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Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:03:19 PM EDT
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Maybe Trump is doing well but the GOPe because they are a bunch of do nothing, never Trump, obstructionist retards?

How about get off your asses and pass some legislation to help out the POTUS.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:03:21 PM EDT
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i don't trust the polls, but i wouldn't dismiss the potential for these numbers either.

the left is *motivated*.

the only real question is, how many people are "on the left"?
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I’d not take anything for granted, but I’d also question how the polls were taken and where...... easy to manipulate if done carefully
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:03:43 PM EDT
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The only reason she didn't is because (barely) enough pissed off people knew what was on the line and got out to vote.

Never believe your own hype. FHRC did and look what happened to her. Two time loser!

I don't want a razor thin majority that flip flops on whether they want to MAGA or not. I want to MAGA the Dems in the ass until they tap out and cease to exist as a political force.
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Good luck with that.  Even when Republicans are in charge, the Progressive agenda seems to just slow....not stop. Then when they are back in the majority, it is full steam ahead

Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:04:23 PM EDT
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Load of crap.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:04:35 PM EDT
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Oh so we have a blue wave again?
Funny, when the blue wave went away the headlines disappeared.


https://i.redd.it/6t5grsdp6juy.jpg

Never forget, Megyn Kelly was going to be the next big star in news, she and a few other NeverTrumpers were telling us that because Orange Hitler said the Pword, Hillary is focusing on the Senate races.

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LMAO I was looking at that photo and then the photo of muumuu Hillary from the other day.....

Donald Trump completely fucking wrecked her.....

Riding high on certain victory



Wrecked

Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:04:45 PM EDT
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The MSM is doing the same shit they did election night

100% chance HRC WINS!
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:05:45 PM EDT
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Yea we have Kathy Manning running against Ted Budd.

Ted is a gun shop owner and if you look at Kathy's Facebook it has very little traffic on it compared to Congressman Budd.

Ted hits all the local areas and always comes to our Veterans Day dinner and is a pro gun pro military guy.

Kathy is some old ugly trust fund lady that is really not very likable.

Sorta like a Hillary 2.0, I just don't see her doing well even with the Greensboro vote.

Ted will crush her old crusty liberal ass in the debates.
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This is what Republicans need to do across the board. Candidates need to get out there and talk to people, to be a well-known local fixture so that when it's voting day those same people will show up for them.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:09:54 PM EDT
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We need to motivate conservatives to get out and vote.
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This.  We need gains in Nov.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:12:55 PM EDT
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10/10.  Awesome post and true.
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In this thread we see Arfcom ignoring how pissed off and motivated the Democrats are while Republicans are in still in a "We President Now" circle jerk and laughing because they think Republicans have it in the bag and really don't even need to show up to vote because the polls are always wrong.  

The Democrats are very pissed and motivated.  The DNC made key plays earlier this year to position specific candidates in key races to capitalize on the number of seats they win.  Historically the party in power looses 30 House seats in the first mid-term election after a Presidential party change.  In addition to putting key candidates in place the Democrats have been perfecting their social media game and have those resources already in place.  Remember a few months back when the site was flooded with disruptor accounts?  Those were just the fringe accounts designed to push the limits and monitor the response.

Even if the polls showed Republicans with huge leads across the board, assume the race is going to be close and the Democrats have a good chance at winning.  If your primaries are over, then find your Republican candidates, attend a fund raising event, volunteer to help them knock on doors or make phone calls, and get on the list for a yard sign.  If your primary hasn't happened yet then make sure you vote so the best candidate wins and people will have someone they can feel they can support.

Voter turn out is going to determine who controls the House.  Laughing at the polls and acting is Republicans don't need to do anything is the wrong approach and it will cost us seats.  Midterm elections only get about 40% voter turn out.  Meaning the people most upset are the people most determine to get to the polls and vote.  That is hands down the Democrats right now.  Republicans need to show up in force and vote, not take it easy because "we are winning".  That winning ends if the Democrats take the House.
10/10.  Awesome post and true.
Agree.  We have to get to work.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:15:14 PM EDT
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I agree, but OTOH I think a metric fuckton of people are trolling pollsters these days.

I could be wrong but I'm not seeing it going the Dems' way so long as they keep pushing farther and farther left.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:16:55 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:24:01 PM EDT
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1) acknowledging that these polls are garbage agitprop is NOT the same as saying "guess we don't need to bother voting, derp"

2) Conservatives are as motivated as dems (just not hysterical about it), I expect these mid-terms to have YUUUUUGE voter turnout - from both sides
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:25:34 PM EDT
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Never discount the lefts motivation.  Sadly they are more motivated than the right.  Conservatives need to get out and vote and be more active.  We need all the help we can get.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:27:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:29:13 PM EDT
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I will PayPal you $100 if you can post evidence of a quinnipac poll showing Clinton +12 in a general election poll within 72 hours of Election Day.
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Quinnipiac

They had Hillary up like 12 points going into election might. They're such a fucking joke.
I will PayPal you $100 if you can post evidence of a quinnipac poll showing Clinton +12 in a general election poll within 72 hours of Election Day.
Looks like they only had her at +7, as far as I can find by a 5 second internet search. That is still pretty bad.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:33:02 PM EDT
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Shit, right now the Dems in certain key districts,  have constituents fueled by Soros funded
malt liquor and chicken wings feverishly stuffing absentee ballots in anticipation of the
need to be 'found' in a box in a car trunk to put dems over the top.

Bank on it.

That would be the only way a blue wave would happen.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:35:42 PM EDT
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Would be great if the article actually linked to The polls.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:42:35 PM EDT
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Why so everyone can see the D +8 sampling?

Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:43:26 PM EDT
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Poll starts with +6 democrats

38% independent.  Are they all from NH?

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:45:37 PM EDT
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Why so everyone can see the D +8 sampling?

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Would be great if the article actually linked to The polls.
Why so everyone can see the D +8 sampling?

Yup


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People who promised Trump was losing in 2016 November, some of whom who stayed home, lecture the people voting in a few months about polls being accurate.

Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:51:53 PM EDT
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This was expected These polls are reflecting the hysteria surrounding trumps visit to Russia, expect the dem surge to die down some in the next few weeks as that news evaporates.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:52:56 PM EDT
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Polls or no polls, I'll get out and vote and encourage everyone I know to do the same. There is no reason for me to worry about poll numbers one way or another.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:54:06 PM EDT
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I see nothing that would lead to a Dem bump in the polls.

If anything I expect #walkaway combined with the antics of the far left, the Dems should be in decline.

I understand that in this midterm the expected result is for gains for the party that is out of power, perhaps significant gains. But from what I see going on I don't see what would cause them a bump since the last week, last month, etc.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:54:55 PM EDT
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Every president for the last 100 years has lost seats in congress during the first midterm.....except two

Dont be surprised if it happens again
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When you have more Republicans in power than you have since the 1920s the tide has to ebb a little.

If the dems get some but certainly not a wave the madness will be biblical
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:54:59 PM EDT
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This was expected These polls are reflecting the hysteria surrounding trumps visit to Russia, expect the dem surge to die down some in the next few weeks as that news evaporates.
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From what I've read most don't care about Trump/Russia, if anything think he's doing well there.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:55:51 PM EDT
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When you have more Republicans in power than you have since the 1920s the tide has to ebb a little.

If the dems get some but certainly not a wave the madness will be biblical
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If they don't get control is will be awesome.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 3:57:14 PM EDT
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I am SURE the county I live in is fucking solid blue even though a red state over all.

The looks I got during the primary and general election with my MAGA hat and Deplorable shirt were amusing

Trump keeps the MAGA flowing and the property prices keep rising as well as the MASSIVE influx of $$$$ people into the area and I am ejecting FINALLY to rural life and a SOLID red area.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:01:16 PM EDT
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This.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:01:52 PM EDT
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Mitch Mconnel will throw the senate if it means stopping Trump.

What's scarier than a Trump Presidency? A second term of a Trump Presidency.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:02:23 PM EDT
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Election season hasn't started yet. Hope the Republicans will get their stuff together and run on the economy using Obama and Hillary clips from pre 2016 showing how wrong they were about the economy. They'll pick up seat in both if they do.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:03:34 PM EDT
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Never discount the lefts motivation.  Sadly they are more motivated than the right.  Conservatives need to get out and vote and be more active.  We need all the help we can get.
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If everybody who voted Trump in VA had bothered to vote the next year, VA would have a R governor.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:17:13 PM EDT
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Never under estimate the power of the media to influence public opinion.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:20:12 PM EDT
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LMAO I was looking at that photo and then the photo of muumuu Hillary from the other day.....

Donald Trump completely fucking wrecked her.....

Riding high on certain victory

http://patriotretort.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Make-up.jpg

Wrecked

https://www.libertyheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/hillary-looked-horrible-at-ozyfest-e1532316429503.png
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Oh so we have a blue wave again?
Funny, when the blue wave went away the headlines disappeared.


https://i.redd.it/6t5grsdp6juy.jpg

Never forget, Megyn Kelly was going to be the next big star in news, she and a few other NeverTrumpers were telling us that because Orange Hitler said the Pword, Hillary is focusing on the Senate races.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjMX4rrsqdE
LMAO I was looking at that photo and then the photo of muumuu Hillary from the other day.....

Donald Trump completely fucking wrecked her.....

Riding high on certain victory

http://patriotretort.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Make-up.jpg

Wrecked

https://www.libertyheadlines.com/wp-content/uploads/hillary-looked-horrible-at-ozyfest-e1532316429503.png
LOL got damn!  I thought *being* president aged you rapidly
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:21:41 PM EDT
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Just make damn sure you find a person that didnt vote and take their ass to the polls in Nov

The MSM does lie though and will always claim they have the numbers when in reality they lost the popular vote
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:23:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:24:10 PM EDT
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If they don't get control is will be awesome.
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When you have more Republicans in power than you have since the 1920s the tide has to ebb a little.

If the dems get some but certainly not a wave the madness will be biblical
If they don't get control is will be awesome.
Seriously.  Guys, listen.  If we stop the blue wave the leftist meltdown will be so fucking epic.  At least do it for that.  Just think of the gifs, the memes, and the salt.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:29:44 PM EDT
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Quinnipiac polls always have the most ridiculous numbers. I think they were the ones showing Hillary up by like 17 points.
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Poll starts with +6 democrats

38% independent.  Are they all from NH?

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Quinnipiac polls always have the most ridiculous numbers. I think they were the ones showing Hillary up by like 17 points.
were they one of the pollsters invited to that Party for the hillary campaign? (We know this from Wikileaks)
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:33:12 PM EDT
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How many graveyards they visit to get that poll??
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They don't need grave yards when they  import plenty of D voters every year … why do you think they are all about immigration both legal and illegal ??? Immigrants make good D voters and they are more incline to except Socialism …
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:37:34 PM EDT
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"While President Trump's approval rating continues to maintain his record highs, two new polls show a tremendous gap opening between Democrats and Republicans on the generic Congressional ballot. Quinnipiac and Kaiser both have Democrats ahead by 12 points; the Real Clear Politics poll average places Democrats ahead by 7.8 points."
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Quinnipiac and Kaiser, Says it all
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:38:59 PM EDT
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These are the same pollsters that failed so miserably during the pres election.  They all live in an echo chamber
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:44:39 PM EDT
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If everybody who voted Trump in VA had bothered to vote the next year, VA would have a R governor.
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And if my aunt had a giant dong she would be my uncle. An off year election never brings the turnout of a Presidential election. YET the Democrats nearly replicated their Presidential turnout in the 2017 VA gov election. That’s almost unheard of. So saying ‘if the same number of Republicans voted in 2017 as they did in 2016, is like me saying if I ran a 4.2 40 and benched 420 lbs, I might be able to start at RB in the NFL.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:45:46 PM EDT
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I see nothing that would lead to a Dem bump in the polls.

If anything I expect #walkaway combined with the antics of the far left, the Dems should be in decline.

I understand that in this midterm the expected result is for gains for the party that is out of power, perhaps significant gains. But from what I see going on I don't see what would cause them a bump since the last week, last month, etc.
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From your mouth to God's ears.

I don't see the "Blue Wave" coming at all.  The Democrats are going to pull out all the stops.  They're going to go Full Maxine Waters (tm).  Conservatives are going to be accused of every dirty thing in the world.  This will bring some new Democrat voters to the polls, but it'll drive even more Walkaways off the plantation.  Probably half of those Walkaways will vote Green or Libertarian out of spite, but it won't be the Blue Wave that they're predicting.  We still need to drive up the vote for our side.  We need to stand up and be counted, if for no other reason than to counter the polling place shenanigans that we KNOW will be taking place.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:45:59 PM EDT
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Brought to you by the bias media.  I don't listen to any of that crap.  The only poll that matters is the one on election day.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:48:06 PM EDT
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Political pendulum. Remember the Tea Party (RIP)? Mid terms very nearly always swing the other side toward the opposition party following a change in presidency. They are pissed, and they actually vote. Same as we did in 2010.


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In this thread we see Arfcom ignoring how pissed off and motivated the Democrats are while Republicans are in still in a "We President Now" circle jerk and laughing because they think Republicans have it in the bag and really don't even need to show up to vote because the polls are always wrong.  

The Democrats are very pissed and motivated.  The DNC made key plays earlier this year to position specific candidates in key races to capitalize on the number of seats they win.  Historically the party in power looses 30 House seats in the first mid-term election after a Presidential party change.  In addition to putting key candidates in place the Democrats have been perfecting their social media game and have those resources already in place.  Remember a few months back when the site was flooded with disruptor accounts?  Those were just the fringe accounts designed to push the limits and monitor the response.

Even if the polls showed Republicans with huge leads across the board, assume the race is going to be close and the Democrats have a good chance at winning.  If your primaries are over, then find your Republican candidates, attend a fund raising event, volunteer to help them knock on doors or make phone calls, and get on the list for a yard sign.  If your primary hasn't happened yet then make sure you vote so the best candidate wins and people will have someone they can feel they can support.

Voter turn out is going to determine who controls the House.  Laughing at the polls and acting is Republicans don't need to do anything is the wrong approach and it will cost us seats.  Midterm elections only get about 40% voter turn out.  Meaning the people most upset are the people most determine to get to the polls and vote.  That is hands down the Democrats right now.  Republicans need to show up in force and vote, not take it easy because "we are winning".  That winning ends if the Democrats take the House.
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Err.. Yeah. That.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:50:01 PM EDT
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Looks like they only had her at +7, as far as I can find by a 5 second internet search. That is still pretty bad.
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So we both agree that the poster I quoted is totally and utterly full of shit? The last Quinipiac poll for the 2016 Presidential Election was conducted on 10/17 to 10/18 and was the Clinton +7 that you mentioned. Therefore anyone saying that Q has a poll the evening before the election has their head up their ass.
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Even nearly 50% of Democrats don't believe the MSM anymore.  Their message is dying, slowly but surely.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:53:45 PM EDT
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We still have a long time until November.

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This. It suppressed the Dem vote and fired up the Right to stop her. I am more worried they will catch on and start the opposite.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 4:54:42 PM EDT
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Even nearly 50% of Democrats don't believe the MSM anymore.  Their message is dying, slowly but surely.
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That 50% probably thinks the media is capitalist propaganda.
Link Posted: 7/25/2018 5:05:11 PM EDT
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And if my aunt had a giant dong she would be my uncle. An off year election never brings the turnout of a Presidential election. YET the Democrats nearly replicated their Presidential turnout in the 2017 VA gov election. That's almost unheard of. So saying 'if the same number of Republicans voted in 2017 as they did in 2016, is like me saying if I ran a 4.2 40 and benched 420 lbs, I might be able to start at RB in the NFL.
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All elections are local which explains why your top down analysis is flawed and why using those election results doesn't mean what you appear to think what it means in relation to the 2018 midterm elections.

The 2017 VA election was different than the AL special election which is different than the GA special elections which were different than the MA special election that saw a Republican fill Ted Kennedy's old seat and on and on it goes.

R turnout has been up in many special elections and depressed in places with unique facts and circumstances (i.e. candidates who are fucking terrible and who lacked the support from their party as happened in AL and partially in VA).

For comparisons to be valid and useful, you must compare similar things.    Thus far, you aren't.    
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All elections are local which explains why your top down analysis is flawed and why using those election results doesn't mean what you appear to think what it means in relation to the 2018 midterm elections.

The 2017 VA election was different than the AL special election which is different than the GA special elections which were different than the MA special election that saw a Republican fill Ted Kennedy's old seat and on and on it goes.

R turnout has been up in many special elections and depressed in places with unique facts and circumstances (i.e. candidates who are fucking terrible and who lacked the support from their party as happened in AL and partially in VA).

For comparisons to be valid and useful, you must compare similar things.    Thus far, you aren't.    
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You’re correct.

But expecting an off year state election to have a Presidential year level of turnout is just sillinesss. Anyone that follows politics will tell you that.
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