From that leftist media outlet: www.foxnews.com

"I've not been phony here, I've not been artificial on the program," he said. "I was all of that elsewhere." He did not elaborate… He also said, "there is a whole lot of stuff I can tell you… that I can't tell you yet." He said it's not because he's afraid, adding, "There's even more honesty to come."

So you can’t reveal this “stuff” to your audience yet?  Why?  

They won’t be able to handle so much spin-free, unadulterated, raw honesty in one serving?  Is it because they’re too stupid Rush?  Or is the truth so horrible that any reasonable person would feel so betrayed by year upon year of hypocrisy and lies that they’d be compelled to turn their AM radios left (to the OFF position)?

Maybe there are varying levels of honesty Rush – was honesty a topic often covered during your time in “Pajama Land”?  I bet it was.  Maybe that there’s honesty , and then there’s the addict’s honesty ?  Hmmm?

Well, which version are you telling your loyal listeners now Rush?


Hypocrisy in anything whatever may deceive the cleverest and most penetrating man, but the least wide-awake of children recognizes it, and is revolted by it, however ingeniously it may be disguised. - Tolstoy

Wow. A staff member is a fellow heretic!

Guess Imbroglio and the rest of the Coalition will be flooded with new members as this site is abandoned due to being too "neo-con".


Edited to add: Hey Dolomite, ever think that maybe the police are after the suppliers, and that Rush is helping, and that to say anything now might jeopardize the investigation?

Guess not....

Quoted:He was initially prescribed the medication(s) for pain SUBSEQUENT TO SPINAL SURGERY and, presumably, lost control at some point.

 So you're telling me that you didn't see the irony in Sarah Brady doing a straw purchase for her adult son.

Quoted:Edited to add: Hey Dolomite, ever think that maybe the police are after the suppliers, and that Rush is helping, and that to say anything now might jeopardize the investigation? Guess not....

No - I can honestly say I hadn't thought of that scenario!  Wow - I'll hush up now so that the forces of good can get back to work cleaning up the drug problem in Southern Florida!

(Do you think Rush has a badge?  No, no, no - he's probably working "undercover" - a "double naught spy" if you will)

Quoted: So you're telling me that you didn't see the irony in Sarah Brady doing a straw purchase for her adult son.

The irony in Sarah's case is that she knows what she is doing is not only against what she preaches LOUDLY on a daily basis, but it's also ILLEGAL and DANGEROUS, and she knows this BEFORE she does it and DOES IT ANYWAY.

THAT is hypocrisy...

Another great (and super-secret) narco-enforcement team:

Quoted: Quoted:Edited to add: Hey Dolomite, ever think that maybe the police are after the suppliers, and that Rush is helping, and that to say anything now might jeopardize the investigation? Guess not.... No - I can honestly say I hadn't thought of that scenario!  Wow - I'll hush up now so that the forces of good can get back to work cleaning up the drug problem in Southern Florida! (Do you think Rush has a badge?  No, no, no - he's probably working "undercover" - a "double naught spy" if you will)

I hope the cops in Wisconsin never have to rely on you for information to bust some bad guys. You'll be out on a street corner shouting it from the top of your lungs, right?

Originally Posted By Albert Farina (The chop shop operator in Heat): "Wheah's yo empathy, brothah? It's a substance abuse problem!

Quoted: Rush is a hypocrite and should lose his job and any public status he formerly enjoyed.

I am sorry to hear of the problems you father had.  It's unfortunate you can't tell the difference between somebody that abuses drugs for fun from somebody that gets hooked on pain pills due to pain.  Rush always condemned the former, his position on the latter is unclear.  

How ironic that you call Ruch a hypocrite for being addicted to medication prescribed to him.  I hope you don't call your Dad a hypocrite for exchanging one addiction for another.  

OK… I’m sorry – I’ll stop referencing any of Rush’s potential undercover involvement with any secret drug enforcement investigation…






…right after I point out that the last person that should be looked at during an illegal drug smuggling operation is the one that lives in a $24 million oceanfront mansion down in Southern Florida.  That’s where I would look last for any type of illegal drug involvement: oceanfront mansions in southern Florida.  No history of drugs there – nope – I would not even waste my time snooping around southern Florida whatsoever.  No sir.

Quoted: Quoted: quote]  So you're telling me that you didn't see the irony in Sarah Brady doing a straw purchase for her adult son. Sarah gives me wood !   rbad.ar15.com/sara3.jpg rbad.ar15.com/sarah2.jpg rbad.ar15.com/sarah.jpg

Might I suggest, if we find these humerous, that we're no better than the people who make fun of Reagan's current condition...

I hate the bitch, but I can't find myself happy at her condition. I did once, but I've learned a few things since then.

Just some food for thought...

Quoted: OK… I’m sorry – I’ll stop referencing any of Rush’s potential undercover involvement with any secret drug enforcement investigation… …right after I point out that the last person that should be looked at during an illegal drug smuggling operation is the one that lives in a $24 million oceanfront mansion down in Southern Florida.  That’s where I would look last for any type of illegal drug involvement: oceanfront mansions in southern Florida.  No history of drugs there – nope – I would not even waste my time snooping around southern Florida whatsoever.  No sir.

All I'm saying is that you should keep your yap shut until you know ALL the facts.

Or are you going to start a thread here telling us all about YOUR private life?

As for the $24 million mansion, everyone knows where that mansion came from. He has papers to prove it. You sound like one of those losers on DUh who are jealous of his success.

I suspect you're better than that...

Shhh...

Quoted: Shhh...

[chuckle] Okay, okay. I promise I won't tell anyone else!

Rush Is Back!

I wish Rush all the best. I hope he never touches the stuff again.
But............


I have a real bad 'feeling' Rush will fall off his horse soon.

Quoted: Might I suggest, if we find these humerous, that we're no better than the people who make fun of Reagan's current condition... I hate the bitch, but I can't find myself happy at her condition. I did once, but I've learned a few things since then. Just some food for thought...

Well said.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I love how we're supposed to suddenly feel sorry for addicts.  6 monts ago addicts were the weak-willed scum of the earth, but now because one of your idols has fallen it's all sympathy and "its an illness".  What a crock. I love how you assume to know the views of all rush fans. I can't help it, you guys just keep proving me right.  Look at this very thread.  Or for that matter, ANY thread that comes up about Rush.

Ok I've reviewed this thread and a few other Rush ones and I still haven't found where 6 months ago all rush fans believed prescription drug addicts were the weak-willed scum of the earth. But then again I don't claim to know all the views of the 20,000,000 + Rush fans.

Quoted: Quoted: Bill has a gambling problem. Rush got addicted to pain killers after back surgery. Does that mean that their message and contribution to conservatism mean any less?   Certain parts of conservatisim are problematic in the first place.  Ergo, they deny basic human nature and instincts, and often criminalize such behavior.  I giggle a little at the folly, when some of the largest salesmen of laws governing behavior X get caught engaged in X themselves.  Physican, heal thyself!  They dance as well as a liberal (cough, NEA Puppet, cough) politican does when asked why he sends his kids to elite private schools. Apart from fiscal policy, liberals and conservatives very much agree on the method by which government is applied, in that they both want to use it to dictate the behavior of citizens.  They disagree on the desired behaviors, but agree on the method.

rush never spent a lot of time on drug addiction except on d. strawberry - i see the red-face of embarrasment on that one.
his problem doesn't negate the accuracy of his statements and beliefs.
guess what?  Tha man is HUMAN - as we all are.

he slings a lot of verbal mud and gets it in return.  and, he acknowledges it comes with the territory.
AND, as a conservative. i don't have much common ground on how gov't is applied, with a liberal.  
spineless politicians do.  not true conservatives.
 

Quoted: Quoted:Edited to add: Hey Dolomite, ever think that maybe the police are after the suppliers, and that Rush is helping, and that to say anything now might jeopardize the investigation? Guess not.... No - I can honestly say I hadn't thought of that scenario!  Wow - I'll hush up now so that the forces of good can get back to work cleaning up the drug problem in Southern Florida! (Do you think Rush has a badge?  No, no, no - he's probably working "undercover" - a "double naught spy" if you will)

Now this post truly illustrates your ignorance. Zaphod was not trying to imply Rush was working undercover for the authorities.

At the risk of educating you, let me tell you how this works. Prosecuters routinely offer people in trouble deals for information leading to the arrest of major criminals (like drug dealers). Now in all probability Rush knows where he got the prescription drugs he was taking and therefore he has valuable information that a prosecuter would be interested in. In this way Rush is helping in their investigation. This stuff happens all the time in our legal system.

And if you actually read, or listened to, the news stories you would have heard the authorities in Florida always said that Rush was never the target of the investigation.

Quoted: Quoted: It's almost as good as Bill Bennet getting outed as a gambling fiend!   Bill has a gambling problem. Rush got addicted to pain killers after back surgery. Does that mean that their message and contribution to conservatism mean any less?

I think it comes under the heading 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone.'

Now it seems to me I've heard Rush cast lots of stones.

Disappointing.

You mention that perhaps Rush is helping in the investigation after getting busted for said drugs!!!!!! We in Mexico have a name for that..........RAT He does the crime but does'nt want to do the time! Usually south of the border we know how to deal with his kind. first you gut his fat bloated stomach and let the Tripe spill out. Then you hang him by his feet on the nearest telephone pole with the words "informer" written on a piece of paper jammed into his mouth.    

Wow - reading through this thread it's not always entirely clear I'm on AR15 and not the DUng.

There are some incredibly small minded, mean spirited people in here. Ugh.

Quoted: Quoted: It's almost as good as Bill Bennet getting outed as a gambling fiend!   Bill has a gambling problem. Rush got addicted to pain killers after back surgery. Does that mean that their message and contribution to conservatism mean any less?

If you think either one of them is "conservative", then I've got a new education dept., and an AWB renewal for ya...

Quoted: Quoted: Bill has a gambling problem. Rush got addicted to pain killers after back surgery. Does that mean that their message and contribution to conservatism mean any less?   Certain parts of conservatisim are problematic in the first place.  Ergo, they deny basic human nature and instincts, and often criminalize such behavior.  I giggle a little at the folly, when some of the largest salesmen of laws governing behavior X get caught engaged in X themselves.  Physican, heal thyself!  They dance as well as a liberal (cough, NEA Puppet, cough) politican does when asked why he sends his kids to elite private schools. Apart from fiscal policy, liberals and conservatives very much agree on the method by which government is applied, in that they both want to use it to dictate the behavior of citizens.  They disagree on the desired behaviors, but agree on the method.

While I agree with your thesis, I disagree with your labels...

You are NOT talking about Conservatives. You are talking about "Neo-cons"......
They'd be the wannabees............

Quoted: Anyone who doesn't understand the essential difference between President Reagan and Jimmy Carter, or between President George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, shouldn't be trusted with a sharp object! Much less the RKBA! Eric The(Sassier'nHades)Hun

'scuse me Mr. sassy....

Are you saying GWB, (Mr. re-authorize the AWB), should be trusted with RKBA???  

OR, his Attorney General, Mr., (reasonable restrictions), Ashcroft???      


D' y'all down there in Texas know how to READ???




What part of "Shall not be infringed", do y'all NOT understand???
"Conservative"?????



Not Yesterday, today, OR tomorrowy!!!  

Quoted: Quoted: the parts in red answer the question in blue. OH! I see! GWB is massively expanding government and instituting national health care and prescription drugs all because Rush was hooked on drugs. This in spite of the fact that GWB proposed his ideas two years before Rush made his addiction known! WOW! Not only is GWB clairvoiant, but he's SO enamoured of Rush that he's willing to put in a multi-billion dollar program just to serve him! Can you say[/blue ? Where do you people come up with these "ideas"?

Can YOU say wacko zaphod??

YOU just admitted, the "CONSERVATIVE" president YOU, (and the other Neo-cons), support, is a FVCKING SOCIALIST!!!



Nice play....

The fact is I dont think the current situation has changed anyones minds....

Those who hate rush still hate him
Those that love rush still love him

Myself If I want to hear some amusing talk radio Ill listin to DR Laura or Savage Nation

I knew it wouldn't take long for the whacko-cons to show up....

Fascinating...the same people who hate RUSH also marched against the war a few weeks ago, carrying commie banners. Yet, our own board haters, muddle in the corner complaining RUSH is a hypocrit?

Oh, I see...you are seperate group. You're not "neo-cons" a label that Liberals invented, but, real conservatives?

Ever hear of the term "useful" idiots? That would be the anti-RUSH crowd in a nutshell.

Experiment: Go on over to DUh and start bashing RUSH with the identical arguements you have on here...the whole board will consider you a hero.

Result: Useful idiots.

You don't have to agree with him...but bashing him puts you in bad company, whether you wanted it or not. Bad company corrupts good morals...so I hear.

Forget it, N-G, you're wasting your breath.

After all, those who know it all are eminently qualified to attack Rush for claiming to know it all.

It's just funny how the whacko-cons use Liberal terminology to describe people who are mostly on their side already! I guess they never read "How to Win Friends and Influence People".

Oh, that's right! The whacko-cons are SO right that they "can't be bothered to explain themselves to those of us who are misguided" (Imbroglio's own quote to me about a year ago).

We're not worthy, Oh Great Whacko-Cons! We're not worthy!




NOT!

Quoted: Post from liberty96 - D' y'all down there in Texas know how to READ??? Well enough to get our boys elected President a time or two! How about Oregon? Have y'all contributed anything to the 'war effort' besides a f+++ing bunch of panty-waisted liberal-azzed congresscritters, all on the wrong side? Not much, only 4 dead so far. A 700 man unit just got activated, so I'm sure, that will change. www.ibiblio.org/slanews/internet/uscasualties.htm#or Hell, even y'all's Republicans are commies! Ya mean like the ones in DC who are passing the medicare bill aren't connunists?? And, the TEXAS president, who, LIKE LBJ, will sign it?? Do y'all up there in Oregon know how to COMPREHEND??? What part of "Shall not be infringed", do y'all NOT understand??? That's a question that you would do very well to ask Oregon's current slate of Congressional representatives! I figure that's the very least you could do. Eric The(YeeeHaaawwwwww!)Hun

Oregon repubs, are NO different, than Bush, and the rest of them!!

For Dolomite.


Elvis Was A Narc
(Pinkard & Bowden)
Chorus:
Elvis was a narc wearing rhinestones after dark
He did his best to keep Memphis drug-free
He knew every pill he'd eat would be one less on the street
Elvis did it all for you and me

Who's that coming through the park
Wearing rhinestones after dark
Looking much too fat to be a cop
He's keeping Memphis clean
From his long black limousine
Fighting crime with fast karate chops

Somehow I can't believe
That he did the drugs they say
Somehow I can't believe the King O.D.'d
He was seen last week in Iowa
Said the National Enquirer
Elvis did it all for you and me

Now my money is all spent
Because to Gracelands I went
To see those things I really had to see
I don't mean to spoil it
But he died sitting on his toilet
Isn't that a lovely memory

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's almost as good as Bill Bennet getting outed as a gambling fiend!   Bill has a gambling problem. Rush got addicted to pain killers after back surgery. Does that mean that their message and contribution to conservatism mean any less? If you think either one of them is "conservative", then I've got a new education dept., and an AWB renewal for ya...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Duncan, I could not disagree more, IMHO Rush has done more for Conservatism than anyone since President Ronald Reagan.

Quoted: Duncan, I could not disagree more, IMHO Rush has done more for Conservatism than anyone since President Ronald Reagan.

The fact that Rush has skewered both GWB and the Republicans in general for being liberals-lite is a fact that completely escapes the whacko-cons, to whom anyone to the left of Ghenghis Khan is a communist and unfit to breath, let alone speak out.

Fortunately Liberty is one I can tolerate, and even listen to sometimes, because he makes a good point every now and then.

Such a trait is rare among whacko-cons.

Rush Limbaugh Sounds Like a Liberal

Is Limbaugh a hypocrite?  Well, I guess it depends on what your definition of “hypocrite” is.  Merriam-Webster defines a hypocrite as a “person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion”, while Princeton’s WordNet defines it as “a person who professes beliefs and opinions that they do not hold”.  Now, I don’t really think Limbaugh is playing a Clintonian semantics game, but then I really don’t care either.  I think any reasonable person would have to conclude that while Limbaugh may be a good person, he is indeed a hypocrite whose credibility is questionable.  While he has not (that I know of) outwardly lied to his listeners, he has certainly preached from his now apparent holier-than-thou pulpit about character, reverence for the law, virtue, honesty, etc. while breaking the law and lying himself.

People blindly defending Limbaugh will say that he’s “just an entertainer”.  I couldn’t disagree more.  Limbaugh goes on the air arguing “facts”, talking about virtue, attacking politicians (mainly liberals) for their lies, and trying to get people to vote with him.  He certainly has an influence on American politics, and that is his mission.  His primary mission is not to entertain.  It is critical to understand this distinction because someone who has a political agenda and a broad audience should be held to the same standards to which we hold our politicians.  He should be held accountable for his lies and hypocrisy just the same.  

Because many do not make this distinction, we have ended up with people like Michael Moore, who will write a “documentary” full of half-truths and misrepresentations.  Defenders of Moore will whine “well, he’s just an entertainer!”, at which point the masochist in me attempts to engage such a person in a conversation to point out why Bowling for Columbine is not really a “documentary” (defined by American Heritage as “presenting facts objectively without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, as in a book or film”), and why Moore’s ethics are highly questionable at best for passing it off as such.

So what’s the point?  The point is that Rush is NOT just an entertainer, and he IS a hypocrite.  While I certainly do not hold him in nearly as much contempt as Moore, I have lost tremendous respect for him.  Being a drug addict does not make one a bad person, nor does being a hypocrite one time over.  However, Limbaugh has shown that his hypocrisy runs deep, and that definitely shows a lack of character.  So Limbaugh, before you jump on a moral high horse and attack a politician’s character and/or ethics, do us all a favor and can it until you are ready to face your demons and admit to what you really are:  a person who lost control of his will and betrayed many of his fans.  Oh, and my suggested reading for today is a short essay by John Ross entitled “They’re Interviewing Who About the War With Iraq? or Has a Politician Ever Apologized?” (http://www.john-ross.net/interviewing.htm) …I think you may be able to get something out of it.

And for all you people talking about "he's on our side" or "he's on our team" - if you won't come down on one of your own when he or she is wrong, you are guilty of the same offense. It's just another example of people using the "partisan code of silence", which has increased exponentially in the past few years.

Some people seem to believe that unless we throw him to the lions and cheer as he's ripped apart, that somehow we're glorifying his condition as a virtue.

Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm very disappointed that he fell into that trap, but I also know there was no malice involved.

As such, I'm not going to scream for him to be thrown in jail, not because it's HIM, but rather because I've never believed that drug use should be a crime. I'm not going to call him a hypocrite, because he was hardly out there screamining his head off about throwing all drug users in jail.

I wonder how many of you who seem to be partying at the "fall" of someone who has done more for your political side than anyone else are guilty of? Would the term "hypocrite" apply to you?

Hmmmmmmm...... [:\]

Quoted: Sorry, Chimborazo, but I will not criticize Rush Limbaugh for something that I have been guilty of in my own personal life!

 But are you out there in public preaching the virtues of clean and honest living? If you were, I'd be the first to call you on it, and I suspect you'd be the first to call me on it.  

I bow in your general direction, and tip my hat to you, for being cleaner than Caesar's wife! I only wish that we could all attain that lofty perch!

Where was this compassion when Clinton was unable to control his 'tendancies'.  I threw stones at Clintion, and I'll throw them at Limbaugh (and Bennett).

Quoted: Second, the sins of Rush involved only Rush - no one else was in danger of being damaged by his actions, addicted to his drugs, or suffering an overdose.

Do you take such a passive stance when two flaming gay men 'do' eachother with eachothers consent?  I seem to remember an argument of huge societal impact when this victimless crime took place.

Damn this thread took a turn.  My only intent was to highlight his inconsistency and throw a stone through his glass house.  

Quoted: Quoted: Duncan, I could not disagree more, IMHO Rush has done more for Conservatism than anyone since President Ronald Reagan. The fact that Rush has skewered both GWB and the Republicans in general for being liberals-lite is a fact that completely escapes the whacko-cons, to whom anyone to the left of Ghenghis Khan is a communist and unfit to breath, let alone speak out.                                                                                                                                                                                     Fortunately Liberty is one I can tolerate, and even listen to sometimes, because he makes a good point every now and then. Such a trait is rare among whacko-cons.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Agreed, every now and then but not this one :-)

The way I see it, there is a big difference between medicating yourself to ease the suffering of a chronic pain/illness and medicating yourself for the pleasure of it.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's almost as good as Bill Bennet getting outed as a gambling fiend!   Bill has a gambling problem. Rush got addicted to pain killers after back surgery. Does that mean that their message and contribution to conservatism mean any less? If you think either one of them is "conservative", then I've got a new education dept., and an AWB renewal for ya...

That's the difference between us. I will play the game and vote for the lesser of two evils knowing that the total sum of evil will be less. You will not participate unless there is no evil which as the effect of giving the greater evil the possiblity of winning.

You medicate yourself with the opinion that when the greater evil wins, the end is nearer.