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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:00:05 PM EDT
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I have a real hard time believing the majority of the American populace would want to send folks to congress to block the Trump agenda. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:00:28 PM EDT
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Sorry your girl lost. The point is, as Ive shown with repeated cites in this thread, if the 2018 polls are only as accurate as the 2016 polls (that brilliant ones like PlaneJane deride), we will lose the House and then some. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:02:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't a majority of the nationwide populace vote against Trump in the first place? There are also folks who voted against Clinton more than they did for Trump. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:09:43 PM EDT
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If you can read this page of this thread and think the polls were 'blatantly skewed', Im not sure what to say to you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, you're clearly emotionally invested in the Blue Wave narrative, so don't let us stop you from continuing to jump through your own asshole trying to "prove" that the polls weren't blatantly skewed. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:11:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks professor, for that insightful retort. Its a wonder you're not arguing in front of the Supreme Court every term with the incredible logic and persuasion you demonstrate with posts like this. The point is, as Ive shown with repeated cites in this thread, if the 2018 polls are only as accurate as the 2016 polls (that brilliant ones like PlaneJane deride), we will lose the House and then some. The "Sorry your girl lost" is the default answer by Trumplings for anyone not showing enough fealty to the God Emperor. 
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:14:08 PM EDT
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The fake polls! crowd sincerely believes that there were AT LEAST 3+ million fraudulent votes cast illegally in CA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Didn't a majority of the nationwide populace vote against Trump in the first place? There are also folks who voted against Clinton more than they did for Trump. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:15:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a ton of hubris and willful ignorance here, and a desire to deny anything that does not fit the desired narrative. I seriously doubt that outside of GD the situation is any different, hence the low GOP turnout. People here have been ridiculous since the 2016 primaries. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:16:27 PM EDT
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I doubt the lead is anything like 12 points.
With that being said, the D's have voter enthusiasm on their side. Conservatives need to be not-lazy and vote. We have to make damned sure we hold the senate so we can continue to seat court picks. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:16:30 PM EDT
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Hillary 98% |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only a moron would believe something like that. Or a total ignoramus. Having worked the elections here, I'm quite certain there was some fraud, but nowhere near enough to change the outcome. Que attacks on you because you're from Californistan in 3,2,1.... |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:20:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She's just messing with you. The "Sorry your girl lost" is the default answer by Trumplings for anyone not showing enough fealty to the God Emperor. sorry your girl lost |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:26:04 PM EDT
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National voter ID is not constitutional. The Federal government is not given any positive powers with respect to suffrage. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: It ain't even remotely constitutional. That being said, we are in trouble for Nov. Everyone needs to get out and vote, plus badger all other conservatives you know to go vote as well. Dem turnout will be huge, guaranteed. We need to match it |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:27:53 PM EDT
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I doubt the lead is anything like 12 points. With that being said, the D's have voter enthusiasm on their side. Conservatives need to be not-lazy and vote. We have to make damned sure we hold the senate so we can continue to seat court picks. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:28:21 PM EDT
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no its to remind people who have been wrong about everythi g for the past 3 years that their opinion is worthless sorry your girl lost When an ignoramus who's idiotic statement has been shown to be wrong posts it with no further insight it shows intellectual flacidity. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:28:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fake polls! crowd sincerely believes that there were AT LEAST 3+ million fraudulent votes cast illegally in CA. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:30:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, its hilarious when its rammed down the throat of one of the underscores when they post a Meowler thread or one of the legacy Never Trumpers when they are braying about some gay shit. When an ignoramus who's idiotic statement has been shown to be wrong posts it with no further insight it shows intellectual flacidity. As if you aren't ignorant of some things? Hell, we are all ignorant of some things; myself included. 
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:30:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Congress needed to give Conservatives a reason to give a shit about re-electing them. Instead they followed Paul Rino and the Big $$$$ Donors |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:31:27 PM EDT
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How many illegal votes were cast? |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:32:00 PM EDT
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What is this with you and the personal insults? Why can't you leave that shit at the door and just have a conversation? As if you aren't ignorant of some things? Hell, we are all ignorant of some things; myself included. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:33:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know. But i suspect its not in the millions or hundreds of thousands. I don't know the answer but I wouldn't be shocked if it was in the hundreds of thousands if not higher. At least given some of the stuff that has come out in other states. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:33:31 PM EDT
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What is this with you and the personal insults? Why can't you leave that shit at the door and just have a conversation? As if you aren't ignorant of some things? Hell, we are all ignorant of some things; myself included. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:35:41 PM EDT
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Why would you suspect it not to be in the millions or hundreds of thousands when CA has bent over backwards to (1) import illegals and (2) make voting as easy as possible for them (up to making it legal in some select cases)? I don't know the answer but I wouldn't be shocked if it was in the hundreds of thousands if not higher. At least given some of the stuff that has come out in other states. I'M CERTAIN that a level of voter fraud exists - especially in leftist states and districts - but again it would be very hard to conceal millions of fraudulent votes. I can understand thousands here and there but not millions. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:37:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who did I personally insult in what you quoted? "Yeah, its hilarious when its rammed down the throat of one of the underscores when they post a Meowler thread or one of the legacy Never Trumpers when they are braying about some gay shit. When an ignoramus who's idiotic statement has been shown to be wrong posts it with no further insight it shows intellectual flacidity." If I am being overly sensitive, that's fine and I will apologize but your posts are strong enough on their own that they don't need that shit. [/b] |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:38:48 PM EDT
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You tell me. The part in red: is that a general statement directed towards nobody in particular? I ask because I could very easily see you implying that applies to at least one specific person here (which is exactly how I took it). "Yeah, its hilarious when its rammed down the throat of one of the underscores when they post a Meowler thread or one of the legacy Never Trumpers when they are braying about some gay shit. When an ignoramus who's idiotic statement has been shown to be wrong posts it with no further insight it shows intellectual flacidity." If I am being overly sensitive, that's fine and I will apologize but your posts are strong enough on their own that they don't need that shit. [/b] |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:39:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks professor, for that insightful retort. Its a wonder you're not arguing in front of the Supreme Court every term with the incredible logic and persuasion you demonstrate with posts like this. The point is, as Ive shown with repeated cites in this thread, if the 2018 polls are only as accurate as the 2016 polls (that brilliant ones like PlaneJane deride), we will lose the House and then some. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:39:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because if its was in the millions, it would be simple to prove both at the state and Federal level and we would have seen much more hard evidence of widespread voter fraud. I'M CERTAIN that a level of voter fraud exists - especially in leftist states and districts - but again it would be very hard to conceal millions of fraudulent votes. I can understand thousands here and there but not millions. Finding "mistakes" and "glitches" and "errors" is one thing. Proving fraud is a horse of a different color. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:40:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude those same polls had hitlery winning by a landslide. Those polls are as bogus as a three dollar bill. I linked to those 'polls' on page 5 of this thread. They showed the election to be a relative dead heat. Anyone claiming that they showed Hillary to be winning in a landslide is either lying or ignorant. Prove me wrong. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:41:29 PM EDT
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I doubt the lead is anything like 12 points. With that being said, the D's have voter enthusiasm on their side. Conservatives need to be not-lazy and vote. We have to make damned sure we hold the senate so we can continue to seat court picks. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:43:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is all you need to know. Hillary was a lock. Trump's victory was an extremely improbable event, he just BARELY won and the landscape changed significantly late in the campaign. Saw the exact same thing in 2012 when Romney was going to win in a landslide. And in 2008 when Mccain wasn't DOA. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:44:38 PM EDT
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If you can conceal thousands, you can conceal millions and, with all due respect, proving voter fraud is not an easy thing. Finding "mistakes" and "glitches" and "errors" is one thing. Proving fraud is a horse of a different color. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:46:12 PM EDT
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Any fucking moron should be able to see that Trump needs the House to be able to push the MAGA agenda in 2019 and beyond. Anyone not voting R during this mid term is not (and was not) on our side. Unfortunately for us to win, we need to win over a majority of the 'independents' who make up 30-40% of the electorate in any given election. I fear we will not be able to achieve the necessary majority this cycle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Congress needed to give Conservatives a reason to give a shit about re-electing them. Instead they followed Paul Rino and the Big $$$$ Donors Pump the positivity and let liberals own the negativity and shove it in their face. They are the cause of it anyhow. We cannot lose. We cannot be lazy. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:46:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, its sad. I don't think its hubris as much as its ignorance. If you are a yokel and you live in a 2 horse town somewhere 2 hours from the 'big city' and only hang out with Big Jim from the Caterpillar shop and Floyd from the chicken plant you may not grasp the realities of the political environment across the Nation. It's that type of attitude that leads to the abject hatred the rural conservative voters have for Big City Thinkers.... It's also why Big City Thinkers did not see the Red Wave which crushed their hopes and dreams on the last election. The simple truth is this election will require the Right to get out and work, to donate time and money to help get people elected. They need to get off their asses and work. If they do that, the Right will win. If they do not, they will lose. Pretty simple. The "realities of the political environment" are pretty clear to rural people. We have watched as the RINOs did nothing and the Democrats have evolved from Progressives to Socialists with a few Communists thrown into the mix. We can't fix a problem that isn't ours though. Kansas just elected in the primary a hard ultra Right candidate for Governor. We will work hard to ensure he crushes the Leftist candidate in the general election. Beyond that there is nothing we can do here. Instead of people gnashing their teeth about what might happen, they need to get the fuck off the couch and get involved, donate a few PMAGs worth of their hard earned money, reach out to the family and friends to ensure they vote and offer to be part of a Right wing candidates election team. Now is not the time to simply be on the side lines moaning. We can beat the Leftists in November and drink their tasty tears again and relish their gnashing of teeth if people are willing to get out and work for it. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:50:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because if its was in the millions, it would be simple to prove both at the state and Federal level and we would have seen much more hard evidence of widespread voter fraud. I'M CERTAIN that a level of voter fraud exists - especially in leftist states and districts - but again it would be very hard to conceal millions of fraudulent votes. I can understand thousands here and there but not millions. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:50:53 PM EDT
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If we do not win, all is lost. That is all that needs to be said. Pump the positivity and let liberals own the negativity and shove it in their face. They are the cause of it anyhow. We cannot lose. We cannot be lazy. All is not lost. Trump is on a glidepath to re-election. If we lose the House this year, a lot of those swing seats will swing back our way in a Presidential 2020 election. A Democrat House might actually put Trump on a better footing for re-election in 2020. There is not an insignificant chance of Trump in the White House and an R controlled Senate and House in January 2021/ |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:53:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, because all rural people are so stupid right? LOL It's that type of attitude that leads to the abject hatred the rural conservative voters have for Big City Thinkers.... It's also why Big City Thinkers did not see the Red Wave which crushed their hopes and dreams on the last election. The simple truth is this election will require the Right to get out and work, to donate time and money to help get people elected. They need to get off their asses and work. If they do that, the Right will win. If they do not, they will lose. Pretty simple. The "realities of the political environment" are pretty clear to rural people. We have watched as the RINOs did nothing and the Democrats have evolved from Progressives to Socialists with a few Communists thrown into the mix. We can't fix a problem that isn't ours though. Kansas just elected in the primary a hard ultra Right candidate for Governor. We will work hard to ensure he crushes the Leftist candidate in the general election. Beyond that there is nothing we can do here. Instead of people gnashing their teeth about what might happen, they need to get the fuck off the couch and get involved, donate a few PMAGs worth of their hard earned money, reach out to the family and friends to ensure they vote and offer to be part of a Right wing candidates election team. Now is not the time to simply be on the side lines moaning. We can beat the Leftists in November and drink their tasty tears again and relish their gnashing of teeth if people are willing to get out and work for it. However, on this very board we have absolute imbeciles that promise not to vote for Rick Scott in FL. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:55:49 PM EDT
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I look forward to the next round of Russian Interference accusations.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:02:24 PM EDT
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Nah. All is not lost. Trump is on a glidepath to re-election. If we lose the House this year, a lot of those swing seats will swing back our way in a Presidential 2020 election. A Democrat House might actually put Trump on a better footing for re-election in 2020. There is not an insignificant chance of Trump in the White House and an R controlled Senate and House in January 2021/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If we do not win, all is lost. That is all that needs to be said. Pump the positivity and let liberals own the negativity and shove it in their face. They are the cause of it anyhow. We cannot lose. We cannot be lazy. All is not lost. Trump is on a glidepath to re-election. If we lose the House this year, a lot of those swing seats will swing back our way in a Presidential 2020 election. A Democrat House might actually put Trump on a better footing for re-election in 2020. There is not an insignificant chance of Trump in the White House and an R controlled Senate and House in January 2021/ Democrat control of the house will end all the investigations and chairmanships we control there. It will also end any forward progress for MAGA. It will be a major setback for the movement. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:03:01 PM EDT
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https://media.giphy.com/media/Fml0fgAxVx1eM/giphy.gif Sorry math and logic make your head hurt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry your girl lost. Sorry math and logic make your head hurt. Quoted:
Thanks professor, for that insightful retort. Its a wonder you're not arguing in front of the Supreme Court every term with the incredible logic and persuasion you demonstrate with posts like this. The point is, as Ive shown with repeated cites in this thread, if the 2018 polls are only as accurate as the 2016 polls (that brilliant ones like PlaneJane deride), we will lose the House and then some. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:04:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Totally agree. Your last 3 paragraphs are completely on the mark. However, on this very board we have absolute imbeciles that promise not to vote for Rick Scott in FL. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You seem concerned ... terribly, terribly concerned. We have a fucking leftist Senator from ALABAMA of all places. And just last week, we barely hung on to a Congressional District in which the previous Republican won it by 30 FUCKING POINTS in 2016. I'm very fucking concerned. Im concerned we will get transvestitites and Marxists elected in districts that should be easy R wins because morons that think polls are fake and giggle at stupid port a shitter memes didn't show up to vote. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:06:27 PM EDT
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I doubt the lead is anything like 12 points. With that being said, the D's have voter enthusiasm on their side. Conservatives need to be not-lazy and vote. We have to make damned sure we hold the senate so we can continue to seat court picks. They give away their shit. To get a yard sign, conservatives have to pay $20 or whatever. Which, considering they are conservatives... happens less. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:09:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She's just messing with you. The "Sorry your girl lost" is the default answer by Trumplings for anyone not showing enough fealty to the God Emperor. 
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:16:25 PM EDT
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Because if its was in the millions, it would be simple to prove both at the state and Federal level and we would have seen much more hard evidence of widespread voter fraud. I'M CERTAIN that a level of voter fraud exists - especially in leftist states and districts - but again it would be very hard to conceal millions of fraudulent votes. I can understand thousands here and there but not millions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why would you suspect it not to be in the millions or hundreds of thousands when CA has bent over backwards to (1) import illegals and (2) make voting as easy as possible for them (up to making it legal in some select cases)? I don't know the answer but I wouldn't be shocked if it was in the hundreds of thousands if not higher. At least given some of the stuff that has come out in other states. I'M CERTAIN that a level of voter fraud exists - especially in leftist states and districts - but again it would be very hard to conceal millions of fraudulent votes. I can understand thousands here and there but not millions. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:19:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I AM concerned. We have a fucking leftist Senator from ALABAMA of all places. And just last week, we barely hung on to a Congressional District in which the previous Republican won it by 30 FUCKING POINTS in 2016. I'm very fucking concerned. Im concerned we will get transvestitites and Marxists elected in districts that should be easy R wins because morons that think polls are fake and giggle at stupid port a shitter memes didn't show up to vote. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:24:13 PM EDT
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So you support electing a Democrat who will gladly lock his jaws on Chuck Schumer's balls over a 'dopey' Republican, in a blood red state?
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:33:57 PM EDT
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Yeah, I AM concerned. We have a fucking leftist Senator from ALABAMA of all places. And just last week, we barely hung on to a Congressional District in which the previous Republican won it by 30 FUCKING POINTS in 2016. I'm very fucking concerned. Im concerned we will get transvestitites and Marxists elected in districts that should be easy R wins because morons that think polls are fake and giggle at stupid port a shitter memes didn't show up to vote. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You seem concerned ... terribly, terribly concerned. We have a fucking leftist Senator from ALABAMA of all places. And just last week, we barely hung on to a Congressional District in which the previous Republican won it by 30 FUCKING POINTS in 2016. I'm very fucking concerned. Im concerned we will get transvestitites and Marxists elected in districts that should be easy R wins because morons that think polls are fake and giggle at stupid port a shitter memes didn't show up to vote. In the entire sweep of mankind’s history there has never been a cataclysmic political force like President Trump's very good brain weaponized by the awesome power of his tweeting. You’ll see. MAGA. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:37:25 PM EDT
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Do not fash yourself. President Trump has literally destroyed the Left. The elections and polls that have you in such a tizzy are nothing more than the final convulsions of a dying ideology. I predict the Republican party will break with history and gain Congressional seats in the ‘18 mid-terms. In the entire sweep of mankind’s history there has never been a cataclysmic political force like President Trump's very good brain weaponized by the awesome power of his tweeting. You’ll see. MAGA. But there is literally nothing that I have seen in the last 6-12 months that leads me to believe Republicans will GAIN seats in the House. Actually, on one level, this kind of thinking is dangerous because when reality strikes you it will be a rough awakening - you risk becoming deranged like the Left became following November 2016. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:39:20 PM EDT
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Do not fash yourself. President Trump has literally destroyed the Left. The elections and polls that have you in such a tizzy are nothing more than the final convulsions of a dying ideology. I predict the Republican party will break with history and gain Congressional seats in the ‘18 mid-terms. In the entire sweep of mankind’s history there has never been a cataclysmic political force like President Trump's very good brain weaponized by the awesome power of his tweeting. You’ll see. MAGA. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:39:46 PM EDT
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Any fucking moron should be able to see that Trump needs the House to be able to push the MAGA agenda in 2019 and beyond. Anyone not voting R during this mid term is not (and was not) on our side. Unfortunately for us to win, we need to win over a majority of the 'independents' who make up 30-40% of the electorate in any given election. I fear we will not be able to achieve the necessary majority this cycle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Congress needed to give Conservatives a reason to give a shit about re-electing them. Instead they followed Paul Rino and the Big $$$$ Donors |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 4:39:50 PM EDT
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I look at what happened in Wisconsin over the last 8 years and see the democrats took that outrage and occupy movement on a national level.
Guess what happened to Wisconsin after all of the act 10 protests? It went from a deep blue state, to a purple state to a red state and was the state credited with putting our God Emperor Trump over the 270 threshold. All of the polls had Scott Walker losing his recall election and the democrats taking back the WI state house and senate and their state supreme court. It all backfired. Then all the polls had walker losing reelection. That backfired. Then we have all of the Hillary up by double digit polling and the NY Times giving her a 90%+ chance to win. Arizona, Georgia and possibly even South Carolina were going to turn blue - all according to the polls. There were only two polls that consistently showed the race was very close. IIRC one was the daily LA Times poll and the other was possibly the Rasmussen daily polls. Those polls and more importantly the methodology of those polls were derided time after time by the media. They polled an equal number of R/D/I and sampled the same individuals from the start to the finish. The other polls were over sampling democrats sometimes by a 3 to 1 margin. Yet.. Hillary was only up by 10 points? If they sampled Democrats and Republicans at a 3 to 1 ratio then Hillary should have had at least 2.5 times the Trump numbers. She did not, which meant she was actually losing democrat support that was more than just a handfull of pissed off Bernie supporters. I think this over sampling of democrats is continuing, and it is no more apparent than in Texas. Ted Cruz got more votes in the republican primary than all of the democrat primary candidates got combined - and the dems had a record turnout for their primary. Yet Cruz is in trouble according to the polls. |
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