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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:40:51 PM EDT
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Do Girl Scouts do outdoorsy stuff? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No girl scouts? Well, if the Cubs accept girls, then I don't care. I hope she learns some outdoor skills. All of the "I was a Boy Scout and I am ok with this" types are beta-males. Did your wife give you permission to say it was ok? Did you turn your AR15 in to the police because your 9 year old daughter asked you to? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:42:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mmmmm Version jerky..... Also, both my girls are hunters/shooters/campers/fisher chicks. And no Scouting program was required. One winter when he was home visiting I pulled a bunch of outdoor stuff out of my car, an Esee knife, survival tin, fire starter etc and gave it to him he shrugged and said "Okay cool!" with a "what the fuck is this stuff for" look 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:43:48 PM EDT
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1. I have no problem with girls in Cub Scouts. Boys and girls at that age aren't interested in each other, and Cubs is parent-led anyway. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:43:59 PM EDT
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Boys don't discriminate, they accept whatever they can get.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:44:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They sell girl scout cookies OUTSIDE the supermarket. All of the "I was a Boy Scout and I am ok with this" types are beta-males. Did your wife give you permission to say it was ok? Did you turn your AR15 in to the police because your 9 year old daughter asked you to? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:46:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is BS. My sixth grade son has been harassed by girls to "go out with them" since the third grade. He's brought home countless phone numbers that he's thrown away. The girls have gotten so aggressive at times my wife has had to go to the school numerous times to ask the administration to make it stop. When he tells them no, little girls have resorted to calling him a fag and a sexist. This has happened with all Cub Scout aged girls.
I was leaving day care with my son one day and girl maybe five came up and gave my son a big hug and said "Aimlessboy you are aaaadorable!" He look confused and we left. I asked who that little girl was and he said "Don't remember" Fucking chip off the old block 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:47:08 PM EDT
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Soooooo many edits!
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:48:50 PM EDT
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They sell girl scout cookies OUTSIDE the supermarket. All of the "I was a Boy Scout and I am ok with this" types are beta-males. Did your wife give you permission to say it was ok? Did you turn your AR15 in to the police because your 9 year old daughter asked you to? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No girl scouts? Well, if the Cubs accept girls, then I don't care. I hope she learns some outdoor skills. All of the "I was a Boy Scout and I am ok with this" types are beta-males. Did your wife give you permission to say it was ok? Did you turn your AR15 in to the police because your 9 year old daughter asked you to? Let me break it down for you: There are two schools in town. One's "culturally vibrant" and the kids graduate with few skills; the other has a history of graduating genuinely educated kids. As a parent which do you pick? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:50:42 PM EDT
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It would be interesting to know who posted in this thread that is a Scout leader.
Venture Scouts are co-ed and go all the way to age 21. Civil Air Patrol is co-ed. Several of my Scouts have sisters that said GS is lame. I think if this had happened 10 years ago, they would have joined cubs, and we'd have started a Venture Crew instead of having a Boy Scout Troop. When my Scouts were cubs, sibling of cubs used to join the activities and camp outs. Not really much of a difference. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:51:55 PM EDT
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Anyone got a timeout/ban count on this one?
Other than that, I got nothing. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:52:11 PM EDT
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This is BS. My sixth grade son has been harassed by girls to “go out with them” since the third grade. He’s brought home countless phone numbers that he’s thrown away. The girls have gotten so aggressive at times my wife has had to go to the school numerous times to ask the administration to make it stop. When he tells them no, little girls have resorted to calling him a fag and a sexist. This has happened with all Cub Scout aged girls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1. I have no problem with girls in Cub Scouts. Boys and girls at that age aren't interested in each other, and Cubs is parent-led anyway.
At least your kid notices enough to say no. Before I was 19, a girl had to throw me over her shoulder and carry me off to get me to notice her interest in me. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:55:56 PM EDT
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Just hazarding a guess here, most of those here don’t have anything against a father raising his daughter, or doing what he perceives is in her best interest. What they take issue with is the perceived continual assault on traditional values and programs. Forcing someone’s acceptance of girls into what has been a male activity is “bad” because e.g. girls belong in Girl Scouts. Also hypocrisy because boys/men are generally prevented from participating in girl’s activities because of, you know, lack of a vagina. Normalizing the New World Order through incremental change is effective social justice methodology. Those who are against are “haters and biased” while those in favor are “good and progressive. YMMV.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:57:36 PM EDT
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Glad to see it takes an organized activity that fits neatly into your schedule to find time to spend with your daughter 
Now get your virtue signaling out of my Scouts. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:59:16 PM EDT
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Just hazarding a guess here, most of those here don’t have anything against a father raising his daughter, or doing what he perceives is in her best interest. What they take issue with is the perceived continual assault on traditional values and programs. Forcing someone’s acceptance of girls into what has been a male activity is “bad” because e.g. girls belong in Girl Scouts. Also hypocrisy because boys/men are generally prevented from participating in girl’s activities because of, you know, lack of a vagina. Normalizing the New World Order through incremental change is effective social justice methodology. Those who are against are “haters and biased” while those in favor are “good and progressive. YMMV. I really don't care what it's called as long as provides similar learning experiences for girls. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:00:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see it as "The Women running GSA fucked it all up. Let's show them how to run a successful outdoors program for girls." I really don't care what it's called as long as provides similar learning experiences for girls. If you all think BSA has become some sort of SJW pansy-land, you'd be horrified to see what GSA has become. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:04:03 PM EDT
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Soooooo many edits! |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:09:17 PM EDT
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Do you guys seriously have an issue with girls in the cub scouts? How dense can you be? It's a program that instills great values in children, and now they happen to allow girls to participate. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:10:08 PM EDT
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Just hazarding a guess here, most of those here don't have anything against a father raising his daughter, or doing what he perceives is in her best interest. What they take issue with is the perceived continual assault on traditional values and programs. Forcing someone's acceptance of girls into what has been a male activity is "bad" because e.g. girls belong in Girl Scouts. Also hypocrisy because boys/men are generally prevented from participating in girl's activities because of, you know, lack of a vagina. Normalizing the New World Order through incremental change is effective social justice methodology. Those who are against are "haters and biased" while those in favor are "good and progressive. YMMV. If the SJWs were really concerned about girls going camping and doing outdoor stuff, they'd change the Girl Scouts. Its obvious that is not what they want. They want to effectively change the Cub/Boy Scouts. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:11:02 PM EDT
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there is a place its called girl scouts Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you guys seriously have an issue with girls in the cub scouts? How dense can you be? It's a program that instills great values in children, and now they happen to allow girls to participate. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:11:32 PM EDT
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If BSA really wanted to fix any cashflow problems, they would use a shell corporation to buy GSA and keep the profits from the GS Cookie sales.
BSA's membership problem is that HQ and the Board of Directors are scared of losing corporate donations from companies who are scared that their support of BSA will mobilize SJW antagonism. BSA HQ thinks it is in the business of bringing in donations now, not in the business of civilizing teenage boys into men. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:12:33 PM EDT
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Girl scouts is a joke of a program. Cub scouts allows me to participate in activities with my daughter that we both have common interests in. My daughter isn't a girly girl. She likes to fish, shoot, camp, etc. This weekend we are running the Pinewood Derby for the Cub Scouts. We also have 150 Girl Scouts coming because they normally have no access to the event. We invite the local Girl Scouts as a favor to them because they don't get to participate in the fun stuff that the boys do. Venturing Crews are already co-ed. For those that don't know, they are boys AND girls that are 14 years old. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:15:12 PM EDT
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What if she wants to learn shit other than sell cookies? A buddy of mine's daughter joined the Girl Scouts, and he was hoping there would be some interesting shit for her to learn...nope, just sell fucking cookies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you guys seriously have an issue with girls in the cub scouts? How dense can you be? It's a program that instills great values in children, and now they happen to allow girls to participate. My daughter is in girl scouts and cookie sales are the month of February only. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:15:42 PM EDT
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Venturing and Troops do not have the same goals or group dynamics.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:19:08 PM EDT
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I’d love to see a new group formed called, I don’t know, Wolverines or something...boys and girls both can join. They’d learn survival, fieldcraft, orienteering, marksmanship and small unit tactics. They could sell cookies AND venison jerky. Wolverine Troop 87 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:20:35 PM EDT
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Why do so many trollish threads get started by people with an underscore in their username? 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:20:39 PM EDT
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"Yay! My kid and I are actively participating in the death of an age old American institution, and I came here to tell you all!" |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:23:04 PM EDT
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They sell girl scout cookies OUTSIDE the supermarket. All of the "I was a Boy Scout and I am ok with this" types are beta-males. Did your wife give you permission to say it was ok? Did you turn your AR15 in to the police because your 9 year old daughter asked you to? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No girl scouts? Well, if the Cubs accept girls, then I don't care. I hope she learns some outdoor skills. All of the "I was a Boy Scout and I am ok with this" types are beta-males. Did your wife give you permission to say it was ok? Did you turn your AR15 in to the police because your 9 year old daughter asked you to? Kharn |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:23:08 PM EDT
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Honest question OP ,do you take part in the meetings and activities,dumpnyour kid and bail for an hour or hit on the single moms?
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:23:54 PM EDT
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LOL
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:25:39 PM EDT
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Then what does she do the other 11 months of the year? My daughter is in girl scouts and cookie sales are the month of February only. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you guys seriously have an issue with girls in the cub scouts? How dense can you be? It's a program that instills great values in children, and now they happen to allow girls to participate. My daughter is in girl scouts and cookie sales are the month of February only. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:28:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is BS. My sixth grade son has been harassed by girls to "go out with them" since the third grade. He's brought home countless phone numbers that he's thrown away. The girls have gotten so aggressive at times my wife has had to go to the school numerous times to ask the administration to make it stop. When he tells them no, little girls have resorted to calling him a fag and a sexist. This has happened with all Cub Scout aged girls.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:31:44 PM EDT
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"not a troll"
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:32:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BSA enrollment numbers are in the dumps & need to get boosted. That's the main reason why girls can join the BSA now. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:35:30 PM EDT
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Wolverine Troop 87 at the Summer Jamboree engaging in fun competitive games with the
DNC Hello Kitty Kid's Komandantura. 
The DNC was no match. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:36:11 PM EDT
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I don't get it, you say girl scouts don't do shit then are mad at this guy for taking his girl to Cub Scouts? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: They sell girl scout cookies OUTSIDE the supermarket. All of the "I was a Boy Scout and I am ok with this" types are beta-males. Did your wife give you permission to say it was ok? Did you turn your AR15 in to the police because your 9 year old daughter asked you to? 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:37:11 PM EDT
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OP has time volunteering for Boy Scouts, but can find time to spend time doing things with own daughter.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:38:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you had read the various information carefully, you would know your concern is not a concern. Because your last sentence is what they are doing. As a den leader for 5 years and an ASM for about another 4, AND as the dad of a daughter, I can say that boys need a boys only organization. I feel for the OP because GS sucks. My daughter tried it for about 1 month. Long enough to see what a sorry, misguided, mishandled catastrophe the Girl Scouts are. That does not make it ok for girls to join cub scouts (even though BSA has seen fit to screw the entire kit and caboodle up to the nth degree, to the point of destruction) The entire feel of the meetings, activities, materials discussed, interests of participants, everything would change in a coed environment. IF BSA wanted to do something positive, they could have started a female branch of the scouts, similar to Venture Scouts (coed). NOT just shoving girls into cub and boy scouts. It's a terrible shame and travesty what BSA Corporate has done to a once valuable, worthwhile, and great organization.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:41:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because Girl Scouts is entirely different. They are a social club / cookie baker that happens to go camping every once in a while. Maybe they didn't start that way - but that's the way they are now. How do you think the GS got that way? Girls. This is directly relatable to immigration in our country. If you bring enough 3rd world people in to this country, it will be third world. If you bring enough girls into boy scouts, it will turn into girl scouts. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:42:34 PM EDT
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New name should be "SJW Scouts of America" Glad my son made Eagle before the conversion. 
Hey Dad, if GSA is a Joke, get involved and make it great again. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:47:22 PM EDT
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No girls in my son's pack. I really wouldn't care if we had any but I need at least 3 girls plus a den leader for it to work. The pack can try to recruit them if they want after next year when I'm gone.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:48:24 PM EDT
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Meh, I have no issues with that. Last time I checked, it was a free country. Just remember that ARFCOM/GD is a microcosm, & like the real world, its full of opinionated assholes. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:51:30 PM EDT
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Fuck the haters, good job Dad!
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:59:07 PM EDT
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Too bad there isn't an organization similar to Cub Scouts that caters to girls
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Posted: 2/21/2018 2:59:36 PM EDT
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I'm going to step in this, but I placed my daughter in Cub Scouts this past month as well. My oldest son is about to bridge, and my next youngest son will be starting Lions next year.
She will NOT be doing Boy Scouts, but as a Cub, well, we tried Girl Scouts and it wasn't for her. She had a blast building her pinewood derby car with me and my oldest the week before last, and had a blast racing it. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:04:15 PM EDT
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Not picking on you Tinleg. You're just bringing up points I wish to address. How do you think the GS got that way? Girls. This is directly relatable to immigration in our country. If you bring enough 3rd world people in to this country, it will be third world. If you bring enough girls into boy scouts, it will turn into girl scouts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Because Girl Scouts is entirely different. They are a social club / cookie baker that happens to go camping every once in a while. Maybe they didn't start that way - but that's the way they are now. How do you think the GS got that way? Girls. This is directly relatable to immigration in our country. If you bring enough 3rd world people in to this country, it will be third world. If you bring enough girls into boy scouts, it will turn into girl scouts. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:05:55 PM EDT
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I don't get it, you say girl scouts don't do shit then are mad at this guy for taking his girl to Cub Scouts? The adventurous girls can do something else, or turn girl scouts into something worth while, whatever. It may take a while but females will drive all of the males out of boy scouts. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:11:40 PM EDT
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Just hazarding a guess here, most of those here don’t have anything against a father raising his daughter, or doing what he perceives is in her best interest. What they take issue with is the perceived continual assault on traditional values and programs. Forcing someone’s acceptance of girls into what has been a male activity is “bad” because e.g. girls belong in Girl Scouts. Also hypocrisy because boys/men are generally prevented from participating in girl’s activities because of, you know, lack of a vagina. Normalizing the New World Order through incremental change is effective social justice methodology. Those who are against are “haters and biased” while those in favor are “good and progressive. YMMV. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:13:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I slightly disagree, and say that at the Cub Scout level the problem is parents who (1) expect Scouts to change to match their demands and/or (2) force their girls to join it when those particular girls would prefer something more feminized. I did, however, expect scouts to change to match the demands of the environment, and they all stepped up to the plate. They were hellions in the beginning. And I got the usual parental, "Oh, boys will be boys". Nope, says I. And I proved that through example, incentive, and peer pressure, those boys could behave, focus, and learn because they wanted to and not because of threat of discipline. I think some of the parents learned more than the boys. We had no boys who were forced to be there. It was a privilege to be there. I do feel very bad for girls (hell, for the boys, anymore, considering the way BSA is going). I went through the very same quest with my daughter. The wife did her own group of about 7 girls for a couple years, mimicking what we had done in the scouts. The girls and moms liked it but eventually there were personality clashes. Imagine that in a group of females. 
So, I had to make an individual effort in the outdoors with the daughter. Unfortunately, that is only one small part of BSA. Learning to lead, organize, cooperate, etc are just as, if not more important than the outdoors stuff. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:13:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not picking on you Tinleg. You're just bringing up points I wish to address. How do you think the GS got that way? Girls. This is directly relatable to immigration in our country. If you bring enough 3rd world people in to this country, it will be third world. If you bring enough girls into boy scouts, it will turn into girl scouts. There's enough moms momming up cub scouts as it is. Now there's going to be a whole new set of moms momming up scouts. And yes, they will turn it into the Girl Scouts. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:14:21 PM EDT
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where did the OP go ? crying in the corner
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