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Posted: 11/29/2018 2:59:12 PM EDT
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You think that in 2 years his base will even remember what happens tomorrow? And you think that his base will vote for BETO and not Trump because of it? Hopefully Americuhhhh will continue its precipitous decline a lot faster than it has been so that people will wake the fuck up. I want to see the the American public hurry up and begin confiscation of all semi automatic and modern firearms. Put up or shut up. You are never ever ever ever ever getting your rights back. Unless we create an environment where people demand them back. The only way to do that is to accelerate the decline of civil liberty. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:00:19 PM EDT
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Have we seen the text yet? I'm curious how they could do this without new legislation (aside from the now obsolete fact the feds have no lawful authority to ban anything). I'm curious what they could come up with that would survive a court challenge. We have weird and complex gun laws now. We don't need more weirdness or complexity. That's more the issue than bumpstocks. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:02:10 PM EDT
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Sad thing is every one of the past Republican presidents would have signed this BS ban, including Ronald Reagan.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:03:34 PM EDT
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Could it be Trump wants to force a legal review of unconstitutional laws? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:03:51 PM EDT
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MOLON LABE MOTHERFUCKERS, COME AND TAKE IT! Actually I don't own one, but I don't think many people will defy this law. I could be wrong. Some days the president of the company I work for is cool, other days he can be a jackass. I don't always do what he says on those days because he is wrong and slow to learn. This is no different. Trump wants to play he needs the votes in Congress to pass it or go sit in his sandbox and pound sand. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:04:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:07:52 PM EDT
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I won't be voting for anyone who makes that many gun owners felons with the stroke of a pen. He's just another scumbag politician. Fuck him. Fuck the NRA. Fuck anyone who thinks this is ok. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:09:19 PM EDT
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I will turn mine in............. for $35,000 cash or in exchange for adding any gun to the MG registry Anything less they can get fucked and come get it from me. Hope whoever they send to take it is fine with losing their life over a piece of plastic. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:09:26 PM EDT
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I'm really tired of this. We all know good and well that everyone, including you, is going to turn them in. And if they come for them, you're going to hand it over nice and easy, along with anything else they want. These are facts, just as surely as the sun will rise. There will be that one in a million guy living in a bunker in his basement who will resist, and he may take a few of them with him, but he's gonna get mowed down in the end, or wacoed. And those cops he takes with him might very easily be cops on this forum, with families. Cops who right now are probably saying they would refuse to follow such orders, quit their jobs before they would confiscate anyone's bump stocks. But that's BS too. When push comes to shove, they'll do what they're told because their families like to eat. So let's just all cut the bullshit. If you ignore this mandate and the orders come down from on high to confiscate your contraband, the cops are going to come to your door and demand your bump stocks, and you're going to hand them over without a fight, then allow yourself to be led away in handcuffs to face weapons charges. And if you are that one in a million asshole who murders a cop over a piece of plastic, you're going to death row, and 99% of the people on this forum will say good riddance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will turn mine in............. for $35,000 cash or in exchange for adding any gun to the MG registry Anything less they can get fucked and come get it from me. Hope whoever they send to take it is fine with losing their life over a piece of plastic.
I'm really tired of this. We all know good and well that everyone, including you, is going to turn them in. And if they come for them, you're going to hand it over nice and easy, along with anything else they want. These are facts, just as surely as the sun will rise. There will be that one in a million guy living in a bunker in his basement who will resist, and he may take a few of them with him, but he's gonna get mowed down in the end, or wacoed. And those cops he takes with him might very easily be cops on this forum, with families. Cops who right now are probably saying they would refuse to follow such orders, quit their jobs before they would confiscate anyone's bump stocks. But that's BS too. When push comes to shove, they'll do what they're told because their families like to eat. So let's just all cut the bullshit. If you ignore this mandate and the orders come down from on high to confiscate your contraband, the cops are going to come to your door and demand your bump stocks, and you're going to hand them over without a fight, then allow yourself to be led away in handcuffs to face weapons charges. And if you are that one in a million asshole who murders a cop over a piece of plastic, you're going to death row, and 99% of the people on this forum will say good riddance. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:13:54 PM EDT
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This is ridiculous. They aren't even serialized. They would effectively be making funny-shaped pieces of plastic into contraband. 
If this goes through, it will carve a large enough piece off of Trump's base that he will not likely be re-elected. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:18:00 PM EDT
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Bad signature. Fuck him for signing it, if he does. @NoloContendere |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:26:34 PM EDT
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I love this president...he has done great things for this country, but lately......it seems he is just pleasing the enemy democrat leftists with these stupid compromises.... The bump stock issue has gone away and now he's bringing it up. Let the democrats bring it up next year |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:29:12 PM EDT
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So let me understand this. BumpStocks are dangerous
so Feds ban & people who own them have 90 days to turn in or destroy. So what happens when Feds decide 30 round magazines are dangerous & tell us we have 90 days to turn in or destroy? Glad I don’t have either 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:31:08 PM EDT
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Yes I will remember and no way I will vote for beto. I just dont give a fuck anymore. Most of us just won't vote because voting doesn't fucking matter. Hopefully Americuhhhh will continue its precipitous decline a lot faster than it has been so that people will wake the fuck up. I want to see the the American public hurry up and begin confiscation of all semi automatic and modern firearms. Put up or shut up. You are never ever ever ever ever getting your rights back. Unless we create an environment where people demand them back. The only way to do that is to accelerate the decline of civil liberty. We gained rights back several times. When the AWB went away, when many states went to shall-issue and then Constitutional carry; with Heller and McDonald, etc. In the bigger picture, I think it is likely we will lose. When, given what's at stake, Dems can retake the House in 2018, it is a bad sign. We have three choices, as I see it: 1) Defeat the Dems politically for a generation. Make them walk the wilderness and come back with different ideas. 2) Submit. 3) Civil war. 3 above would be horrific. 2 would be much worse. 1 appears highly unlikely. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:35:37 PM EDT
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I agree The bump stock issue has gone away and now he's bringing it up. Let the democrats bring it up next year The only people who care about this issue is a small part of his base who oppose it, and an even smaller part of the opposition who hate him much more than they hate bumpstocks. Hell, they don't really care about the issue, they are just trying to move the ball forward for their side. He wants to be POTUS to the American people, unlike Obama he doesn't hate half of America. I think that may play into his calculations. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:37:09 PM EDT
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yes, I'm sure that's it 
perhaps we'll have MG amnesty as a result of this Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Could it be Trump wants to force a legal review of unconstitutional laws?
perhaps we'll have MG amnesty as a result of this |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:37:16 PM EDT
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Incrementalism.
Bump stocks first. Semi-autos next. You can bet on that. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:38:28 PM EDT
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Where is Hawaiian judge when you need him?
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:38:36 PM EDT
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I'm really tired of this. We all know good and well that everyone, including you, is going to turn them in. And if they come for them, you're going to hand it over nice and easy, along with anything else they want. These are facts, just as surely as the sun will rise. There will be that one in a million guy living in a bunker in his basement who will resist, and he may take a few of them with him, but he's gonna get mowed down in the end, or wacoed. And those cops he takes with him might very easily be cops on this forum, with families. Cops who right now are probably saying they would refuse to follow such orders, quit their jobs before they would confiscate anyone's bump stocks. But that's BS too. When push comes to shove, they'll do what they're told because their families like to eat. So let's just all cut the bullshit. If you ignore this mandate and the orders come down from on high to confiscate your contraband, the cops are going to come to your door and demand your bump stocks, and you're going to hand them over without a fight, then allow yourself to be led away in handcuffs to face weapons charges. And if you are that one in a million asshole who murders a cop over a piece of plastic, you're going to death row, and 99% of the people on this forum will say good riddance. Oh, and if someone does, they'll do it alone, or perhaps with some small group that will be arrested or killed, and everyone will just write them off as crazy, or criminal, or both. There is not going to be any revolution over individual civil liberties as long as people have fairly good jobs, careers, homes, and lives, and not as long as obesity and type 2 diabetes are problem in America. It's just not going to happen. But there won't be door to door confiscations either. The police aren't going door to door for firearms. First, that could make too many criminals at one time. You never want to do that when you put up a prohibition, you don't want to draw that much attention to it. Second, they don't have the manpower or money to do something like that. They'll just do what they've done with every other gun law. They'll arrest people and throw the book at them as they come across them. They'll heavily penalize them as an example for the rest. Then everyone else will either turn their stuff in, bury it, or dispose of it themselves for fear of going to federal prison for decades, and losing their entire life. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:39:16 PM EDT
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Keep chugging that kool aid! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"President Trump Signing Bump Stock Ban" is not the same as "President Donald Trump is expected to announce that he will be signing..." Just saying.... |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:43:39 PM EDT
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Where is Hawaiian judge when you need him? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:45:15 PM EDT
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Incrementalism. Bump stocks first. Semi-autos next. You can bet on that. A 'give them enough rope and they will hang themselves' play. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:52:54 PM EDT
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Eight years of “Gun Grabing Evil Democrat Adminsitration”. = No significant gun regulations other than removing the ban on CCW in national parks.
Half way through the first term of “Gun Loving Conservative Administration”. = reclassification of bumpstocks and maybe binary triggers. Vocal support of FL governor new age rules for long gun and ammo purchases. No attempted movement on nationwide CCW reciprocity till they lost majority power, now they want to pass it. It’s as if they are blowing smoke up our asses to get votes. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:53:03 PM EDT
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Don't have one but I'm against any encroachment on the right to bear arms.
If he can do it - then a Dem POTUS can do stuff too. 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:54:18 PM EDT
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Don't have one but I'm against any encroachment on the right to bear arms. If he can do it - then a Dem POTUS can do stuff too. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:56:01 PM EDT
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Maybe we all should buy 1. Flood the streets with them.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:57:57 PM EDT
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I’m not an owner of https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/29/report-president-trump-signing-bump-stock-ban-citizens-have-90-days-to-turn-them-in/ Report: President Trump Signing 29 Nov 2018 President Donald Trump is expected to announce that he will be signing a ban on bump stocks that gives Americans 90 days to hand them over or otherwise dispose of them. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 3:58:50 PM EDT
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NRA wanted them gone because they were being made for AK's and other guns as well and it was hurting their NFA owners/donors investments. Gotta keep those NFA prices up! Would have been great to see them made for the RPD, FAL, G3 M249s etc etc.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:04:24 PM EDT
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wait until some wacko commits a high profile crime with a binary trigger.......or a 10.5 pistol with a brace
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:06:51 PM EDT
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#NYValues
#Cuck |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:14:13 PM EDT
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in order for it to be a compromise, both sides give up something in order to gain something in return. I don't see that we are gaining anything. Therefore, this would be a concession, not a compromise. We've been "compromising" our rights away for 80+ years. Enough. I don't want anymore "compromise", I don't want anymore concessions. This is going to cost Trump long term. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:18:00 PM EDT
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Hurrrr deer durrrrr.... Muh 87d chess.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"President Trump Signing Bump Stock Ban" is not the same as "President Donald Trump is expected to announce that he will be signing..." Just saying.... |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:18:23 PM EDT
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wait until some wacko commits a high profile crime with a binary trigger.......or a 10.5 pistol with a brace |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:21:18 PM EDT
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NRA wanted them gone because they were being made for AK's and other guns as well and it was hurting their NFA owners/donors investments. Gotta keep those NFA prices up! Would have been great to see them made for the RPD, FAL, G3 M249s etc etc.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:25:26 PM EDT
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With all the things on the line, not voting for Trump over this in 2020 is pretty stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I won’t be voting for anyone who makes that many gun owners felons with the stroke of a pen. He’s just another scumbag politician. Fuck him. Fuck the NRA. Fuck anyone who thinks this is ok. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:28:08 PM EDT
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It's O.K.,,, we'll be getting the wall any day now.
Jay |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:28:38 PM EDT
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Turn them in or what?
They didn’t come door to door for all the Norinco Ammo that’s still floating around |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:29:11 PM EDT
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Wake up!!!! Semi-autos are on the line if this goes through. You just don't get it do ya. Fuck DJT. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:30:16 PM EDT
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It's long past the point where everyone should ignore bullshit like this.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:30:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:33:44 PM EDT
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Quick!! Send up the Bat-Signal #OrangeManBad... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Where is Hawaiian judge when you need him? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:46:27 PM EDT
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I'm really tired of this. We all know good and well that everyone, including you, is going to turn them in. And if they come for them, you're going to hand it over nice and easy, along with anything else they want. These are facts, just as surely as the sun will rise. There will be that one in a million guy living in a bunker in his basement who will resist, and he may take a few of them with him, but he's gonna get mowed down in the end, or wacoed. And those cops he takes with him might very easily be cops on this forum, with families. Cops who right now are probably saying they would refuse to follow such orders, quit their jobs before they would confiscate anyone's bump stocks. But that's BS too. When push comes to shove, they'll do what they're told because their families like to eat. So let's just all cut the bullshit. If you ignore this mandate and the orders come down from on high to confiscate your contraband, the cops are going to come to your door and demand your bump stocks, and you're going to hand them over without a fight, then allow yourself to be led away in handcuffs to face weapons charges. And if you are that one in a million asshole who murders a cop over a piece of plastic, you're going to death row, and 99% of the people on this forum will say good riddance. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I will turn mine in............. for $35,000 cash or in exchange for adding any gun to the MG registry Anything less they can get fucked and come get it from me. Hope whoever they send to take it is fine with losing their life over a piece of plastic.
I'm really tired of this. We all know good and well that everyone, including you, is going to turn them in. And if they come for them, you're going to hand it over nice and easy, along with anything else they want. These are facts, just as surely as the sun will rise. There will be that one in a million guy living in a bunker in his basement who will resist, and he may take a few of them with him, but he's gonna get mowed down in the end, or wacoed. And those cops he takes with him might very easily be cops on this forum, with families. Cops who right now are probably saying they would refuse to follow such orders, quit their jobs before they would confiscate anyone's bump stocks. But that's BS too. When push comes to shove, they'll do what they're told because their families like to eat. So let's just all cut the bullshit. If you ignore this mandate and the orders come down from on high to confiscate your contraband, the cops are going to come to your door and demand your bump stocks, and you're going to hand them over without a fight, then allow yourself to be led away in handcuffs to face weapons charges. And if you are that one in a million asshole who murders a cop over a piece of plastic, you're going to death row, and 99% of the people on this forum will say good riddance. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:52:19 PM EDT
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So, the liberals hate him -- and will hate him no matter what he does, they won't be appeased - and now the conservatives will hate him too.
Especially the gun rights people that helped to elect him by such a narrow margin. He is basically destroying his own support base. I think 2020 looks really bad. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:52:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:53:23 PM EDT
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Pretty sure Heller had some specific stuff to say about semi-autos being protected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wake up!!!! Semi-autos are on the line if this goes through. You just don't get it do ya. Fuck DJT. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:53:36 PM EDT
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I find it hard to believe that it'll work that way.
TBH Bumpstocks and Sessions have been my only disappointments with him. I knew he would fumble the ball on something, hopefully it will stay just those two and no Reagan Amnesty for illegals etc |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:54:41 PM EDT
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Pretty sure Heller had some specific stuff to say about semi-autos being protected. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wake up!!!! Semi-autos are on the line if this goes through. You just don't get it do ya. Fuck DJT. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:55:24 PM EDT
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The President doesn't have the authority to unilaterally change legislatively codified definitions.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 4:59:15 PM EDT
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If I have to give something up I am supposed to be compensated. Where's the money?
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Posted: 11/29/2018 5:01:18 PM EDT
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I'll gladly trade in my bump stock rights for hearing protection act rights. So much for compromise.
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