I can't believe you wasted post 90,000 on that!

Anyway, I'm a true conservative Republican and while my support for Trump was lukewarm at first, and in fact I did not vote for him in the primary,  I'm very pleased at how things have turned out.

The leftists are frothing at the mouth and grasping at every kind of straw, real or imagined,  to "Make it STAAAHP!" and I'm just laughing my ass off the whole time.

Unemployment is in record low territory.  Economy is substantially up.   Unemployment for minorities IS at record lows,  and surprise of surprises, the North Koreans are on the brink of declaring peace!  

We haven't had as good a CONSERVATIVE President as this since Ronald Reagan!    And NO President before has ever managed to get the Norks this close to signing a real peace treaty with South Korea!

Obama's legacy has mostly been erased.   But the slimeballs who voted for him and thought he was wonderful are unfortunately still with us.  The more obnoxious loudmouths among them, we call "antifa", antifascists, yet clearly they are using a new definition of "fascist" which has no resemblance to the one in the dictionary.    Well, they might try reading when they're not busy reading the Communist Manifesto, smoking a bowl, and denying that there are only two genders.  

Happy 90K!   I hope you survive your malfunction of the moment and make 100K!

I get my US legal information from the Dr. Phil show.

You would have some trailer trash of a 'cash me outside' chick threatening to go to the police if the the couple didnt break up (even though there is like 1 year between them).

I duno for the rest but you guys seem to have some weird sex laws like when some senior highschool dude gets to bone a hot teacher its considered rape(?) while here you would just loose your teaching licence + civil liability.

No malfunction.

Either we defend free speech now or there won't be an ARFCOM to post on regardless the post count.

some things are more important than posting privileges on ARFCOM.

Ban me but keep the #not_sorry crew, peniswrinkle [sic] and 2minkey around?

Thats kinda funny on a "gun board" if you stop and think about it.

I see this protest as smearing the left with a brush dipped in pedophilia paint.

Akin to how the left calls the right as ‘racists’ and ‘nazis’... difference is there may be more truth to the left-pedophilia link within the mainstream.

Excellent.

As long as both students are under 18 there’s no problem.
As for an 18 yo with a teacher, it’s a breach of ethics and often against the law.
Also, we don’t care how your socialist trashdump sees it; we have our own laws that have no link to yours, despite what Ruth Bader Ginsburg thinks in that batshit-crazy senile lump of tissue that masquerades as her brain.

I remember when I used to respect Sylvan's posts and eagerly read them... now I can only count on him to be a inflammatory in an uninteresting manner, perhaps with a dose of tinfoil.

Yeah well.......he ain't wrong, though.

That's far more helpful, yes. I am aware of the anti-conservative bias (although only because of thread on this site) as I like scifi but I'm not a convention goer nor involved with scifi industry/cultural politics.

Disgraceful... worthy of public ridicule...

Doesn't mean I have any respect for the OP. Pridefully self-identifying as a "street-fighter" makes  someone a hooligan in my book, don't give a shit what side you are on. And, as Aimless points out, the whackadoodle leftist counterprotestors are counterprotesting the OP, not protesting in favor of pedophilia as the OP implies... but that is to be expected from someone who is quite clearly an attention whore.

But that won't stop idiots like Sylvan from painting anyone who doesn't fall in line as "being on the side of the pedos." Is that where our discourse is? Fucking pathetic!

If the high school dude is under 18, most states seem to consider that rape of a minor (minors cannot give consent to certain things, due to their age).

If the high school dude is over 18, it's an ethical violation for the teacher, and if laws are applied equally to both genders, then there are laws covering 'coercion by an authority figure' that could be applied.

Sure, some may view it as "he got lucky", but the law isn't supposed to make a distinction between that and some middle-aged guy banging a hot 17 year old girl that happens to be one of his students.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Salva



Interesting that a Me2 celeb worked with him just a few years ago. I guess she just discovered her integrity after her career flat lined.

No where else except in your mind does anyone here believe that sex with children is OK.  Like I said earlier if we are going to do something about it we have a long history of evidence that the Catholic Church has been hiding and enabling this exact behavior for decades if not centuries. Spend your effort getting that shit exposed to the light of day and not some BS publicity stunt to drive up your twitter and FB stats. I’m just not going to get worked up in a lather because some attention whore wants me to.

You seem to actually hate me. Me? Some random person on the internet that you have never met. That you have exchanged two pages worth of thumb written text with.  Because our life experience and thinking haven’t lead us to the same conclusions about everyfuckingthing....aren’t lock step. Get a grip.

Where myself on the other hand couldn’t care less, I literally don’t like or dislike you. You are just some headless voice on the internet no different than the voice of a cashier at Walmart or the guy at Starbucks. I care what my friends think. I care what my boss thinks. I care what my employees think. I care what my close family thinks. I care what my real world people think. The rest of the world is just noise.

Honest advise is you should go offline for a while and regroup. Your post are barely intelligible and rambling, you seem very angry overall.  To me you seem miserable, it has to be hard on ones mental health to be pissed off all the time.

I do feel foolish having typed this all out with my thumbs knowing that you are not going to even read it all before responding...  Take care of yourself.

If we can't ignore mods/staff, you can't ignore us

Commies defending pedos.  I never knew they could sink lower.

LoL
The only pussy that mama’s boy has touched was bought and paid for or drugged into oblivion.

You confuse them.

Keep it up.

Marion Zimmer Bradley, Samuel R Delaney, Arthur C Clarke.  Apparently Delaney is still alive and welcome at cons, and won a major award a few years ago.

I always wondered about Clarke living in Sri Lanka.  I shit you not, decades ago I tried to think of any single reason why anyone wealthy would voluntarily choose to live in that shithole.  The only thing I could think of was "he can get away with fucking children there".  Want to screw hot women there's Rio, want to screw trannies there's Thailand, want to screw robots there's Japan, there ain't much else left for Sri Lanka. . . .

I figured it would be me. My first 2 years were pretty fun.

Well, this was fun to watch.

Sylvan called that one.

They try and lure us into infractions. That’s 2Minkey’s only activity nowadays.  Getting people banned.

People have been providing links for you, but you sure have not bothered to even take a peek, preferring to dismiss it all with "Apparently some semi obscure sci writer is/was a chester the molester and now "science fiction is rife with molesters" sounds pretty ping pong pizza" and then you continue to ask for names.

This was one person's write up of a timeline NAMING NAMES, some very big names, of both pedophiles and their defenders, that was linked to, yet seems to have been ignored by you...

A Half-Century of Abuse in Science Fiction

1940s -Marion Zimmer Bradley writes first draft of The Catch Trap, featuring adult sexual relationships with adolescent boys.

1954 – Walter Breen convicted for child molestation.

1959 – Walter Breen arrives in Berkeley, California, joins West Coast SF fandom.

1962 -“SeaCon” scandal, involving Breen.

1963 – Publication of the “Breendoggle” – Child molester Walter Breen is known to assaulted a number of children, discussed intensely by SF community.

1964 – Breen publishes Greek Love, an academic defense of “Man-Boy Love.” Edited by Marion Zimmer Bradley.

“Breenagain” reports in fandom involving Victim X, age 10.

Walter Breen and Marion Zimmer Bradley marry. Bradley later admits she is fully aware of Breen’s pedophilia, and defends it.

1971 – The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas is published – an allegory to the pedophilia problem in SF.

The Sensuous Dirty Old Man by Isaac Asimov is published.

1977 – Piers Anthony publishes Spell for Chameleon – the first of 37 Xanth novels, a youth-oriented fantasy series which has enough reputation for appealing to pedophiles sufficiently for the author to provide this defense: “But about membership in an anti-pedophelia [sic] organization—I do oppose pedophilia, but don’t belong to any such outfit. In fact I correspond with some pedophiles in prison.”

1980s – Two senior Dr. Who staffers use their position to sexually exploit young male fans of the children’s television show.

Mid-eighties -Longtime Bay Area fan (and friend of SF fandom notables Walter Breen and registered child sex offender Jefferson Poland) Sandy Cutrell confesses to molesting little girls by bribing them with gifts.

1985 – WesterCon – Breen offers to “babysit” Ken Smith (9 or 10 years old), the son of Mary Mason while she served her duties on the WesterCon 38 committee.

Breen later invites Ken to visit in October. Concerned, Mary Mason asks Elisabeth Waters, Tracy Blackstone, Marion Zimmer Bradley, Diana Paxson and Don Studebaker about the safety of a visit. All five confirm that it is okay.

In November, young Ken attends another convention and is molested by Breen for the 1st time.

The abuse continues, primarily centered around other conventions, and Breen finds another victim, apparently using Ken as confirmation that Breen was “safe.”

1985 – Director Victor Salva (of Jeepers Creepers fame) produces his first SF feature film, a horror movie called Clownhouse, about three boys terrorized by an insane clown circus. The anxiety-ridden and sensitive main character is portrayed by twelve-year-old X, who was raped by Salva on several occasions. Salva used the film equipment used for the movie to record his attacks. He was later convicted and sent to prison for 15 months.

1989 – Moira (now) Greyland tells her psychiatrist that Ken Smith is being molested, and when Ken is asked, he confirms the abuse.

With the new revelation, Mary Mason resigns as chair of a Worldcon bid committee over concerns for her son Ken.

Walter Breen is arrested and pleads guilty to molesting Ken. Receives probation.

Mary Mason files suit on Ken’s behalf against Breen in November. In December of that year, Breen begins molesting his next victim (Johnny Doe 5)

1990 – Breen arrested for victimizing Johnny Doe 5. Sentenced to prison.

1993 – Breen dies in prison.

1997 – Ken turns 21, hires new attorney for his case. Mother is dropped from case, as Ken is now of legal age. Marion Zimmer Bradley and Elisabeth Waters added as defendants for negligence.

Ed Kramer, co-founder of Dragon*Con accused of molestation. Victim recants.

1998 – Salva’s Powder, a film that idealizes a pedophile’s self-image, is protested by one of his victims, but is nonetheless released by Disney.

1998 -Arthur C. Clarke advocates for pedophilia

David Asimov, son of Isaac Asimov, is convicted of child pornography – possessing more than 3,000 videos and running a production and duplication center that was funded by Asimov money.

1999 – August – Settlement in Breen/Bradley/Waters case reached in Ken Smith’s favor. Countersuits by Bradley dropped. September – Bradley dies.

2000 – Ed Kramer arrested for molesting three boys. Violates house arrest after enticing a visit from an underaged boy. Injures spine in custody and allowed back into house arrest after spending one week in jail.

“Kramer’s Kids” are acknowledged by convention staff.

2001 – Kramer’s charges of molestation are fought in public by Anne McCaffery, Harlan Ellison, and many other prominent SF “names.”

2005 – The Toronto Police Sex Crimes Unit publicly identifies a secondary unifying interest among criminal pedophiles: hard core Star Trek fandom.

2008 – House arrest for Kramer suspended.

2011 – Kramer found in hotel room with 14-year old boy.

Notable: Penn State child molestation scandal breaks. SFWA President John Scalzi accuses the leadership involved of cowardice for not doing enough to address the issue.

2012 – John Scalzi claims to be a rapist in an open letter to politicians, enlists the aid of the CBC’s Jian Ghomeshi to explain his motives for doing so. Ghomeshi would later be arrested on sexual assault charges.

2013 – Kramer pleads guilty to one charge for each victim. Sentenced to 34 months of house arrest.

SFWA President John Scalzi declares “Safe Spaces” a necessary component of any convention he attends: such policy fails to address child enticement and molestation and in fact – from a Walter Breen perspective – encourages it.

New SFWA President Stephen Gould selects and awards Samuel R. Delany the 2013 Damon Knight Memorial Grand Master, with Scalzi’s blessing and endorsement.

2014 – The Marion Zimmer Bradley – Walter Breen abuse facts, well-known within SF fandom circles for decades, are more fully exposed by Bradley’s daughter, Moira Greyland at Deirdre Saoirse Moen’s website.

Shortly thereafter, SF Fandom and Authors react explosively toward John W. Campbell nominee Benjanun Sriduangkaew for being, according to the detailed pseudo-empirical Mixon Report, “VERY BAD NEWS.” Sriduangkaew’s crimes against SF and fandom include writing mean critiques of books and insulting people personally, and she (Sriduangkaew) is publicly scrutinized and excoriated in ways that Bradley, Breen, Kramer, Clarke and Delany and other known pro-pedophilia suspects never were.

http://www.castaliahouse.com/supplement-iii-historic-timeline-of-abuse-in-science-fiction/

Other people, both writers and fans, have also written about these people and events, and faced backlash and condemnation from the core scifi and con "community."

ETA -- timeline was supposed to be in color to distinguish it as not my own writing...we'll see if bold works. It came from the link.
ETA part deux --  well eff it. Bold bolded all my comment as well.
ETA part C -- okay, underline of title will have to do. Timeline itself is from link.

Trolls, trannies and anti Trumpers.  What has GD become?

Odd how they_seem 2persist around here.

Now wait just a second. I didn’t lure him into shit. Don’t be blaming his timeout on me.

How long is the lock? I like Sylvan and hate to see him gone for good.

Protesting the Oscars and Emmys next?

Fucking people can’t take a little ribbing? Seen a lot of Sylvan’s posts and while I may not agree with his tact at times I see that action as a mistake.

Dude name’s himself wenisprinkle and a poster gets locked for switching the letters back around when referencing him...

An epic freak show.

this a timeout or a ban?

Well, damn.  This thread has gone to shit.

A perfectly valid position, but tacking in the “oh, and pedophilia too” like some sort of poison pill legislation amendment, to a protest where other issues have top billing, is just goofie and disingenuous. The Leftists have all convinced themselves that the protesters against them are all Nazis, and the protesters are trying to convince themselves the Leftists are all pedophile supporters, lest they not protest against an anti Leftist* protest.

*and anti pedophile. Use only as directed.

I’ve stopped posting while drunk.

Sylvan, the malfunction I'm referring to is just wasting post 90K in this topic.

It should have been worthy of its own topic.

However, I do strongly disagree with any expressed or implied statement to the effect that liberals of any stripe support trump.   That part made me .  I don't see it.  Maybe I misinterpreted your words.

Nor would I ever imagine that site staff would side with pedophiles.  While they're in favor of freedom of speech,  they seem to me to have an overriding morality which is the basis of the CoC.

And apparently you got beat on the head with the staff bike lock before I posted this.

The CoC is not a complicated document.    Nor is it hard to comply with it.

I hope you are only getting a time-out and not a permaban.  But that's not my call.

The name is from an old game. Leisure Suit Larry.
I had nothing to do with this. I have never reported any post that I can recall, but I know I didn’t object to this one.

Yea I liked reading his posts.

I thought I was the king of warnings/locks per time period

That's a little heavy flippered for changing two letters around.

A good third of folks here have a hard enough time understanding straightforward text. Subtext and sarcasm might as well be unfathomable.

Well shit.

I would rather see the obvious trolls banned regardless of priors but that will never happen.

My two cent's worth, if it's even worth that:  I don't know Sylvan but from what I've read of his postings he seems to be a decent guy who gets carried away sometimes.

Consider letting him back into the swamp after a reasonable cooling off period.