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Posted: 10/12/2018 11:53:21 PM EDT
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Wait until you experience a good quality thermal scope.  |
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Posted: 10/12/2018 11:53:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nods? |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:00:04 AM EDT
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BAE UTMx ^ at around 900 yds Alligator in Georgetown with UTMx 
PVS-31a Ft Moultrie 
Ravenel Bridge 
 Currahee Mountain with PVS-31a  L3 PVS-31a with Because Operator cam on ATV showing image at 88% Waxing Gibbous |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:00:11 AM EDT
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Thermals are witchcraft
I laughed for DAYS We nit pick guns "AR vs AK vs whatever" That's irrelevant compared to night vision Some asshole with PVS-14 and a Mosin is automatically more dangerous than 87% of people 50% of the time |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:07:24 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:08:00 AM EDT
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 Shooting suppressed with night vision BamaJr shooting my LWRC 12.7" with YHM Ti Phantom and IR laser at 60 yards, Gen3 nods Omni VII |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:08:49 AM EDT
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I sleep at night like normal people.
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:12:04 AM EDT
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Best I have right now is Gen 2. It’s an ATN 4x, before they rebranded. Works, but the focal plane is really shallow and I end up spending a lot of time fucking with the focus.
But... I have a big bonus check coming in on Monday that I’ve not decided what I’m going to do with yet. I’m going shopping for Gen 3 helmet-mounted binge tonight and see what I think :). Here’s a pic through my ATN. The reticle is turned off, and the truck is parked two houses down in my lightless subdivision.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:13:55 AM EDT
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I filmed this with my iphone through the UTMx, so it does look off. I have some incredible video of fire dancers with the thermal, still trying to edit them.
 Fire Dancers through BAE thermal  Stumphouse Tunnel Walhalla SC PVS-31a  PVS-31a with Because Operator cam  KAC PVS 30 & S&B Short Dot |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:15:56 AM EDT
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I sleep at night like normal people.  Whodini - Freaks Come Out at Night |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:28:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Y dis be? |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:34:09 AM EDT
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Super over rated. A good white light is a fraction of the cost and just as effective. 
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:36:42 AM EDT
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Ummmmmmmm no... but it’s your life. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Super over rated. A good white light is a fraction of the cost and just as effective. 
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:36:53 AM EDT
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> mfw people make fun of EoTech giraffe setups
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:37:46 AM EDT
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Typical gd reply. I bought this in the Alley. Incirlik turkey in 93. Its iranian hand woven 12x3. Been walked on for 25 years. Cats love the tassles...well what used to be. I bought numerous pe4sians and smuggled em in my travel pod. No customs in my Viper. They were gifts for my late wife Regina who passed 8 months ago in a lot of pain. She was 54. She loved her rugs. I have a place that can repair to new. I like it like this. 25 years with the family. If u meant it asan insult...fufi you. If it was in good spiritthen... . Never can tell here. Ive gotta get back to stalking |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:38:31 AM EDT
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Quoted: Id like to see high end thermal vision https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20181003_230511-693452.jpg |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:39:00 AM EDT
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I own both a 7 and a 14 and have owned / used others. My limited take: 7 is the shit for stationary observation, especially with a 3x / 5x (I forget, there's a bigger one) slapped on there. 7 is good for limited mobile operations where you don't do much but walk in the open and watch way ahead. 7 is horrible for if you need to look down at something / look back up, or if you need to make sure it isn't bright enough to see you occasionally. 14 is horrible for stationary observation. Very narrow field of view on both, but it really shows with single tube. 14 is better if you need to look down at something / look back up, or if you need to make sure it isn't bright enough to see you occasionally. (use a nav light and use the other eye. In the woods highly highly consider clear specs, you're gonna catch a branch eventually) 14 is the shit for limited mobile operations where you don't do much but walk in the open and watch way ahead. I've driven on hardball with both; it's kind of a wash depending on the vehicle and road conditions. PROBABLY safer with the 14. Inside a house, or where there are trip/fall hazards, or where people are really waiting to kill you... white light saves the day unless you got those pano tubes and got a LOT of hours on night vision. It's like looking through a toilet paper tube, seriously. Your neck is getting leg day, no question... |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:39:17 AM EDT
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Who says money can't buy happiness? Too bad I'm poor   #metoo
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:54:50 AM EDT
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In before JohnBurns says nobody used those things and just get a D cell maglite instead.
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Posted: 10/13/2018 12:59:09 AM EDT
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$400 for housing, 200-400 for tube. you can afford this.
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Posted: 10/13/2018 1:04:29 AM EDT
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In before JohnBurns says nobody used those things and just get a D cell maglite instead. |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 1:14:25 AM EDT
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Just came in from a couple of miles of walking on my farm with a buddy, it’s awesome and pig down.
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Posted: 10/13/2018 1:20:02 AM EDT
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Now that your bank account is depleted let me drive another nail in the coffin:
FLIR You're welcome |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 1:26:58 AM EDT
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Here is myb.v current pig setup. Pvs15 and tnvc sentinels in wp. Pvs14 green gen3 Rifles are lwrc 6.8 ann 300blk. 6.8 has trijicon reap ir. Pairedwith dbal d2. 300 has flir mq50 with a mawl c1+. Carry a flir pts233 around neck for long range detection. Sittin out on a field as i type https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126579/20180913_115129_jpg-703039.JPG |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 1:42:30 AM EDT
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Just came in from a couple of miles of walking on my farm with a buddy, it's awesome and pig down.  so far none for me. Lots of deer and yotes. Pigs usually show up about 0100 to 0600
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Posted: 10/13/2018 1:44:03 AM EDT
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Just came in from a couple of miles of walking on my farm with a buddy, it’s awesome and pig down. PVS-14s
A couple days ago I was out by myself and distinctly heard other human/s but sound carries a long way out there at night especially when still, still a bit freaky when you are way out in the boonies. |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 1:45:39 AM EDT
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I don't even take my WP 14 out hunting anymore. Thermal destroys it. Though for overall utility I'll take NV. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Id like to see high end thermal vision https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20181003_230511-693452.jpg |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 1:46:28 AM EDT
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yes, NV felt like manic, till I saw the world through thermals.
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Posted: 10/13/2018 1:50:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're a wizard! |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 2:34:53 AM EDT
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Damn gd. Its a nv thread...NIGHT! Hell its only 0130 tx time. Pigs should start coming out of the mesquite to the fields. Wake up
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Posted: 10/13/2018 2:46:04 AM EDT
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Well whack one of them bastards for me, I hate them as much as I do coyotes
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Posted: 10/13/2018 2:52:43 AM EDT
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Well whack one of them bastards for me, I hate them as much as I do coyotes  . Its still a blast
Just pulled up to a new field...my 150 does ok in the muck. Not like my cj7 with dual arb lockers Driving totally blacked out is pretty sweet  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 3:09:52 AM EDT
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What part of the state are you in? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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G3 NV is one of those things I wish I had gotten into years earlier. Ridiculous amounts of fun, and extremely useful for coyote hunting (wish all my hunting buddies hadn't moved away though ).
Moonless night cell phone potato pic. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/236039/20150623_214104_jpg-703124.JPG Salt Lake County ETA: I get all over the state to hunt though. |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 3:11:52 AM EDT
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We don't have hogs in NM per se but we can't even hunt coyotes at night. I'm not sure if it's at night or with artificial light, either way Game & Fish frowns on it, but I still want NODS soooo bad.
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Posted: 10/13/2018 3:14:07 AM EDT
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Not when the dr8zzle and fog roll in. I have thermal and ir illum/laser on both rifles. I fing wp nods and mawl or dbal d2 t9 be a little better under shit weather. |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 3:35:29 AM EDT
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Im workin on it. I have access to about 12 fields and 20k acres. It rained 10 inches in the last 5 weeks. The wheat fields are swamps now. Fuckin cows that lay down look just like hogs. Ive slogged about 2 miles so far in this crap 9nly t9 id them as cows . Its still a blast
Just pulled up to a new field...my 150 does ok in the muck. Not like my cj7 with dual arb lockers Driving totally blacked out is pretty sweet https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/126579/20181013_014559_jpg-703332.JPG |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 3:35:44 AM EDT
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I have a gen 3 pvs14 and am getting a helmet from Hard Head Veterans. What mount do you recommend for the pvs14. I know Wilcox makes nice stuff. Also want to start with a Steiner dbal a3 or an l3 insight ATPIAL C. Any preference between the two?
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Posted: 10/13/2018 3:44:09 AM EDT
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I have a gen 3 pvs14 and am getting a helmet from Hard Head Veterans. What mount do you recommend for the pvs14. I know Wilcox makes nice stuff. Also want to start with a Steiner dbal a3 or an l3 insight ATPIAL C. Any preference between the two? I have one and a Wilcox and they're both great, but you can get the Rhino for much less. |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 3:46:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice truck. 5.0? |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 3:48:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: If shit goes sideways and you’re moving at night to save your life, do you want a bright light that gives your position away, or do you want to move as stealthily as possible? I was simply trying to convey that a point can be argued without being so overly dramatic. Let’s leave the exaggerated theatrics to liberals and leftists. The inference that not possessing NV, is a significant gamble with one’s life is...well...silly. Quoted:
you mean, like some disaster, like, say a hurricane, where large areas are out of power? and say, there might be looters out? so, let's say you hear some bumps in the night, and other strange things occuring. are you going outside, shining a bright flashlight? or would you go out with nvds, and creep around, to find out who is out there? |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 3:49:32 AM EDT
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I have a gen 3 pvs14 and am getting a helmet from Hard Head Veterans. What mount do you recommend for the pvs14. I know Wilcox makes nice stuff. Also want to start with a Steiner dbal a3 or an l3 insight ATPIAL C. Any preference between the two? This setup is 6 bills if new. I got all 3 of my g24s on ee |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 4:00:57 AM EDT
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G24 wilcox with the powered j arm is rock solid. My 14 has this. Its on a opscore bump This setup is 6 bills if new. I got all 3 of my g24s on ee |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 4:51:52 AM EDT
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Just rolled up on 6. Rain storm. Pts233 not showing detail but these guys are 150m and the heat really shows. Time to get wet. Already covered in mud. Wtf..
Eta...this is my cell held up to the pts233 . Will be using the xq50 pulsar inside 100m. W8nds are favorable  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 4:58:10 AM EDT
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i havent seen any of the new fangled stuff only seen 7b's and 14's.
and they were kind of underwhelming. have been thinking about getting some but man thats a huge investment. some of the shit ive seen in the last year or two seem pretty revolutionary. |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 5:47:51 AM EDT
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I want NV but don’t know anyone local with it & refuse to order anything online, sight unseen for $3,000 for openers... 
Plus I’ve been spending my extra cash on training lately... got a 700 yard class tomorrow... after which I told instructor I need to be able to shoot rope off a mans neck... and then I need the government to go back to hangings so I can supplement my income that way.
http://www.winwallpapers.net/w1/2013/09/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-wallpapers-8.png Just got back from a little night stroll and stargazing on the beach actually. Meteors and nocturnal birds/bats were quite active tonight. That's really all I use it for, I'm not a hunter. Although I justified it to myself as a SHTF tool. Anywho, some pics (not taken tonight), held really old and cheap canon pocket digital camera up to the mono. Grain is from the camera, not the NODs 
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Posted: 10/13/2018 5:49:01 AM EDT
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Ok. Just got a double from the sounder in the flir pic 2 posts above. Stalked to 80 m on the first shot. They started getting nervous. First was a neck shot just bdhind the ear. Dropped there. The rest bolted and shot the smaller one on the full out run...est 125m. Also dropped right there. 0415 were the shots. Tall grass and weeds made finding them a tad the pain in the ass. Water logged grass field actually cleaned the 20lbs of mud off my legs...3 more hrs of dark
4 more loins in the freezer for the carne adovada.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/13/2018 7:14:23 AM EDT
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BTW, this is the WP PVS-14 in my pictures. The guys at TNVC are great to work with. TNV/PVS-14 L3 Gen3 OMNI VIII White Phosphor (Thin-Filmed)
Do they offer returns if there is no coup/civil war/TEOTWAKI in certain number of years?
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Posted: 10/13/2018 7:17:23 AM EDT
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Wait until you get a chance to shoot a gunz with an IR laser. Point-n-click MaJicK. Then check out a thermal unit. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57642/SBR___NVDs_jpg-703033.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/57642/20161211_025248783_iOS_jpg-703035.JPG
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Posted: 10/13/2018 7:27:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2018 7:32:00 AM EDT
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Super over rated. A good white light is a fraction of the cost and just as effective. |
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