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Posted: 11/14/2018 4:32:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Cheaper than ground launch" is yet to be proven... Pegasus is the most expensive launcher on Earth in terms of $/kg. Planes also limit the size of the rocket, that giant monster plane Paul Allen built will lift less than half of what a Falcon 9 will do with land recovery of the booster. SpaceX had not sent anything into orbit when this project was put in motion, and they are clearly aiming at different markets. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 4:39:08 PM EDT
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Cost is not the same as price. SpaceX had not sent anything into orbit when this project was put in motion, and they are clearly aiming at different markets. They wont be aiming at different markets if SpaceX hits it's cost targets with BFR though... ~$10 million for 100+ tonnes to orbit. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 5:02:06 PM EDT
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$40,000 per kg? Holy hell. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 5:07:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that cheap or expensive? 
Cheapest ride to space right now in terms of $/kg is the SpaceX Falcon Heavy. They're aiming for about $100/kg for the fully reusable BFR. Generally speaking though, it costs more to put smaller satellites in orbit than larger ones in terms of $/kg. It's closest competitor, Electron, is about $30,000/kg. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 5:32:45 PM EDT
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that would be awesome if it was nuclear tipped. 
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Posted: 11/14/2018 5:37:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Costs half the price too. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 5:44:39 PM EDT
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The Virgin/Orbit business is actually being funded by Abu Dhabi, which explains how they have so much money and are moving so fast.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 5:56:06 PM EDT
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The Virgin/Orbit business is actually being funded by Abu Dhabi, which explains how they have so much money and are moving so fast. 
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:03:20 PM EDT
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So fast? |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:06:01 PM EDT
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Imagine a fleet of those with ICBM's strapped under their wings.  |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:17:08 PM EDT
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Well, they did lose 3 people in a horrible nitrous explosion, and then a co-pilot. Caution comes at a price. Virgin Orbit started operations in 2017, thats pretty dang fast. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:22:26 PM EDT
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So in a pinch we can arm up our civilian fleet of passenger aircraft...
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:22:41 PM EDT
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Spinoff. Big diff.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:25:20 PM EDT
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Thats Virgin Galactic, which has been dragging their feet. Virgin Orbit started operations in 2017, thats pretty dang fast. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, they did lose 3 people in a horrible nitrous explosion, and then a co-pilot. Caution comes at a price. Virgin Orbit started operations in 2017, thats pretty dang fast. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:31:26 PM EDT
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Got it.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:45:15 PM EDT
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The Virgin/Orbit business is actually being funded by Abu Dhabi, which explains how they have so much money and are moving so fast.  I can't believe people are excited about this, we once had an aircraft known as the X15 and X15B, the world's first operational space plane, and it was also launched by aircraft, B52. People excited about stuff NASA had figured out in the 60's
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:47:39 PM EDT
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I was hoping when I saw the picture that they were going to try to put the 747 in orbit with the rocket booster - that would be much more interesting.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 6:53:38 PM EDT
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I was hoping when I saw the picture that they were going to try to put the 747 in orbit with the rocket booster - that would be much more interesting. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 8:53:30 PM EDT
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There was actually a B made for TV movie that had that premise. ‘The Plane That Couldn't Land’, or something like that, starting Hal Lynden.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 9:17:05 PM EDT
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So in a pinch we can arm up our civilian fleet of passenger aircraft... |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 2:46:35 AM EDT
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Wouldn't it be more cost-effective to mount one under EACH wing, and then just wait until you had two payloads that could both go up on the same flight? |
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