hey waverunner next time he does this make shure
you stop him for speeding from and intersection when he leave's; say well you didnt use a 5 second rule, and speed off. it works both way's.
sence your a LE.

I was there with Wave. There was no sphincter tongue bathing. He's just a little off! (Dom, not Wave)
Want funny? I work the ambulance in the precinct/town where the guy lives! I can't wait til I get there and someone in the home has a special request to go to a further hospital of their choice because their doc is at that hosp. rather than the closest one. I'll only be toooo happy to cite verse and section of departmental policy and procedure on transporting patients to the closest hospital due to liability and concern for the patient's well being on an extended trip which would involve bypassing closer hospitals! You understand, those are the rules and there's nothing I can do about it.[:D]

He has a weakness for .45ACP brass. Bribe him.

You don't understand. You come from a totally different mindset and place in this country. We are at there mercy. i don't like it but we litterally have a handful of places to shoot. They are getting less and less by the year. There is no membership just 8 bucks and you can stay all day. They have 200 yards. We are in a place that wants to oppress you in many ways not just guns. You don't think I know I am going to move from this sh thole one day. I am counting the days and months. But till that time I have to have a place to shoot. And so do other shooters. It is getting that we are going to have to travel 3 hours upstate to go shooting. I travel 1 hour. And other people travel more then that. We have to do what we have to do till time lets us change the situation(and that is get out of NY).

I have no doubt that people from the Island are pretty stupid with guns. I have seen people from all over do dangerous things. I want to clarify what I ment. Alot of people in city limits(not only NYC) are not exposed to firearms as much as people who are not in city limits. Not saying Nassau and Suffolk county is country but it is more gun friendly then NYC. That is why cities usually have more gun gontrol then rural places. My point was alot of people that are in NYC buy a gun for whatever reason and want to go shoot it. They drive to calverton and no nothing about safty. They take the gun out of the car and just want to pull the trigger. They are not concerned about 2 stage triggers,match ammo,match barrel,group size ect. I am not say everyone from NYC and other cities are like this but many are. That was my point. I have encountered this mentality many times at calverton. Just cause you or anyone else is from NYC or another city doesn't make you like this. Another point I want to mention again if you are on this board talking guns and issues you are not one of the peole I was decribing. Why? Cause after they pull the trigger and put the gun away till next time they forget about guns. They don't vote on gun issues,they are not NRA members ect. So I hope I made myself a bit clearer and no hard feeling with any of you guy's from NYC or anyother city.

none taking Lou, Just wanted you to know that just because I live next to the enemy doesn't mean I am the enemy.

Out here there is a range I go to once in a great long while with a sort of gimpy guy that works there. He is always yelling for people to don't do this or that. Always he is at LEAST 50 yards away inside a concrete building with his hearing protection on. He gets out a bullhorn just so people can hear him up on the line.

At that range it is a 1 second rule. Bang...bang...bang. The other place I go you can bring full auto, grenade launchers, torpedos, flamethrowers, and small tactical nukes and nobody could give a crap, but alas it is only 100 yards long.[V]

Wow, five second rule, too bad.

We have been using the 30 second rule, empty the magazine.

N. Grafton. Good people. I may also join at Riverside in Hudson. I've been also a member at Marlborough, but it's really more of a social club than a shooting range. I'd rather shoot than hang around the clubhouse, as my free time is very limited, so I've joined N. Grafton, whose sole emphasis is on shooting. (To each his own, I say.)

Marlborough, as do many clubs in MA and elsewhere, also has problems with the suburban development growing next to the club's land. To keep the neighbors happy (no easy task), Marlborough allows no shooting before 10 AM, no shooting after dusk, no more than 6 rounds in a mag (8 for Garands), no rapid fire or automatic fire, only one guest allowed per member.

N. Grafton's main rule is: be safe, think safe, but there are no probs. firing from after 8 AM until dusk (after 1PM Sundays), multiple guests allowed, any kind of firearm is allowed, from BP to full auto. The Grafton, Upton and Milford police depts. also do their firearms training there, so there is a good relationship with the PDs around here.

The range officers at NG are competent and fair, and none of that Calverton stuff ever occurs. I hope that situation gets sorted out.

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Just have to chime in here about my experiences with Calverton. I have shot there twice, this year was my first visit there. I have not shot rifles for a long time, mostly shotgun and indoor pistol.

First time I went with my 30-06 bolt gun to zero it in. No problem with the range officer who was sitting in his car trying to get warm (Was very cold that day). Since the Sauer 202 in not a semi I was shooting slowly.

About an hour into the session the local militia showed up with their AK's and Mini14's. Guys started shooting off whole mags and were shooting from the hip. RO was nowhere to be found. I wanted to chew out a couple of the militia guys for rapid fire from the hip that was going over the top of the berm, but held my tounge. (I am experienced running rifle ranges, did so in the Army) this time the RO said nothing to the militia (OK they were probably just some guys having fun but they acted like a bunch of trainees without supervision) Since I was a newbie here I was hesitant to say anything to them, but I probably should have.

Next  time I went with the AR to shoot it for the first time. The RO strolled by as I was setting up and made some comment about that gun coming out of such a small case. I told him the case was for my spotting scope and not the AR. The AR was carried in a soft case. He seemed satisfied but was disaprooving of the AR as shown by his body language and scowl.

When I started to shoot I had problems with the bolt not locking back and not feeding the next shell. As I was trying to work this out He came back and asked me not to shoot so rapidly, they had a 5 second rule. (Had no idea about the rule). I said politely that I was sorry and smiled. After that I counted to 5 before follow up shots, but still had problems with feeding. The RO was all over the place that day and came by my position several times and scowled at the AR.

During one cease fire some of the other shooters got upset because I left the unloaded AR with the action open on the bench as I walked back to the car. I just did not know that they wanted all guns placed in the rack behind the bench during cease fires. OK my Bad, and I apologized and took the abuse, I'm a big boy and I screwed up! Other shooters apparently took offense because of this. I did notice afterwards a small sign on the tower explaining that all guns must be placed in the racks during cease fires. I did not see the sign in the previous visit and when I set up. Lesson learned,ask first about range procedures!

Old George really needs to get some competent people on the range and check for new shooters to explain the rules to them. Rules are often looked upon as a PITA but are necessary for safety. Having been there twice and observing the difference in enforcement of range rules I am beginning to wonder if the complaints against the range have some merit.


Have fun, and waverunner get on the Suffolk PD, screw the city!


Geoff Ross