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Posted: 11/22/2003 12:24:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2003 12:27:39 PM EDT by Raynor_Schiene]
I, _________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

One of the best things I ever swore to. What's cool also is, when I got discharged, I didn't have to rescind it.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 12:57:55 PM EDT
I remember. There were about 8 of us at the time, it was at the Meps center in down town MPLs MN. At around 2:30 pm on a thursday in March of 84.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:13:29 PM EDT
i remember...it was only 5 months ago
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:21:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Searcherfortruth:
I remember. There were about 8 of us at the time, it was at the Meps center in down town MPLs MN. At around 2:30 pm on a thursday in March of 84.



I beat you there by about one year.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:24:20 PM EDT
October 1969
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:28:33 PM EDT
AFEES station, 1974.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:29:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2003 1:57:11 PM EDT by CAR-10]
Yep, I swore that one back in 1997.

In April I get to swear on this one:

I, (Full Name), having been appointed a second lieutenant in the United States Air Force, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter, SO HELP ME GOD.

It sure took me long enough.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:36:22 PM EDT
i do. although i think it has more meaning to me today than it did when it was given to me. It is done with so little meaning at a meps station that it is just another routine part of the process anymore.

Hell, i don't think 3/4 of the recruits i was with even knew what they were saying or why.


mike
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:39:22 PM EDT
Ever heard the president's version of the oath of office? There's something in there that goes like this, "I promise to support and defend the Constitution of the United States to the best of my ability...." What kinda crap is that?
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:41:52 PM EDT
I did it in Dec. 1972. To this day it is, by far, the best thing I ever did. Got me out of the dumbshit lifestyle I had at the time and gave me a career.
I think the U.S. should make it mandatory that at the age of 18 all are required to do at least one stint in any service. It would do wonders for the social problems that exsist now. Young people would be better adapted to mature and be productive, not only in there own lives, but in society as a whole.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:43:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Pale_Rider:
Ever heard the president's version of the oath of office? There's something in there that goes like this, "I promise to support and defend the Constitution of the United States to the best of my ability...." What kinda crap is that?



It isn't any kind of crap at all. It simply means what it says. To the best of my ability! Would you prefer it said, "To the worst of my capabilities?"
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:46:26 PM EDT
23JUN83 to enlist in the USMC Delayed Entry Program.
28AUG84 to accept my warrant as a Marine Option Midshipman in the NROTC Unit at the University of Michigan.
16MAY85 to enlist active duty Marine Corps after losing my scholarship.

And I STILL mean it.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:49:16 PM EDT
09 March 1982 at o-dark-thirty in one of the nastiest parts of Detroit. Guess they wanted us to get a taste of MOUT right off the bat.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 1:53:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Raynor_Schiene:

Originally Posted By Pale_Rider:
Ever heard the president's version of the oath of office? There's something in there that goes like this, "I promise to support and defend the Constitution of the United States to the best of my ability...." What kinda crap is that?



It isn't any kind of crap at all. It simply means what it says. To the best of my ability! Would you prefer it said, "To the worst of my capabilities?"



I think he's taking exception to the fact that the Pres is given an out not afforded to military personnel. We had to do it right or die trying. The President only has to try real hard.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 2:00:15 PM EDT
28 June 1981
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 2:04:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Delta_3_63:

Originally Posted By Raynor_Schiene:

Originally Posted By Pale_Rider:
Ever heard the president's version of the oath of office? There's something in there that goes like this, "I promise to support and defend the Constitution of the United States to the best of my ability...." What kinda crap is that?



It isn't any kind of crap at all. It simply means what it says. To the best of my ability! Would you prefer it said, "To the worst of my capabilities?"



I think he's taking exception to the fact that the Pres is given an out not afforded to military personnel. We had to do it right or die trying. The President only has to try real hard.



Understood. Thanks!
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 3:33:02 PM EDT
April 12, 1982 was the first time I said that under oath.

Did it once in Korea, too, administered by Captian Richard E. Bloss, the finest officer I ever served with. I forget the date but I'll never forget the sentiment, taking the oath in the shadow of North Korea.



I still consider it a sacred oath.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 3:38:27 PM EDT
did it in '75......and again in '78, and in '83, and in '89.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 3:38:46 PM EDT
For all who served and replied to this thread, God Bless every one of you. What a unique and distinct "Club" we belong to. We will forever be "Brothers".

And as far as I'm concerned, I (and I'm sure you all do too), continue to carry that Oath in our hearts until the day we die.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 3:40:29 PM EDT
Now, could someone please give me a mailing address that I can send my $20 to for a paid membership to this site? I don't use plastic.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 3:45:32 PM EDT
07NOV03--Gave me goosebumps. I also swore to obey the orders of the Governor of Missouri.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 3:47:29 PM EDT
I was 17 years old, it was all a blur.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 3:47:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2003 4:24:04 PM EDT by pale_pony]
AFEES - Oklahoma City, November 1978

I meant it then, I mean it now.


(Edited to add: I was 6'01" tall and weighed 132 lbs. A doctor gave me a quart beaker and told me to go to the water fountain, fill it up and drink it twice, don't go to the bathroom, and meet him again next to the scales to weigh-in again as soon as I was finished. The minimum weight for my height was 135 lbs and I only weighed 132! I could eat anything I wanted back then and never gained a pound - sigh- those were the days!)
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:04:19 PM EDT
15 Sept 1983 was the first time. I believe I said it again after every promotion, and I know I said it 3 more times for re-enlistments.

It sure did suck ass to say that "obey the orders of the President of the United States" part when that dishonorable shit stain Clinton was in office.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:09:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2003 4:13:00 PM EDT by 4v50]
Civil Service version in '77 for me.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:10:53 PM EDT
Yup I remember......June 1976........Coast Guard Recuiting Office Portland Maine...........Dad(Former Marine) watching proud as a ....well Marine!.........Mom watching tear in her eye as her first born son joined the service...........I was one of 3 people out of almost 300 in my High School Class the joined the service...........It was'nt very popular back then!!
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:15:24 PM EDT
November 4, 1970, Federal Building, Cleveland, Ohio. Between RA and NG service, I finally hung up the green suit in Dec,'99 - Proud to have served my Country, during the good times and bad.

Don in Ohio
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:17:27 PM EDT
1968 for me.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:27:12 PM EDT
I remember, June 1987.. seems so long ago.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:32:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 4v50:
Civil Service version in '77 for me.



Not the same thing.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:49:57 PM EDT
No, and I often regret not doing so. I did recently have to take an oath to the state of California, however. I still get dry heaves when I think about it...
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:50:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Raynor_Schiene:
I, _________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

One of the best things I ever swore to. What's cool also is, when I got discharged, I didn't have to rescind it.




Neither did I.
This child is still under oath.

I wonder what would happen if I did something to support and defend the constitution of the US thirty years later and got called for it, wouls SCOTUS defend me?

I wonder.

Maybe I was an idiot.

But maybe not.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:51:31 PM EDT

Who in here remembers doing this?



I do....

19 May 1965
Boston, Massachusetts


All except the second to last sentence still applies...


Link Posted: 11/22/2003 4:51:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Searcherfortruth:
I remember. There were about 8 of us at the time, it was at the Meps center in down town MPLs MN. At around 2:30 pm on a thursday in March of 84.



Cool, man. 29Mar1984 for me, Columbus Ohio.
On Indianola, across from the Burger King.

Link Posted: 11/22/2003 5:02:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2003 5:17:33 PM EDT by liberty86]

Originally Posted By Raynor_Schiene:
Now, could someone please give me a mailing address that I can send my $20 to for a paid membership to this site? I don't use plastic.



Ok boys, reel him in real slow now...... !!
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 5:14:07 PM EDT
Man, that's just cool. I can't wait for my opportunity.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 5:18:52 PM EDT
March of '83 at MEPPS going under DEP, Oct '83 when I started basic, '87, '91. I resigned in '93 when I had a president appointed above me who's orders I could not follow and maintain the oath that I took seriously.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 5:27:41 PM EDT
not yet
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 5:37:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By liberty86:

Who in here remembers doing this?



I do....

19 May 1965
Boston, Massachusetts


All except the second to last sentence still applies...





Very likely the same real estate I took mine in a few years later.


We prolly got a hell of a lot in common.


BTW, I look GREAT in heels. Got Betty Grable legs.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 8:33:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MK4Mod0:
Yup I remember......June 1976........Coast Guard Recuiting Office Portland Maine...........Dad(Former Marine) watching proud as a ....well Marine!.........Mom watching tear in her eye as her first born son joined the service...........I was one of 3 people out of almost 300 in my High School Class the joined the service...........It was'nt very popular back then!!


Things haven't changed much, in '99 july I was one of two who enlisted, and out of a class of around 350. They just don't care these days or they save their hate for us till they get to college, so profesors can tell them how to hate.
Fuck liberals.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 8:36:15 PM EDT
August 1985. Damn, I feel old.
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 8:55:03 PM EDT
May 1975, MEPS Station New Haven, ct.

Semper Fi
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 9:18:37 PM EDT
5Nov02 Lansing MEPPs.
I'd do it again...!
Link Posted: 11/23/2003 2:54:28 AM EDT
Sept 82
MEPS Seattle, WA
I would go again in a heartbeat if my age wasn't against me.
Link Posted: 11/23/2003 2:58:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Delta_3_63:
09 March 1982 at o-dark-thirty in one of the nastiest parts of Detroit. Guess they wanted us to get a taste of MOUT right off the bat.



Same here!

September 14 1983.
Jan 27 1993 - DoD employee.
Link Posted: 11/23/2003 2:59:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Raynor_Schiene:
Now, could someone please give me a mailing address that I can send my $20 to for a paid membership to this site? I don't use plastic.



AR15.Com LLC
P.O. Box 464
Honeoye Falls, NY 14472


Link Posted: 11/23/2003 3:12:14 AM EDT
Hell yes, December '67
"First row step forward...you are now Marines"! (I was in the 2nd row)
Had "lunch" at the Roxy grill, next to the Roxy burlesque strip joint...creamed peas on toast.
Link Posted: 11/23/2003 3:42:13 AM EDT
May 27 1991 the next day I was in Ca. bald and scaried shitless.
Thinking what the hell did I do.
Link Posted: 11/23/2003 6:14:07 AM EDT
I remember...........Oct 1984, Louisville, KY
Link Posted: 11/23/2003 6:28:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By thedr13:
I did it in Dec. 1972. To this day it is, by far, the best thing I ever did. Got me out of the dumbshit lifestyle I had at the time and gave me a career.
I think the U.S. should make it mandatory that at the age of 18 all are required to do at least one stint in any service. It would do wonders for the social problems that exsist now. Young people would be better adapted to mature and be productive, not only in there own lives, but in society as a whole.

It allways seems that if you"earn"freedom,like a Vetern,instead of having it"bestowed" upon you it means more.After you" fight for freedom",and win,NO BASTARD IS GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY without a fight.I took my"defend & protect"oath in July,1967.Figured it was going to be forever.
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