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Posted: 11/25/2003 10:33:50 AM EDT
Why hasn't someone manufactured a ar15 in semi auto with a 100rd capacity (like a beta mag) that is bolted or welded in the magwell to get arround the AWB?? If im not mistaken then it could have all of the other evil features ie pistol grip, teli-stock, flash supressor, bayo lug, because it would not be possible for it to accept any other "detachable" magazines hence it would be exempt right? yet it would have a 100round capacity... Could I build somthing like this if i wanted to or am i missing something?

PS- I'm not really going to do anything, just wondering in case they renew the AWB, thanks
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 10:39:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2003 10:40:53 AM EDT by Oslow]
Probably because of the 10 rd mag limit. You should have done this in 1993.
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 10:39:18 AM EDT
I belive that the magazine ban applies to manufacturing any magazine beyond 10 rounds reguardless if it's fixed or not. You can manufacure a non-semi-automatic weapon and put evil features on it - or using a fixed magazine of less than ten rounds do the same thing ... but is a bayonette lug that important?
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 10:43:18 AM EDT
does it make a difference if the beta mag itself is a pre ban?? or basicaly for this type of a set up 10rounds is all i can do?? thanks again
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 10:44:00 AM EDT
A number of states have explicit limits (10 in some, odd numbers like 31 in OH). The other problem is that I think the AWB still applies:
SEC. 07. BAN OF LARGE CAPACITY AMMUNITION FEEDING DEVICES. (a) Prohibition: Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section----06, is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection: `(u)(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for a person to transfer or possess a large capacity ammunition feeding device. `(2) This subsection does not apply to-- `(A) a transfer to or by, or possession by or under the authority of, the United States or any department or agency of the United States or a State, or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State; `(B) the lawful transfer or lawful possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device that was lawfully possessed before the effective date of this subsection; or `(C) the transfer or possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device by a licensed manufacturer or licensed importer for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Secretary.'. (b) Definition of Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device: Section 921(a) of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section----02(b), is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph: `(30) The term `large capacity ammunition feeding device'-- `(A) means-- `(i) a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition; and `(ii) any combination of parts from which a device described in clause (i) can be assembled; but `(B) does not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.'.
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With the exception of tubular .22LR mags, it looks like there is no exemption for fixed mags. Even though your mag would be non-detachable, it would still violate the AWB.
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 10:45:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JONNYROCKO: does it make a difference if the beta mag itself is a pre ban?? or basicaly for this type of a set up 10rounds is all i can do?? thanks again
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You'd still be SOL, because the preban mag cannot be modified to the extent that it no longer works in the original weapon; that constitutes manufacturing a new "high capacity" mag.
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 10:45:54 AM EDT
what would be the point? you would have to open the upper to reload and that would be a MAJOR PIA. Not to mention the weight. mike
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 10:53:25 AM EDT
ya, it would be a pain, but it would be 100rds without reloading, and without unloading (beta mags can be loaded all the time without any negative effects on the mag) Its more of a I don't really want to, but could i question
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 11:12:36 AM EDT
Do you even have a fucking ar?? Do you know how heavy 100 rounds of ammo is when hanging from the magwell???? Carry extra mags and stfu, MILSURP!!!!
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 11:16:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By lvgunner777: Do you even have a fucking ar?? Do you know how heavy 100 rounds of ammo is when hanging from the magwell???? Carry extra mags and stfu, MILSURP!!!!
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[RED][B]BINGO!!!!!!!!!!![/B][/RED]
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 11:17:27 AM EDT
why does everyone on this forum accuse me of beings some jack ass named MILSURP!! I am not him, just asking a stupid question.. I assure you that i understand how much 100 rounds weigh, i am just wondering if is was possible... man, cut me some slack
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 11:19:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Airwolf:
Originally Posted By lvgunner777: Do you even have a fucking ar?? Do you know how heavy 100 rounds of ammo is when hanging from the magwell???? Carry extra mags and stfu, MILSURP!!!!
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[RED][B]BINGO!!!!!!!!!!![/B][/RED]
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Cruel guys, just plain cruel.[:D]
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 11:40:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JONNYROCKO: why does everyone on this forum accuse me of beings some jack ass named MILSURP!! I am not him, just asking a stupid question.. I assure you that i understand how much 100 rounds weigh, i am just wondering if is was possible... man, cut me some slack
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Seems you have been asking a lot of stupid questions lately, no????
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Sounds like Milsurp to me.......HMMMMM
Link Posted: 11/25/2003 11:47:19 AM EDT
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