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Posted: 11/28/2003 5:27:11 AM EDT
Ok, who here is a Democrat ???
Or at least not a pure blood Republican.
I am registered as a Republican, but have voted accross party lines.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:28:10 AM EDT
I vote the person, never, ever along party lines. What thinking person would?
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:32:13 AM EDT
I'm registered as neither and I don't know why. I should probably get that fixed.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:34:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By hielo: I vote the person, never, ever along party lines. What thinking person would?
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ditto
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:38:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By hielo: I vote the person, never, ever along party lines. What thinking person would?
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ditto
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What he said.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:38:16 AM EDT
I am a registered as a Democrat, but I only did that so I could vote against Clinton in both the primary and the election. I am a fiscal conservative, a libertarian, but I am not a social conservative. I usually vote Republican because the gun issue is more important to me.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:41:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2003 5:54:43 AM EDT by Keyser_Soze]
100% Republican. And proud to say so. I have never crossed the party line. Voted Ford and lost. Voted Reagan and won. Voted Reagan and won. Voted Bush and won. Voted Bush and lost. Voted Dole and lost. Voted Bush and won. What's really cool is there has only been two Democrat Presidents in the last 34 years. It goes all the way back to when Nixon was in to present day. Karter and Klinton were the only two elected. [ROFL2] Edited to replace the C with a K for the peanut farmer.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:43:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2003 5:44:58 AM EDT by Glock31]
Registered democrat for local election (city & county level) purposes. Around here most democrats are more conservative and pro-gun than most west coast republicans. For senate, house, governor, and president, 99% chance I'll vote Repub.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:44:29 AM EDT
Registered Republican. Voted for a Democrat Sherif this election because he is class III friendly. --LS
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:45:25 AM EDT
I used to try and examine all the candidates to make an informed choice. Then, the democrats around here started sticking together to jam it in and break it off in us. I've had no choice lately but to vote straight Republican.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:47:42 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Keyser_Soze: What's really cool is there has only been two Democrat Presidents in the last 34 years. It goes all the way back to when Nixon was in to present day. Carter and Klinton were the only two elected. [ROFL2]
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And look at the damage they have done!
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:53:15 AM EDT
Registered Republican..........with Libertarian leanings
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 5:58:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dredd308:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By hielo: I vote the person, never, ever along party lines. What thinking person would?
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ditto
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What he said.
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Ditto, what he said. Even though a 3rd party vote is wasted.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 6:46:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Dredd308:
Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
Originally Posted By hielo: I vote the person, never, ever along party lines. What thinking person would?
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ditto
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What he said.
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I agree.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 6:52:02 AM EDT
I was in college and things were a little crazy. Everyone else was doing it. I didn't want to feel left out. Ok, ok, I admit it. I voted for Gore. [BD]
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 6:58:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:05:13 AM EDT
strait republican, i agree with ETH's reasoning
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:07:11 AM EDT
Im a regestered Democrat. I vote for the weakest Dem in the primary. I almost always vote Republican in elections. -HS
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:08:41 AM EDT
ErictheHun is absolutely correct. Party trumps person.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:08:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By hielo: I vote the person, never, ever along party lines. What thinking person would?
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Same here. I vote in all elections and some positions there are no Rep. I live in a largely Dem. area so I vote for those I know and trust. The larger elections are usually straight Rep. though. I look at all the issues as well as their stance on 2nd ammend. issues
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:14:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:20:41 AM EDT
Well said, ETH. I concur.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:28:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2003 7:56:08 AM EDT by cyanide]
So according to ETH, people are supposed to vote for any repugnant Republican just to support the RKBA, that is messed up in a major way. I understand his reasoning, but it is flawed as there are other things on the agenda that require attention, example --- capital punishment in Ohio, you had to vote for a anti gun Republican to get executions started, Ohio had about 35 on death row just watching cable tv everyday. I am sure there are some Democrats that vote pro gun. edit because I failed to proof read -------- Also known as spell check, boy I miss it.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:34:08 AM EDT
I've always voted Republican and I probably always will. The Democrats around here (and in most places) are WAY too socialistic. I say "probably always will" because, since I'm 27, I have MANY more elections to go. In those many elections, a viable Libertartian candidate for US Senate, House, or POTUS may appear. If so, he/she WILL be getting my vote.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:50:03 AM EDT
<---Republican
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:50:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By chuckhammer: I've always voted Republican and I probably always will. The Democrats around here (and in most places) are WAY too socialistic. I say "probably always will" because, since I'm 27, I have MANY more elections to go. In those many elections, [size=3]a viable Libertartian candidate for US Senate, House, or POTUS [/size=3]may appear. If so, he/she WILL be getting my vote.
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Here also, sign me -------- fed up with both the Dem's and Repub's.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:00:38 AM EDT
I always vote Libertarian. They are the only ones who are truly interested in a Constitutional form of government for the this country.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:07:58 AM EDT
Bullshit ETH!!!! Grassroots politics still exists in America. Get to know your candidates and hit the streets. Local politics are easier to influence and in the long run, stands the greatest chance of making the biggest difference on a national scale collectively.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:17:56 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:26:04 AM EDT
I'm a registered Democrat. I troll the caucuses, not because I am trying to submarine them but because I'd like to see the "true" democratic party (not the socialist / communist party) come back. I hate the party system, but if we're going to have it we need two strong parties. When I go to the caucuses, I try to steer people toward the views of Zell Miller. When they refuse, I cast my "primary" votes for the most absurd looney Democrat with a chance. In the main elections, I have been voting Repub consistently, and will continue to do so. We need to get a filibuster proof majority of repubs in the Senate. ITS ALL ABOUT THE JUDGES, FOLKS. Here's a link from our friend Keven, if you can't see why: [url]http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2003_11_16_smallestminority_archive.html#106952155045860520[/url]
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:31:21 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:45:31 AM EDT
I am really tired of all the rhetoric of the neo-cons that claim a third party vote is a wasted vote, and that there are no other viable canidates other than tweedle dee and tweedle dum. It is all in your minds, you believe this tripe, because you choose too, not because it is fact. True freemen would never say such garbage.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:59:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 9:03:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2003 9:07:28 AM EDT by cyanide]
It is? Damn, I thought my reasoning was flawless!
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Well is isn't.
So explain where I went wrong, if you will.
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I think Bendover did that quite well, you just refuse to accept it.
Our RKBA has the ability to change not only whether we have the power to implement desirable changes, but whether the government will continue to exist as it has in the future!
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Not so --- Technology in the military has made this a moot point, if the government ever goes rogue on the people, the puny arms that the majority have would just be a small thorn in the military's side. cyanide the cynic
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 9:03:25 AM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: There may well be, but none, absolutely [u]none[/u] will have a greater impact on the future of this Republic, indeed, the very existence of this Republic, than how the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS is respected by the government.
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You mean, like how they respect it now?
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 9:09:46 AM EDT
I am a fiscally conservative, libertarian leaning, independant, with anarchistic tendancies. I vote the whatever candidate is most supporteive of my world view, regaurdless of political party.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 9:22:52 AM EDT
Originally Posted By hielo:
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: There may well be, but none, absolutely [u]none[/u] will have a greater impact on the future of this Republic, indeed, the very existence of this Republic, than how the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS is respected by the government.
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You mean, like how they respect it now?
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Yeah like GW, Ashcroft and the rest support RKBA........
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 1:12:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thedave1164:
Originally Posted By hielo:
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: There may well be, but none, absolutely [u]none[/u] will have a greater impact on the future of this Republic, indeed, the very existence of this Republic, than how the RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS is respected by the government.
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You mean, like how they respect it now?
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Yeah like GW, Ashcroft and the rest support RKBA........
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Exactly. Republicans, democrats, the only difference is in their time frame.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 1:19:32 PM EDT
I vote guns, and only guns. Guns are the most important thing in life. Siblings, Parents, Spouses will some day die, and no matter how strong they were, a dead relative or loved one can't wield the power that you can with a gun. You own guns to defend yourself, and loved ones, and anybody who wants to take guns away wants to harm you and your loved ones. while my parents, children, wife and friends may get sick, or die, guns are our only real saviors on earth. Thats why I vote guns, and only guns. Remember, guns matter the MOST.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 7:20:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By EricTheHun: Post from BenDover - We will all be looking in earnest, next Fall, to see how the [b]BenDover Grassroots And Take It Back Like A Man Campaign[/b] fares in Ohio! What's your congressional delegation makeup now? I will bet you that [b]Texas[/b] increases its House make-up by at least 4 new Republicans! What will you bet me about Ohio? [:D] Wiil you rise to this challenge? Eric The(OrWillYouBenDover)Hun[>]:)]
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Grassroots campaign is alive and well in my part of the woods. We communicate with our district state reps and heavily on the local level. One of the original CCW co-sponsors in OH is the state rep in my district. There's more good ol' boys in my neck of the woods to make noise. It's the major metros that are a holdout. But then again, that's also why I moved to the smaller pond - you can be a much bigger fish. BTW... Cincinnati is the biggest Republic fundraiser in the nation... and proud of it. Too bad the city council is comprised of a bunch of fruitcakes, but everyone knows that the Cincinnati Business Committee runs the place anyway.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:07:32 PM EDT
i agree with ETH on this one, i really think its funny when people tell me they "vote for the best canidate, not with a party" if a person has any sort of political ideology they will end up usually voting with the same party.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:13:05 PM EDT
Pro-Gun, Pro-Death Penalty Democrat.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:14:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2003 8:18:44 PM EDT by The_Macallan]
[b]I will be a registered Democrat very soon. Then I can vote in my state's primary election for Howard Dean. He's the best [u]realistic[/u] Democratic candidate to ensure a GWBush landslide in the '04 General Election. WHOO-HOO!!![/b] [img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20031124/capt.sge.hvh28.241103070028.photo00.default-384x235.jpg[/img] [b]EDITED: And if the summer/fall polls show GWBush trouncing "Mean Dean", GW will be much less likely to want to (or need to) sign any gun laws just to pander to the moderate soccer moms.[/b]
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:17:18 PM EDT
I vote for the person, not the party. The majority of the time, I vote for the Republican.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:19:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/28/2003 8:23:46 PM EDT by Andreuha]
I'm NEITHER. I'm a Libertarian / borderline Republican. If there's a viable Libertarian candidate, he WILL get my vote; otherwise Republican will probably be the choice.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:24:13 PM EDT
[img]http://decisivedesign.biz/kirkphotos/chart.jpg[/img] any questions?
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:32:28 PM EDT
I don't think I have ever crossed party lines either. I am a registered republican with libertarian leanings also. I think this is one situation in life, where a label is important. If a candidate put an (R) next to his name, and is endorsed by the local (R) party, that (R) gives me a pretty good indication of what his/her belief structure consists of. This also works with the little (D) symbol you sometimes see used. I pretty much avoid voting for those that use the (D) symbol because those who use it do NOT have the same belief system that I do. They have saved me the trouble of researching their beliefs by self identifying (incriminating) themselves as (D)ers!!! This saves me much time during voting season. I have a good friend here who ran for the county legislature in 2002 (he lost by 123 votes) and while I really like the guy, because he had the little (D) symbol next to his name, I didn't vote for him. I'll continue to use this system until a better one becomes available.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:37:27 PM EDT
I'm a registered independent, issue-by-issue voting American. I believe that partisan politics and internal bickering between political parties (not to mention mud-slinging) is a major problem in the United States. We need to remember that we're all on the same side. Just my two bucks.
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:43:32 PM EDT
[url]http://decisivedesign.biz/kirkphotos/chart.jpg[/url]
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I seriously doubt that TONY BLAIR is to the right of the center horizontal line. I don't fucking believe that. I don't think he would either!!
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:50:51 PM EDT
I'm registered as a Democrat, but only so I can fvck with their primaries. I'm voting for Kucinich! [lol]
Link Posted: 11/28/2003 8:53:05 PM EDT
You know, the only mud slinging I see going on is from the demonrats. I think the Repubs need to learn to sling a little mud of their own. But what little they do sling is usually the mud thrown at them by the (D) party that they scrape off themselves and throw back, with limp wrists I might add. Part of me wishes they would grow some balls and fight fire with fire. The other part is proud that we at least try not to stoop to their level.
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