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Posted: 11/10/2003 2:28:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/15/2003 10:34:59 AM EDT by SteyrAUG]
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 2:32:44 PM EDT
Thats nice, but we need Pics !
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 2:37:36 PM EDT
So what the hell is Beretta up to anyway? Reconsidering production? Awhilst ago they seemed all Randy about pushing these things out on the market, and all us gun nerds were chomping at the bit. 9mm, .40, .45...versions...the whole kit-n-kaboodle, if you will.

AND...I distinctly remember a "kit" model to be offered which allowed for a 9mm and .45 conversion.

Why in Sam Hell are they pulling back?
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 2:38:34 PM EDT
Steyr..do you have pics or a website with the gun??

I am curious now. I remember seeing it last spring..I've forgotten what it looks like.
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 2:40:10 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 2:47:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:
I'll post some REAL pics when I have it.



Beretta does'nt have it on their website...whats up? Someone else have it?
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 2:57:41 PM EDT
Spacegun huh? I'm curious now... want to see what this thing looks like.
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:02:29 PM EDT
www.berettaweb.com/Beretta%20CX4_Storm/CX4_storm1.htm

I want one. Guess I'll have to wait until I move out of this state
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:14:16 PM EDT
Does it use 92F mags ?
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:14:57 PM EDT
Yukky... I predict you'll dump it within 90 days...
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:22:04 PM EDT
Uhhhhhhhhh...I'll pass.

Looks like my ole....nevermind.

To each his own. I'm just too old fashioned...
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:29:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/10/2003 3:32:05 PM EDT by Gunslinger808]
Beretta is probably waiting to see how the AWB goes.
If it expires, they probably don't want to get stuck with a bunch of politicaly correct weapons they can't sell, and would have to re tool.
If it stays in effect, they would have an over abundance of LEO only weapons.
To flash suppressor or not?
That is the question, as far as weapon manufacturers go.
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:41:59 PM EDT
New in box, $665.00 delivered, right here...

www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91805
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:46:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:49:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/10/2003 3:54:26 PM EDT
Yes, it takes M9 mags (or the 9mm version does, anyhow)...

This is Beretta's answer to the HK USC, and (Ruger has a similar carbine that fits the mags from their semiauto pistols)...

As for the AWB, this thing is still affected by the 89 import ban unless it's made in the USA...

So the bunghole stock, etc has to stay...
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 10:17:24 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 10:44:28 AM EDT
IM inbound..
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 10:56:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
As for the AWB, this thing is still affected by the 89 import ban unless it's made in the USA...



Beretta has a factory in Accokeek Maryland.
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 11:06:47 AM EDT
is that stock considered a pistol grip? could you put a flash hider on it?
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 11:12:18 AM EDT
i'm very interested in a range report on one of these
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 11:16:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/12/2003 11:26:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BaNo:

Originally Posted By Dave_A:
As for the AWB, this thing is still affected by the 89 import ban unless it's made in the USA...



Beretta has a factory in Accokeek Maryland.




I'd love to see one with a threaded barrel/flash hider and some sort of collapsing stock... It looks like they might be able to rig something up to give it 3-4 inches of play. I'd like to get one, and if the ban is not replaced, I'll get the barrel threaded and seek a supressor!

Link Posted: 11/14/2003 3:45:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/14/2003 3:47:26 PM EDT by SteyrAUG]
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 3:46:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 4:04:13 PM EDT
looks good!
must......fight......the......urge.....to.....spend.....more.....money....
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 5:05:43 PM EDT
It has a sharp looking box to boot!
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 5:06:53 PM EDT
I have to be honest, why pay that much for a 9MM carbine when you can get 3 Hi-Point carbines for the same price, and the Hi-Point is probably more accurate........mine is a tack driver, and a lot of fun to shoot......
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 5:08:09 PM EDT
Does George Lucas know you visited?
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 5:37:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jem375:
I have to be honest, why pay that much for a 9MM carbine when you can get 3 Hi-Point carbines for the same price, and the Hi-Point is probably more accurate........mine is a tack driver, and a lot of fun to shoot......




Because....

a)The CX4 looks cool
b)Better optics mounts, imo
c)Looks badass
d)Rather quick caliber change
e)Beretta is a great name
f)Looks cool.
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 5:56:16 PM EDT
Personally, I wouldn't mention the Cx4 and a Hi Point in the same sentence. That Beretta is one fine piece of work.
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 6:17:53 PM EDT
I like it!
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 6:56:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 7:16:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By jem375:
I have to be honest, why pay that much for a 9MM carbine when you can get 3 Hi-Point carbines for the same price, and the Hi-Point is probably more accurate........mine is a tack driver, and a lot of fun to shoot......


like others have said, i've heard nothing but bad things about high-point
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 7:42:18 PM EDT
Oh yeah, forgot to ask:


What about controls? Ejecting and changing mags, bolt hold, release, etc?
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 8:05:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:
Personally, I wouldn't mention the Cx4 and a Hi Point in the same sentence.



Ummmmmm, apparently, you would.
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 8:36:22 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 9:30:02 PM EDT
the Hi-Point carbine has received very good reports for accuracy and also very dependable...I know the Hi-Point pistols are POS, but, this little carbine will fool you...
Hell, you can buy a Wilson 45ACP carbine conversion kit for a 1911 for $345 that makes the Cx4 look like a piece of crap anyway....
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 9:39:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 9:41:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 10:41:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jem375:
the Hi-Point carbine has received very good reports for accuracy and also very dependable....


from who exactly? other than yourself...
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 10:47:44 AM EDT
I'm thinking the days of carbines in pistol calibers are limited. Maybe thats why they are hard to find?
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 10:53:22 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 10:55:31 AM EDT
My Ex Hi-point was'nt that inaccurate..but,was still a pos. The pre-mature mag release and "clankiness" drove me up the wall. It was poorly pieced together with Ace hardware screws. The laser was the only reason I kept it for the year that I did. It looked more like a toy than real..IMO.

After seeing the Cx4 in real pics..it does'nt look half bad. I change my opinion Steyr..it looks tactical and functional.

I can't afford the MP5 or variants....this might be a good choice.

Will you be getting anymore in? Or is this a cameo? 30 round mags...hmmmmm. I'm still saving for .50...maybe...ahhhhhh..I hate decisions on guns.
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 11:09:05 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 11:28:54 AM EDT
Steyr, are you going to get a .45 bolt and give it a go in that caliber? I'd love to hear how it handles .45 I have decided not to get a .45 kit for my Vector since I think it's a bit much having tried a UMP and found it to be pretty unpleasant in full auto. But it would be cool to have a semi in .45 that would be fairly accurate. And also have the advantage of shooting at indoor ranges. Also, is there such thing as a pre-ban hi-cap Berreta mag in .45? Depending on your answers, I may have to snag one of these myself!
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 11:39:54 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 11:52:49 AM EDT
Thanks for the info, I'll stay tuned.

PS: Steyrs price is very decent. If you want one buy it from him, I doubt you'll do much better.
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 11:57:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:



Not sure if there is such a thing as .45 high caps. If there were they would probably only be 12 rounders unless aftermakets were also made.



Steyr, when this first got announced I went hunting around the net for info on .45 mags for it (since I have a .45 pistol), thinking about a carbine to match my pistol caliber, and I couldn't find anything that I would call "large capaciety" compared to a pistol. Not even in aftermarkets. They might be out there, but I couldn't find it.

Link Posted: 11/15/2003 12:26:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/15/2003 12:47:44 PM EDT
If you like ARs you'll like the Beretta Storm. If you like cheap you won't like anything from Beretta.

The .45 version will use Cougar .45 mags; these are 8 round capacity and there isn't any such thing as a hi-cap that I am aware of. This should suit all the 1911 guys who don't need more than 7 anyway.
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