [:\]
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 11:01:33 AM EDT
As also witnessed with the twisted movie account of the Reagans, the left is not interested in the truth. (Do you think it's just a coincidence that Barbara Streisand's initials are BS, or is the a higher, hidden meaning there?). In fact, the Truth is their worst enemy.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 11:03:29 AM EDT
[Tim Robbins] [img]http://drs.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=sour+grapes/v=2/l=IVS/*-http://www.sallyminker.com/art/2-d/images/grapes-print.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.streetgangs.com/homies/images/crybaby.jpg[/img] [/Tim Robbins]
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 11:07:18 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Brohawk: Do you think it's just a coincidence that Barbara Streisand's initials are BS, or is the a higher, hidden meaning there?
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I've always said that God has the best sense of humor in the universe...
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 11:39:13 AM EDT
Agreed. But I gotta believe that God is tired, VERY tired of things as they are. For those who don't believe in concepts like "the last days", you gotta ask yourself if evil isn't really running loose and completely unchecked right now. People like this are not merely misguided, that's distiction belongs to many of the Sheeple. The organizers of this type of deceit and subverssion know exactly what they are doing and what they want to accomplish. There is much evil afoot...
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 1:29:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Red_Label: Agreed. But I gotta believe that God is tired, VERY tired of things as they are. For those who don't believe in concepts like "the last days", you gotta ask yourself if evil isn't really running loose and completely unchecked right now. People like this are not merely misguided, that's distiction belongs to many of the Sheeple. The organizers of this type of deceit and subverssion know exactly what they are doing and what they want to accomplish. There is much evil afoot...
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Amen. I just hope that it IS the Last Days, or at least a simple slump. Don't know if our culture (or basic right, for that case) can take much more of this!
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 1:52:44 PM EDT
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He is an ass!!!
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 2:36:28 PM EDT
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Wow. Sounds like a very clever, subtle, and inventive work of satire. Not hamfisted at all. What pisses me off the most is that unless coverage of military operations isn't cybical or adversarial or doesn't cast the US in the worst possible light, it's considered a "lie" or "censorship".
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 2:41:27 PM EDT
Sounds like a very clever, subtle, and inventive work of satire. Not hamfisted at all.
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...or leftist propaganda.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 3:01:06 PM EDT
What a low life coward , this is just another reason why true americans should boycott any movies and other products made or performed by these anti-american socialist cowards.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 3:17:27 PM EDT
What do you expect. Look who he is shacked up with.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 3:44:40 PM EDT
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Robbins portrays journalists as Pentagon puppets, U.S. soldiers as thieves and killers of innocent women and children, and the Bush cabinet as war mongers willing to start a war to escape the negative publicity of the Enron scandal.
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Well, it doesn't look like he'll be winning the support of anyone who [i]actually witnessed the war first-hand[/i]...
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 3:47:37 PM EDT
Ole' timmmmaaayyyy needs a blanket party.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 3:57:10 PM EDT
Bear in mind that Robbins lives with Susan Sarandon. This means that, but for the necessity of driving the bolt home before the political philosophy overflows, he may well be the luckiest man alive. Be honest: wouldn't you pretend to be a leftist weenie if the payoff were sleeping with your nose buried between Susan Sarandon's right ear and her right armpit?
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