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Link Posted: 11/3/2018 10:08:04 PM EDT
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A few days ago it said they weren't selling any new plans.
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I use 4gas which for my plan uses TMobile towers. I have a yagi antennae outside on my deck that points towards the nearest cell tower. I get about 20mbps on average download. They say after 50gb they throttle you at peak times of use. Im not sure I've ever been throttled. I can watch Netflix, Hulu, etc no problem while surfing the web. I can sometimes even play online games but the connection must be the only one in my house active. Pubg works most of the time on Xbox.

They say that it's unlimited for "normal use" which means about 200gb. I can tell you I go WAY over that. Probably on the 800gb range monthly if not more.

The company is 4g antennae shop. It's 88 a month. It's pretty damn good when cable isn't an option. They seem like solid people and it's based out of Florida. Customer service and IT support rocks.
4GAS isn't selling plans anymore.
I'm on 4gas right now... What do you mean? The website still has purchase plans available.
A few days ago it said they weren't selling any new plans.
Ah ok. Scared me. I figured this gravy train would probably end sooner or later. Maybe they're just pausing to reconsolidate their business. I abuse the shit out of the unlimited aspect and have done so consistently for about a year. I've been waiting for a call that surprisingly has yet to come.

On a tangent I'm actually getting physical cable here soon. Ive been fighting Comcast and shockingly they relented. The quote went from 5800 bucks to 0 after I got ahold of the right dude. It took 18 months and a trip to a city hall meeting regarding the franchise agreement Comcast has with Olympia. I think that's the secret to dealing with Comcast. Just gotta locate someone with some actual power.

The pron is gonna flow like a river. I remember downloading 4k vids in minutes instead of hours at my old house. I wanna get back to it looking like watching people fornicate through a window hooked up to my desktop quality wise instead of slumming with fucking pornhub.
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 10:08:46 PM EDT
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We have Windstream and they sux.

What type of device are you using as a hot spot?
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Huawei e5577s-321
It’s not a USA model and doesn’t have LTE band 12
But band 5 seems to be doing the trick so far
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 10:14:42 PM EDT
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I really should have looked into the ISPs available before buying my house. I have a purpose built $1500~ gaming PC that's been just sitting for the last year due to no good internet sources available. Sad times.
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I've got the same issue. Can't download updates that are routinely 10+gb without it taking 3 straight days. It sucks ass
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 10:19:48 PM EDT
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I've got the same issue. Can't download updates that are routinely 10+gb without it taking 3 straight days. It sucks ass
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I really should have looked into the ISPs available before buying my house. I have a purpose built $1500~ gaming PC that's been just sitting for the last year due to no good internet sources available. Sad times.
I've got the same issue. Can't download updates that are routinely 10+gb without it taking 3 straight days. It sucks ass
I can do 10gb in a few hours over 4g. And like I said earlier I am able to play online games with decent results. If you have any towers near your house is really look into resellers. And an antennae does really help as well. I got a 50% speed boost with mine.
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 10:43:23 PM EDT
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All we have for internet is satellite (hack, spit) and Att so I keep up with the Att data resellers. We were with 4GAS for a while a couple years ago then Att came out with the Mobleys* and we gambled on them. What's not to like about unlimited internet for $20 a month? We got two to divide up the usage and try to stay off Att's notice. They're still working almost two years later and as it turned out we probably could have gotten by just fine with one.

The Mobley ship sailed over a year ago though.

* For those that don't know, the Mobley is an Att device that plugs into the OBDII port on your car and had unlimited internet for $20 a month. It didn't take people long to figure out how to make an adapter to use the Mobley with a 12v wall wart or you could put the sim in a hotspot. At the time it was a gamble as the Mobleys were $100 apiece plus the signup fee with Att and most thought that Att would shut that usage down but they're still going almost two years later.
Link Posted: 11/3/2018 11:53:02 PM EDT
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5G home broadband is going to be a game changer for this market.

I'm currently fighting 10mb dsl, that totally runs at about 5mb.

I am going to look into the unlimited LTE services some if you are using.  Never knew that was an option.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:15:22 AM EDT
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5G home broadband is going to be a game changer for this market.

I'm currently fighting 10mb dsl, that totally runs at about 5mb.

I am going to look into the unlimited LTE services some if you are using.  Never knew that was an option.
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I think 5g will need new devices that won’t be cheap.   And the foot print will be so small at first

Gonna be a while before 5g filters into this sub market

That’s my 2cents
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:16:51 AM EDT
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I am going to look into the unlimited LTE services some if you are using.  Never knew that was an option.
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My job here is done.  
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:19:42 AM EDT
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This is one of the reasons I would not want to live in a rural area.
Others are access to water that doesn't come from a well, electricity, cell phone towers, cable, close to stores, pizza shops, Lowe's/Home Depot, gym, etc.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 6:28:48 AM EDT
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Yeah but can you walk out your front or back door in your underwear and dump a few mags of full auto? Because I can.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 6:59:01 AM EDT
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Huawei e5577s-321
It’s not a USA model and doesn’t have LTE band 12
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What type of SIM card did you purchase at the local att store?
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 7:37:05 AM EDT
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This is one of the reasons I would not want to live in a rural area.
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I’ll take that trade in a heartbeat for being able to shoot off my back porch, take a leak in the front yard, walk out my door and start hunting, and generally do whatever else I want.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 7:44:26 AM EDT
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West TN is getting fiber from electrical CO-OP. Rural broadband grant/project. Have fiber on my pole waiting for boring crew to run and install ONT. Same price as crappy 100/MB’s
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You're in the wrong thread with the wrong people to be bitching about 100MB internet service and calling it "crappy".
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This.
The "upgraded" package here gets me 16-18.

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Yes they do.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 5:55:07 PM EDT
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This is awesome! I'm building a house in Alaska and, up until now, my only practical option was satellite. I would need three dishes and it would be expensive. This will definitely be a much more affordable option.

What are are your thoughts on the Netgear Nighthawk M1 M1100?
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 5:59:03 PM EDT
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Where can I find info on those resellers? I am stuck with satellite internet our here in the country too.
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Same here. We have Wi-Power satellite internet. It's not bad, but it does a lot of buffering, and sometimes it's no faster than a glacier.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 8:52:18 PM EDT
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This mifi takes a standard sized sim

Just asked for a standard size.

Your will vary  based on your mifi

Some are standard
Some are micros
And some are Nano sized
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 8:54:22 PM EDT
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This is awesome! I'm building a house in Alaska and, up until now, my only practical option was satellite. I would need three dishes and it would be expensive. This will definitely be a much more affordable option.

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I’m buying that next

I see some on eBay for 130

That’s seems to be the best one out there so far.

Has bands 2 4 5 7 12 17 66
And carrier aggregation

So I expect good things from it
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 8:54:35 PM EDT
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I am currently in this sittuation and have the same satullite internet at my house. On 10mbps.

Please goto more detail please. What do you mean an att reseller? You bought a new cell phone plan and truned it into a hotspot?
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:05:38 PM EDT
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I live in rural KY on a 800 acre farm and I just made the jump from 7mbs dsl to gig fiber.  Have fun peasants.  
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I might laugh if you step in some poop tomorrow.    I have DSL.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:10:13 PM EDT
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I am currently in this sittuation and have the same satullite internet at my house. On 10mbps.

Please goto more detail please. What do you mean an att reseller? You bought a new cell phone plan and truned it into a hotspot?
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http://www.otrmobile.com
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:13:50 PM EDT
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Tagging this thread.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:19:35 PM EDT
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This is relevant to my interests (and sanity).
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:25:10 PM EDT
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Verizon slows you down on unlimited (  shut up grandfathered plan master race ).  After 22 gb
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They throttle grandfathered plans too. Mine was unusable. Dropped Verizon and never looked back. (I wasn't using mine as a hub either, just casual use.)
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:28:41 PM EDT
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You're lucky enough to have a cell signal.

We have zero options available other than satellite.

But I wouldn't trade it for the city.  I love it in the sticks.  Takes 5 minutes to drive to the nearest neighbors house.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:30:13 PM EDT
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A couple of friends here have ViaSat satellite.  They like it.  I don't know how it differs from Hughes net.

I currently have DSL.  Re ated at 7Mbps, the highest I have ever seen is 5.  Usually its 1.5 and recently 0.8 for a good portion of the evening.  Terrible WAF.
All of my neighbors have cable, the cable is on the street 8n front of my house, but I'm apparently too far from the street.  I've been trying to find out costs to bring it the 400feet to by house since Narch and an getting no where.

I'm pulling out my hair.  The DSL company has no plans to run fiber here.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:39:11 PM EDT
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I’ll take that trade in a heartbeat for being able to shoot off my back porch, take a leak in the front yard, walk out my door and start hunting, and generally do whatever else I want.
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This is one of the reasons I would not want to live in a rural area.
Others are access to water that doesn't come from a well, electricity, cell phone towers, cable, close to stores, pizza shops, Lowe's/Home Depot, gym, etc.
I’ll take that trade in a heartbeat for being able to shoot off my back porch, take a leak in the front yard, walk out my door and start hunting, and generally do whatever else I want.
Same for me. Add in I don't have to listen to anyone's "shared music", no HOA, I can see the stars, I smell nature. Things like that matter much more to me than internet speed.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:44:55 PM EDT
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I use 4gas, it works well, normally 25-30 mbps down which is good for everything other than 4k and large downloads. Ms is good for gaming, around 70-80 in everything I play.

Most of the plan resellers mysteriously disappear after a while and with little to no notice. 4gas has been in the game a relatively long time so I view them as "safe", even though they cost a bit more for the same plan. I've never been throttled.

I think 5g will one day be the savior of rural internet but it might take a while. I doubt we'll get the urban version that needs loads of transmitters and 1 gig speeds with 2 ms anytime soon, but we might get something. The highest cell tower in the county is on my property so hopefully I'll have it early on when it comes.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:52:59 PM EDT
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There's very little good access where we just built.

DSL and cable have been unavailable. The phone company said they could offer 1Mbps.

I'm signed up with a wireless dish-to-tower provider on their 15Mbps plan, averaging 1-3Mbps on speed tests. The receiver installer was dead-set on drilling a hole in my bedroom wall to put their router in there. I specifically had a plastic conduit run from the attic to the basement, where all the rooms' cat6 cables terminate. He said he was worried about wifi signal. I very clearly explained that I didn't care about their wifi and only wanted their modem in my basement.

I stopped the guy again when he had a drill with boring bit in my bedroom. At that point, I called customer service to talk to his supervisor. He finally just ran the antenna cable in a roof vent and fished it down the dedicated low voltage conduit.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:58:19 PM EDT
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You're lucky enough to have a cell signal.

We have zero options available other than satellite.

But I wouldn't trade it for the city.  I love it in the sticks.  Takes 5 minutes to drive to the nearest neighbors house.
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Same here.  No cell signal, no cables in the ground = satellite or phone line internet.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 10:49:59 PM EDT
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The air force awarded them $0.00 dollars, so don't hold your breath.  They will have to use all cashflows to support the rocket business and the sats will get whatever scraps are leftover.

Link Posted: 11/5/2018 7:17:04 AM EDT
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The air force awarded them $0.00 dollars, so don't hold your breath.  They will have to use all cashflows to support the rocket business and the sats will get whatever scraps are leftover.

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A $500 Million loan will help
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 7:28:05 AM EDT
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I was going to start a thread asking about this. Thanks OP

I was wondering if the Mofi4500 is actually worth $330.


I like that I can add outside antennas and have a wired home network with it.

I have a couple years before I actually move in so maybe 5G will be going by then? In the meantime I will just tether off my phone.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 7:50:31 AM EDT
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ATT has a solution for rural areas that will be implemented.

AT&T AirGig
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 8:05:50 AM EDT
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Stopped by my sisters house to visit after a few hours I turned on the tv And logged into my netflix and shit was buffering a lot

I asked who she had for internet and why it’s so bad.

She said there are no options out there

This is what she has https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/437400/F2C67570-EF77-491C-9F00-30F1BB078883-726814.jpg

Did a little research and found an ATT reseller that has no throttling and unlimited data for 60 bucks.    I was bored so I ran to the att store and bought a sim and pulled out an old mifi from my car and ordered the reseller service

Gonna post results after the weekend in case this can help anyone else out there

Old (current) Internet
7mps with trees in the way of line of sight.  she doesn’t get that because of the damn trees she says

New service (att reseller with no slow down after a certain limit ..   so they say I’m about to find out this weekend )
Old att mifi gets 35mb :-)
So far no more buffering

My BIL is overwhelmed with joy as he had given up on good internet service at his house with horses and cows .

They are currently bing watching Netflix and it has not buffered once

So I know the bandwidth is there.    Let’s see what happens on Monday after weekend full of streaming

Crossing my fingers this service works out

I know you can use your regular data as a hotspot.  The point of this thread is this company says no slow downs and no de-
Prioritized data After XX gbs of data

I’m excited
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Taggage, this is relevant to my interests.

LC
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:20:35 AM EDT
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Satellite internet is always going to be rough, particularly on the upload. There's no way you can get around the latency problem either for the most part unless you're close to the hub.

If you guys that are having issues with your satellite internet aren't getting close to your advertised speeds you should try to get a tech out and try to do a peak/pol on the system again to make sure it hasn't gotten out of alignment.  All the satellite internet dishes I've seen are pretty small aperture and low power so when you combine that with whatever the provider is throttling you at on the satellite performance is pretty *meh*.

If you don't have fiber, cable, xDSL, sometimes there are places that will do a point to point shot to your house. If not trying to figure out who has the best 4G/LTE coverage where you are and setting up a hotspot on unlimited is probably your best bet. Even then those get throttled at some point.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:30:54 AM EDT
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What’s a better option when your provider doesn’t count Netflix toward your 18GB data limit?
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Not supporting a liberal company, not helping to pay for Susan Rice, Øbamas and anti gun crap?
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:34:06 AM EDT
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This is one of the reasons I would not want to live in a rural area.
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City dudes?
Shoot in my backyard. Shoot in my front yard. No neighbors within 1/4 mile. Pee in the yard. Love it.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:41:54 AM EDT
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I was going to start a thread asking about this. Thanks OP

I was wondering if the Mofi4500 is actually worth $330.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41n76JFNaOL._SX425_.jpg

I like that I can add outside antennas and have a wired home network with it.

I have a couple years before I actually move in so maybe 5G will be going by then? In the meantime I will just tether off my phone.
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I wonder if that's any better than this one, that I use? mine is a lot cheaper and keeps the same speeds as my at&t work phone on 4g.

I wish it could get Verizon speeds though. My Verizon personal phone gets around 75 mbps at the house, despite the Verizon tower being slightly further away.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:48:38 AM EDT
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Stopped by my sisters house to visit after a few hours I turned on the tv And logged into my netflix and shit was buffering a lot

I asked who she had for internet and why it’s so bad.

She said there are no options out there

This is what she has https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/437400/F2C67570-EF77-491C-9F00-30F1BB078883-726814.jpg

Did a little research and found an ATT reseller that has no throttling and unlimited data for 60 bucks.    I was bored so I ran to the att store and bought a sim and pulled out an old mifi from my car and ordered the reseller service

Gonna post results after the weekend in case this can help anyone else out there

Old (current) Internet
7mps with trees in the way of line of sight.  she doesn’t get that because of the damn trees she says

New service (att reseller with no slow down after a certain limit ..   so they say I’m about to find out this weekend )
Old att mifi gets 35mb :-)
So far no more buffering

My BIL is overwhelmed with joy as he had given up on good internet service at his house with horses and cows .

They are currently bing watching Netflix and it has not buffered once

So I know the bandwidth is there.    Let’s see what happens on Monday after weekend full of streaming

Crossing my fingers this service works out

I know you can use your regular data as a hotspot.  The point of this thread is this company says no slow downs and no de-
Prioritized data After XX gbs of data

I’m excited
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What about for those of us with no cellular service in our area?
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:51:56 AM EDT
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In a couple years, Starlink (SpaceX) will be the way to go.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:54:23 AM EDT
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For those looking for options, check out a WISP map and see if there is anything around you.  I found 2 services that covered my house, one was shitty, the other has been great.  Good enough to allow several devices and to watch movies.
I just did a speed test and it was showing 28 mbps download/13 mbps upload.  I know that's not great but its enough to allow me and the wife to work from home which is in rural SW Oklahoma.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:56:08 AM EDT
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I use a tethered AT&T phone with unlimited data at my place in Missouri. 40 minutes from any town with a population over 1,000 and I get 15mbps down and 2 up on LTE.

If you’re far enough out where you don’t get cable or DSL then your stuck with cellular, WISP if available or satellite. Satellite internet is expensive and terrible so I’d look into WISP networks or figure out which cell carrier has decent data service there.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:57:27 AM EDT
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Isn’t that just going to be satellite? Upload speeds are the killer with sat based internet.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 9:59:42 AM EDT
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WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY!?  I NEED THIS!

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Most carriers either severely restrict data on mifi type devices or charge ungodly amounts for adequate data limits. Tethering through a jailbreak or rooted phone is a much better value.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 10:00:26 AM EDT
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Supposedly Elon's muskmagic is supposed to make it low latency and high throughput. I dont know how or if I believe it. I think 5g and airgig are better solutions and hopefully we see them in the next few years.

I cannot imagine going through school nowadays as a kid without internet.
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Dumb question, but the devices they sell mention battery life of 10 hours or so with a charger included. Can you not leave the wifi device plugged in to negate the worry of battery running down?

Is the connection always up? As in, I don’t have to reconnect multiple times a day?
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Yes to both questions.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 10:02:07 AM EDT
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Isn't that just going to be satellite? Upload speeds are the killer with sat based internet.
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It will be a massive low earth orbit constellation vs a handful of satellites in geostationary orbit like we have currently.  This should take care of upload speed and latency issues.

There are a couple other companies working on LEO satellite internet constellations as well.  Competition is a good thing
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I went from no internet to using an attt data reseller and it worked great.
How long you been with them and what’s your avg data for the month?
I was only with them three months until I got a company to run a line to our house.

I can't remember how much data I used but me and the wife watched Netflix every night. The problem with using 4g internet at the house is that the speed can change depending on the tower load even if you haven't been de-prioritized. My speeds ranged from ~7 to to 50 mbps.

Plus I was paying $90 a month. My hardline internet actually goes out more though and is generally slower, but it's cheaper and still lets me stream.

I used these guys in east Texas- http://www.izoom4u.com/ I think their prices may have gone up.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 10:05:18 AM EDT
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It uses a bunch of Satellites in low Earth orbit vs. Geostationary orbit. LEO = 500 miles away, GEO = 30,000 miles away. This is where the latency issues come from.

Latency over large areas will actually be lower than the current fiber system, so the system may end up performing a large chunk of internet backhaul.

Here's a video simulation of how the system would work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdKNCBrkZQ4
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 10:05:26 AM EDT
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I've got the same issue. Can't download updates that are routinely 10+gb without it taking 3 straight days. It sucks ass
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I really should have looked into the ISPs available before buying my house. I have a purpose built $1500~ gaming PC that's been just sitting for the last year due to no good internet sources available. Sad times.
I've got the same issue. Can't download updates that are routinely 10+gb without it taking 3 straight days. It sucks ass
I work with a guy who drags his PCs into work to download updates.
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