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Posted: 2/17/2019 1:20:06 AM EDT
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What optic is that? I'd like to go with the deltapoint because it has the optional rear sight. I've been seeing mixed info on what optics interchange though. |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 4:03:42 AM EDT
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I went with the forward-milled dovetail for my rear sights on both slides. How about you guys?
That guy from Sage Dynamics has some videos explaining the benefits of forward vs rear. I was easily convinced, given that most rear sights with any dots or markings have always been too busy for me and caused focus issues with my eyes.  Back Up Sight Placement on RDS Handguns |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 8:19:37 AM EDT
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@phortykal
I posted this in tech about irons forward of optic vs rear. Irons Forward (blacked out Ameriglo GL-429; lower 1/3rd) for the following reasons (in order of priority to me):- Puts the RMR further away from the ejection port and RMR window is partially eclipsed by the rear sight, both of which result in reduction/elimination of carbon and lube buildup on the window. After hundreds of rounds my RMR window is still minty fresh instead of carbon frosted like my buddies gun - RMR further back means I didn't have to cut or re-purchase any new holsters to fit the RMR. Given I have about $300 dollars in Glock 19 holsters, this was a good thing - The RMR window isn't very big, and having the irons to the rear eats up some of the bottom of the window. At least with irons in front, the dot can be superimposed so the full window is usable - While I dont beat up my RMR, irons forward provide some protection to the optic body if you cycle the gun off a hard surface The detractors would say the following: - reduced sight radius (I can still shoot head shots at 25 Y on IPSC target, so I don't find that to be an issue) - looks wonky (you get used to it ) |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 12:16:20 PM EDT
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How are the new converts &/or fence sitters progressing? Especially YoteSlayer, who had a Saul of Tarsus moment after reading the Sage Dynamic white paper 
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/113559/saul_png-847221.JPG @YoteSlayer69 @tc2129 @Harv24 @Birddog1911 @bjohnson425 @floater33 @nlm23 @2tired2run @Ltlabner @polymorpheous @SIASL @RC-1136 @phortykal @Justintime2 @KTM300XCW Can't remember if I've posted and update... Glock17 Gen5 MOS Trijicon RMR Mounted and a couple range sessions with it So far loving it but does take a minute to get the hang of it Have been practicing draws while working in my office to get used to presenting with the dot visible Now I want a G26 Gen5 with an RMR for no real reason lol |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 12:20:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Update: Can't remember if I've posted and update... Glock17 Gen5 MOS Trijicon RMR Mounted and a couple range sessions with it So far loving it but does take a minute to get the hang of it Have been practicing draws while working in my office to get used to presenting with the dot visible Now I want a G26 Gen5 with an RMR for no real reason lol |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 2:53:25 PM EDT
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Just joined the club this week with a Brownells slide 
Carry mode: https://i.imgur.com/QmT075E.jpg Fun mode: https://i.imgur.com/OVOBUPl.jpg |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 3:01:36 PM EDT
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And what is a Channel Liner? Brownells says you need them for these slides.
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Posted: 2/17/2019 3:03:22 PM EDT
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And what is a Channel Liner? Brownells says you need them for these slides. |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 3:51:02 PM EDT
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And what is a Channel Liner? Brownells says you need them for these slides. Install tool |
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Posted: 2/17/2019 4:00:31 PM EDT
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How are these Brownell slides? I have always wondered if they hold u to the Glock OEM slides? |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 12:12:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It seems fine to me, though since I just got it last week and have yet to use it much I'm not one to speak to how it will hold up over the long run. Fits in my Glock IWB holster (Incog) with no issues and I like the front slide serrations. Feels like a good alternative to slide milling (I was impatient and didn't want to wait weeks for milling+nitride coating) plus now I still have my factory slide unmolested just in case for any reason. what irons did you put on and do they hit poa/poi |
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Posted: 2/20/2019 11:32:22 AM EDT
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@thestig what irons did you put on and do they hit poa/poi Trijicon suppressor series night sights (GL201-C-600649). Yes, they are co-witnessed with the RMR. |
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Posted: 3/4/2019 11:28:46 AM EDT
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My G26 and G19 slides should be arriving back from Maple Leaf Firearms this weekend. I am impatiently waiting.
I will get some thoughts and pics up for you guys as soon as I get them together. |
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Posted: 3/4/2019 1:30:51 PM EDT
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My G26 and G19 slides should be arriving back from Maple Leaf Firearms this weekend. I am impatiently waiting. I will get some thoughts and pics up for you guys as soon as I get them together. |
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Posted: 3/4/2019 1:34:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: pepperidge farm remembers.jpg I haven't made the switch yet but its coming. Need Sig to put out some RMR cut slides. |
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Posted: 3/4/2019 2:08:45 PM EDT
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My G26 and G19 slides should be arriving back from Maple Leaf Firearms this weekend. I am impatiently waiting. I will get some thoughts and pics up for you guys as soon as I get them together. My second g19 should be here in 2 weeks. |
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Posted: 3/4/2019 2:29:27 PM EDT
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Q on zeroing red dots on pistols...
I thought a cowitness with the iron sights would be the end goal, but I watched a Sage Dynamics video that said that was bad logic. Now I’m wondering how do I figure out where to put the dot...? I can adjust elevation so it’s above the front sight but how much...? I’m thinking of zeroing at 25 yds if that matters, but am completely willing to consider another distance. |
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Posted: 3/4/2019 2:32:04 PM EDT
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I like 15Y.
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Posted: 3/4/2019 5:27:18 PM EDT
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Q on zeroing red dots on pistols... I thought a cowitness with the iron sights would be the end goal, but I watched a Sage Dynamics video that said that was bad logic. Now I’m wondering how do I figure out where to put the dot...? I can adjust elevation so it’s above the front sight but how much...? I’m thinking of zeroing at 25 yds if that matters, but am completely willing to consider another distance. |
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Posted: 3/4/2019 6:24:51 PM EDT
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I’ve had this for a few weeks and have put about 300 rounds through it. Still getting used to it but the dot is much better than irons with my old eyes.
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Posted: 3/5/2019 11:18:05 AM EDT
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Shouldn't it be like any other zero for defensive situations? I usually use JBM ballistics and run the zeros at different distances to see if there is one zero that will cover the ranges within an acceptable drop group that might be encountered. IIRC my 300blk is 75 yds, 9mm carbine is 50yd, 223 is 50 yd... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Q on zeroing red dots on pistols... I thought a cowitness with the iron sights would be the end goal, but I watched a Sage Dynamics video that said that was bad logic. Now I’m wondering how do I figure out where to put the dot...? I can adjust elevation so it’s above the front sight but how much...? I’m thinking of zeroing at 25 yds if that matters, but am completely willing to consider another distance.
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Posted: 3/6/2019 10:21:29 AM EDT
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Q on zeroing red dots on pistols... I thought a cowitness with the iron sights would be the end goal, but I watched a Sage Dynamics video that said that was bad logic. Now I’m wondering how do I figure out where to put the dot...? I can adjust elevation so it’s above the front sight but how much...? I’m thinking of zeroing at 25 yds if that matters, but am completely willing to consider another distance. |
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Posted: 3/9/2019 2:52:18 PM EDT
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I received my slides back today. I could not be happier with the work done by Maple Leaf Firearms. Can't wait to shoot these Tuesday.
        
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Posted: 3/9/2019 7:51:14 PM EDT
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Those look awesome. How's the drawing practice
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Posted: 3/9/2019 7:54:58 PM EDT
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Those look awesome. How's the drawing practice |
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Posted: 3/14/2019 5:54:41 AM EDT
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After seeing this thread I've really put some work into using my RMR's and definitely see the speed and target acquisition advantages over irons. As others have said put in the work and these things work great.
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Posted: 3/16/2019 11:40:25 PM EDT
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So I put my first RMR on a G22 today and the dot resembles a bird shot pattern. Is this me or did I get a bad RMR?
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Posted: 3/16/2019 11:48:33 PM EDT
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So I put my first RMR on a G22 today and the dot resembles a bird shot pattern. Is this me or did I get a bad RMR? |
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Posted: 3/16/2019 11:50:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: An RMR does not make you accurate, but it lets you see your sight without focusing on multiple planes. It is easier for most people once they understand and practice the appropriate drills, etc. A handgun for me is a close quarter protection tool. But hell, if y'all like it I'm glad it works for you! |
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Posted: 3/17/2019 12:17:51 AM EDT
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Just not a fan, I have far too much trigger time behind irons. Truth is if I ever get into an altercation the chances of me even using sights are about .02%. for that .02% if I need to actually align the sights with my target... well, I know how to aim, and I'll have time to aim. A handgun for me is a close quarter protection tool. But hell, if y'all like it I'm glad it works for you! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: An RMR does not make you accurate, but it lets you see your sight without focusing on multiple planes. It is easier for most people once they understand and practice the appropriate drills, etc. A handgun for me is a close quarter protection tool. But hell, if y'all like it I'm glad it works for you! |
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Posted: 3/17/2019 12:18:13 AM EDT
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You probably have astigmatism Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I put my first RMR on a G22 today and the dot resembles a bird shot pattern. Is this me or did I get a bad RMR? |
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Posted: 3/17/2019 12:32:04 AM EDT
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The weird thing is when I looked through it holding it in my hand the dot was fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I put my first RMR on a G22 today and the dot resembles a bird shot pattern. Is this me or did I get a bad RMR? |
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Posted: 3/17/2019 12:37:32 AM EDT
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Isn’t this an argument *for* an RMR? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: An RMR does not make you accurate, but it lets you see your sight without focusing on multiple planes. It is easier for most people once they understand and practice the appropriate drills, etc. A handgun for me is a close quarter protection tool. But hell, if y'all like it I'm glad it works for you! |
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Posted: 3/17/2019 8:22:29 AM EDT
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So I put my first RMR on a G22 today and the dot resembles a bird shot pattern. Is this me or did I get a bad RMR? If its crisp - it's you. |
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Posted: 3/19/2019 11:47:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just not a fan, I have far too much trigger time behind irons. Truth is if I ever get into an altercation the chances of me even using sights are about .02%. for that .02% if I need to actually align the sights with my target... well, I know how to aim, and I'll have time to aim. A handgun for me is a close quarter protection tool. But hell, if y'all like it I'm glad it works for you! |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 8:23:27 PM EDT
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Just not a fan, I have far too much trigger time behind irons. Truth is if I ever get into an altercation the chances of me even using sights are about .02%. for that .02% if I need to actually align the sights with my target... well, I know how to aim, and I'll have time to aim. A handgun for me is a close quarter protection tool. But hell, if y'all like it I'm glad it works for you! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: An RMR does not make you accurate, but it lets you see your sight without focusing on multiple planes. It is easier for most people once they understand and practice the appropriate drills, etc. A handgun for me is a close quarter protection tool. But hell, if y'all like it I'm glad it works for you! |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 8:51:20 PM EDT
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I sent a G17 slide off to Jagerwerks for an RMR cut. I'm looking forward to giving it a try.
Any of y'all that have dealt with Jagerwerks before, am I really in for like a six week turnaround? I didn't do anything fancy, mill the slide for an RMR, install Dawson black/black sights with the factory rear dovetail, and refinish in black nitride. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 8:56:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In other words, you don't have enough time behind irons. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:56:36 PM EDT
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Waiting on next slide
RMR waits patiently single plane aiming |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:02:45 PM EDT
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Waiting on next slide RMR waits patiently single plane aiming  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:04:53 PM EDT
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Haha haiku bat signal
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:10:56 PM EDT
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This needs to not suck and get imported to the US, unless it does suck, then it can stay overseas.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:34:07 PM EDT
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Details?
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:38:13 PM EDT
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This needs to not suck and get imported to the US, unless it does suck, then it can stay overseas. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173129/BDDE0A3D-3BAC-4AEB-B0DD-FC19B2172AA2-884804.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
This needs to not suck and get imported to the US, unless it does suck, then it can stay overseas. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/173129/BDDE0A3D-3BAC-4AEB-B0DD-FC19B2172AA2-884804.jpg Quoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:42:05 PM EDT
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Any options to put an RMR style optic (Shield RMS, Trijicon, Leupold, etc) on a Glock 43/48 slide?
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:47:56 PM EDT
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Details? |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:48:42 PM EDT
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Any options to put an RMR style optic (Shield RMS, Trijicon, Leupold, etc) on a Glock 43/48 slide? |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:50:13 PM EDT
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It's German, it fits the Glock MOS cut. That's all I know. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Details? 
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:55:45 PM EDT
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That seems like a really difficult window to pick up compared to normal mrds unless they have some magic going on. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:01:22 PM EDT
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