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Posted: 11/19/2018 8:47:20 PM EDT

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Are you sure that isn't Wyoming?

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Are you sure that isn't Wyoming?

Had an over flight today of Chinooks. Damn are they loud. Not sure where they were going, other than N. W.

I had my hopes up that Trump was coming for a surprise visit.

Posted: 11/20/2018 6:46:53 PM EDT

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What a pile of shit . I bet the doors don’t even line up

Posted: 11/20/2018 7:47:47 PM EDT

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Posted: 11/20/2018 7:53:56 PM EDT

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I expected Trump to fly in this.

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The South Lawn would have to be renamed the South Cinder Pit

Posted: 11/20/2018 7:53:58 PM EDT

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Commie loading to the Left

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Cool beans. MAGA Choppa

Commie loading to the Left

And which way do the commies unload??

Posted: 11/20/2018 7:59:18 PM EDT

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Didn't the USSS say that they won't allow the President to fly on an Osprey?

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:01:44 PM EDT

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I expected Trump to fly in this.

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Or maybe this:

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:05:35 PM EDT

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Or maybe this:

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yeah and both those aircraft need a frickin runway if they have more than half a tank of fuel and any payload

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:07:02 PM EDT

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Your seat's in the back, Mr. President.

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:11:37 PM EDT

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They cancelled that and started over after, I hope, somebody beat the USSS and NAVAIR over the head with the final package of requirements from the last one.

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Requirements come from the resource sponsor - USSS in this case. OPNAV N98 for aircraft and carriers, N96 for ships, N97 for submarines, etc

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:17:48 PM EDT

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where' the sling

load kit for the beast

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:26:01 PM EDT

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I wish we could see the ass end of this pig

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:32:55 PM EDT

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Your seat's in the back, Mr. President.

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Because he is flying it?

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:35:39 PM EDT

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Posted: 11/20/2018 8:36:36 PM EDT

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Those doors look pretty sweet

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:37:32 PM EDT

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Where is the rocket-propelled, parachute-equipped, escape pod?

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:40:08 PM EDT

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I expected Trump to fly in this.

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I'm relieved that he didn't. I remember the 60 Minutes TV show segment about the Osprey that the Marines wanted so bad and had been crashing and killing Marines. The Marine Corps command knew about the malfunctions that the Osprey had and they tried to cover it up. That segment had the Marine Officer that was being interviewed, ride on an Osprey with 60 Minutes crew to prove that the Osprey was safe. He looked kind of nervous when they filmed that flight. They never did say if Bell Helicopter ever figured out what was causing the crashes and if they ever resolved that "issue."

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:44:22 PM EDT

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I'm relieved that he didn't. I remember the 60 Minutes TV show segment about the Osprey that the Marines wanted so bad and had been crashing and killing Marines. The Marine Corps command knew about the malfunctions that the Osprey had and they tried to cover it up. That segment had the Marine Officer that was being interviewed, ride on an Osprey with 60 Minutes crew to prove that the Osprey was safe. He looked kind of nervous when they filmed that flight. They never did say if Bell Helicopter ever figured out what was causing the crashes and if they ever resolved that "issue."

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Posted: 11/20/2018 8:47:04 PM EDT

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So what kind of inspections does our presidents aircraft go through? And who gets to turn the wrenches?

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:49:20 PM EDT

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Can someone explain this statement:

"The U.S. Air Force approved the VH-92A designation on Oct. 3, 2014." Why does the USAF get to approve a Naval Aircraft nomenclature?

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The services have used a common designation system for aircraft since 1962. The USAF happened to get the job of managing new designation assignments. They haven't done the best job of sticking to the standards.

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:50:32 PM EDT

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Bet the WH reeked of pot and Newports.

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nice, no obama stink

but i wish it was a VTOL Osprey

Bet the WH reeked of pot and Newports.

And fur

Posted: 11/20/2018 8:50:54 PM EDT

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I remember years ago Trump owned a Puma. It was really nice. Hell I think he had a Chinook too.

Posted: 11/20/2018 9:11:07 PM EDT

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I thought I heard they were going with Ospreys.

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Don’t those crash all the time?

I say shithook or nothing

Posted: 11/20/2018 9:13:45 PM EDT

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Built in Connecticut

Posted: 11/20/2018 9:18:40 PM EDT

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HMX-1 squadron must have their own maintenance people?

Posted: 11/20/2018 9:27:37 PM EDT

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Don't those crash all the time?

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I thought I heard they were going with Ospreys.

Don't those crash all the time?

I say shithook or nothing

They crash a lot less frequently than the CH-46's they replaced...

Posted: 11/20/2018 9:28:40 PM EDT

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HMX-1 squadron must have their own maintenance people?

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So what kind of inspections does our presidents aircraft go through? And who gets to turn the wrenches?

HMX-1 squadron must have their own maintenance people?

They do, specially screened and selected. Everybody in HMX-1 and the Air Force VIP squadron at Andrews gets in-depth investigations.

Posted: 11/20/2018 9:33:47 PM EDT

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I'm relieved that he didn't. I remember the 60 Minutes TV show segment about the Osprey that the Marines wanted so bad and had been crashing and killing Marines. The Marine Corps command knew about the malfunctions that the Osprey had and they tried to cover it up. That segment had the Marine Officer that was being interviewed, ride on an Osprey with 60 Minutes crew to prove that the Osprey was safe. He looked kind of nervous when they filmed that flight. They never did say if Bell Helicopter ever figured out what was causing the crashes and if they ever resolved that "issue."

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Arfcom on 60 minutes:

I can't believe these idiots fall for these obvious false narratives about guns, the media are so obvious with their agenda!

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OMG 60 minutes really exposed the osprey and the Marines with real hard hitting and factual investigative journalism I remember it clearly

Posted: 11/20/2018 11:09:21 PM EDT

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The services have used a common designation system for aircraft since 1962. The USAF happened to get the job of managing new designation assignments. They haven't done the best job of sticking to the standards.

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I figured it was something like that. Thanks for the info!

Posted: 11/20/2018 11:34:26 PM EDT

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53K is probably overkill for that task.

S92 is typically a better fit.

Trump has a few S76’s in his personal fleet.

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Posted: 11/20/2018 11:42:13 PM EDT

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that heli is flat out sexy

Posted: 11/21/2018 12:17:04 AM EDT

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That thing would tear up the lawn and destroy all the plants around it.

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https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/053110osprey9cr.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1

That thing would tear up the lawn and destroy all the plants around it.

The White House is long past due for a hard surface helipad.

I do think they should have a couple of Ospreys set up for POTUS transportation. There are a lot of transportation missions where they would save a lot of time and streamline the entire mission profile. Not every day from WH to Andrews, but there are other places it would be appropriate.

Posted: 11/21/2018 12:22:18 AM EDT

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That was when it was a good aircraft handicapped by requirements growth. Now it’s a shitty (but US indigenous) aircraft with far lower requirements. Winning!

Posted: 11/21/2018 1:22:26 AM EDT

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That was when it was a good aircraft handicapped by requirements growth. Now it’s a shitty (but US indigenous) aircraft with far lower requirements. Winning!

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I thought the new tender for Marine One's was withdrawn under Obama due to cost? How does this one exist?

That was when it was a good aircraft handicapped by requirements growth. Now it’s a shitty (but US indigenous) aircraft with far lower requirements. Winning!

what's wrong with the s-92?

Posted: 11/21/2018 1:30:31 AM EDT

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what's wrong with the s-92?

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I thought the new tender for Marine One's was withdrawn under Obama due to cost? How does this one exist?

That was when it was a good aircraft handicapped by requirements growth. Now it’s a shitty (but US indigenous) aircraft with far lower requirements. Winning!

what's wrong with the s-92?

It’s a Blackhawk powertrain with a much larger and heavier fuselage. Worse margins all around and good for hauling self loading cargo to oil platforms, that’s about it.

Posted: 11/21/2018 5:18:02 AM EDT

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It’s a Blackhawk powertrain with a much larger and heavier fuselage. Worse margins all around and good for hauling self loading cargo to oil platforms, that’s about it.

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I thought the new tender for Marine One's was withdrawn under Obama due to cost? How does this one exist?

That was when it was a good aircraft handicapped by requirements growth. Now it’s a shitty (but US indigenous) aircraft with far lower requirements. Winning!

what's wrong with the s-92?

It’s a Blackhawk powertrain with a much larger and heavier fuselage. Worse margins all around and good for hauling self loading cargo to oil platforms, that’s about it.

Lol, no it isn’t.

Posted: 11/21/2018 5:42:35 AM EDT

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I'm relieved that he didn't. I remember the 60 Minutes TV show segment about the Osprey that the Marines wanted so bad and had been crashing and killing Marines. The Marine Corps command knew about the malfunctions that the Osprey had and they tried to cover it up. That segment had the Marine Officer that was being interviewed, ride on an Osprey with 60 Minutes crew to prove that the Osprey was safe. He looked kind of nervous when they filmed that flight. They never did say if Bell Helicopter ever figured out what was causing the crashes and if they ever resolved that "issue."

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I expected Trump to fly in this.

https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/053110osprey9cr.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=664&h=441&crop=1

I'm relieved that he didn't. I remember the 60 Minutes TV show segment about the Osprey that the Marines wanted so bad and had been crashing and killing Marines. The Marine Corps command knew about the malfunctions that the Osprey had and they tried to cover it up. That segment had the Marine Officer that was being interviewed, ride on an Osprey with 60 Minutes crew to prove that the Osprey was safe. He looked kind of nervous when they filmed that flight. They never did say if Bell Helicopter ever figured out what was causing the crashes and if they ever resolved that "issue."

Nov. 14, 2017

CV-22 and MV-22 variants, has surpassed the 400,000 flight hour milestone.

The V-22 Osprey has been continuously deployed since entering service in 2007 with the United States Marine Corps (USMC) and the Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC) in 2009.

The aircraft has seen extensive action in Afghanistan as part of Operation Enduring Freedom, in Iraq as part of Operation Iraqi Freedom, and as part of a U.S. Central Command (USCENTCOM) Special Purpose Marine Air Ground Task Force (SPMAGTF) supporting a long-range rapid reaction/crisis response force.

Posted: 11/21/2018 6:12:45 AM EDT

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While VRS is something that is common to all rotary wing aircraft, the V-22 is actually less susceptible to VRS than most helicopters. If the V-22 does experience VRS, the potential consequences are more severe because of the configuration (separation) of the rotors. In the April, 2000 flight, the mishap aircraft experienced VRS on only one of the rotor-props, so one side was producing lift and the other was not, which flipped the aircraft about its longitudinal axis.

Posted: 11/21/2018 6:24:16 AM EDT

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It’s a Blackhawk powertrain with a much larger and heavier fuselage. Worse margins all around and good for hauling self loading cargo to oil platforms, that’s about it.

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Careful regurgitating those army urban legends, they are often not true.
It's the same basic design and layout as a Blackhawk but shares no parts.
The engines produce significantly more power than common blackhawks and the rotors/drivetrain are larger and capable of using the higher power.

I'm not in the know about the ospreys in hmx1, but as I understand the president does not fly on a v22 due to risk. A v22 is more complex and has more moving flight critical parts than a helicopter and this is reflected in statistical reliability calculations that are used for airworthiness and safety purposes.

Posted: 11/21/2018 7:13:43 AM EDT

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Nice looking bird!

Posted: 11/21/2018 9:04:34 AM EDT

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Ospreys are junk. There are a few that are green top. They ferry press and parts.

Posted: 11/21/2018 9:08:00 AM EDT

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The vh is not even close to the same type of bird as the 92.

Posted: 11/21/2018 9:08:54 AM EDT

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I like it.

Posted: 11/23/2018 8:56:29 AM EDT

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It's already happened.

Posted: 11/23/2018 9:42:36 AM EDT

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Didn't the USSS say that they won't allow the President to fly on an Osprey?

It's already happened.

When?

Posted: 12/18/2018 1:45:42 AM EDT

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Didn't the USSS say that they won't allow the President to fly on an Osprey?

It's already happened.

https://twitter.com/FLOTUS/status/1074738388048039936

Good enough for FLOTUS apparently.

Posted: 12/18/2018 1:52:13 AM EDT

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Posted: 12/18/2018 2:24:17 AM EDT

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OSINT says Trump Airlines only owned that helicopter from 89-92. Looks like that tail number is on a Cessna now and the helo is owned by Columbia Helicopters Inc.

Posted: 12/18/2018 2:32:55 AM EDT

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Can someone explain this statement:

"The U.S. Air Force approved the VH-92A designation on Oct. 3, 2014." Why does the USAF get to approve a Naval Aircraft nomenclature?

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Because it’s a true-service naming system and someone has to be the OPR. They should give me that job, I’d be a ruthless enforcer of the simple rules in the standard.

No, you don’t get to be an H-92, H-61 is the next unassigned design number for helicopters.

Posted: 12/18/2018 2:35:37 AM EDT

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so, an AW Merlin ripoff?

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