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Link Posted: 2/21/2018 12:52:46 PM EDT
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Power, control, subjugation, rule all.
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This.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 12:54:31 PM EDT
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Leader in the poll is correct
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 12:57:42 PM EDT
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Is to have nobody with guns except LE and military. That way you are free to act like an asshole in public and scream your 1st amendment right into people’s faces with no fear of being shot.
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scream your 1st amendment right into people’s faces = Pepper spraying, hit with steal pipes, spit on, hit with bike locks, jumped on by a gang and stomped half to death, then called a Nazi.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 1:03:03 PM EDT
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All you have to do is take a quick look where countries (and states) that took a nosedive into gun control. Germany? The holocaust and now rampant migrant rape and crime. England? Terrorist attacks on the regular with bar patrons fighting back with chairs. France? See England.
European countries that are more "gun friendly" than their neighbors like Switzerland and the Czech Republic don't have the same problems as the rest. What a strange coincidence.
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I don't think most realize just how closely the left is following the path laid out by the Nazis in demonizing those they don't like.

The Nazis started out blaming the rich and powerful Jews for all the countries problems much like the left started out blaming powerful white men who kept minorities down. Then the Nazis found that they couldn't blame these rich and powerful Jews anymore because the Nazis were in power. Like when Obama took office the left couldn't very well blame rich white men who secretly ran the country when a black man was the most powerful man in the world and most minorities lived in cities run by minorities so the blame shifted lower for both the Nazis and the progressives.

Both the left and the Nazis started blaming the business owners and saying if only we could deal with these people the country would be great. Well the public had a hard time buy how some women who washes clothes to make ends meet was hurting anything so they both developed the guilt by blood. A person might not have anything or any power but because of their blood they are guilty. Jews no matter how poor were guilty for the possible sins of their ancestors and distant relatives, they got some foot up just by being Jewish. We hear the left saying the same thing here about how whites might not be racist but because of their race they have some inherent step up that minorities don't have.

I think the long range goal of the left is to create a world where the power structure has shifted from whites to minorities. I think they are like those nutty white guilt idiots who give away their money and chain themselves up like a slave. Only the progressive leaders would never give away their money so they believe in taxing till it hurts and giving away people's money that they take through taxes.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 1:04:56 PM EDT
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Yes to all of the above

Purely cultural, the Left hates whatever "we" like - Right is opposite of the left. The right likes guns so they naturally dislike them even without having ever fired or seen on in person.

Literally a Precursor to Genocide of the Right - Many on the far left would round those on the right up in camps and do away with them in a heart beat if they could. They recognize that the main thing stopping them is our ability to defend ourselves. The jews would not have gone quietly if they knew the consequences and would have had access to firearms.

Genuine Concern for "The Childrens" - There are a lot of soccer moms out there whose only concern is their children. They dont care about our nations history, or what future consequences banning guns might have. As long as their child is safe form ages zero to adulthood thats all that matters. F**k the future generations who might have to live in a socialist controlled society.

They actually think it will reduce Crime - Yes, there are useful idiots that think more guns = more violence. they honestly believe the guns CAUSE violence. They ignore that humans have been doing violent things for hundreds of thousands of years long before guns, before swords, before clubs. The same apes we descended from will viciously attack other groups of apes in their territory, ripping their flesh with their bare hands. Just because we invent indoor plumbing doesnt mean millions of years of aggressive traits in our genes magically disappear.

All about Control and a State Monopoly on Violence - This is the agenda of every communist/socialist society. The left hates capitalism because it favors those who work, the left is lazy and wants equality for all with little or no work, to get that they need communism, but to make it work you need to enforce it through force and to do that you need to remove the populations ability to resist said force.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 1:05:52 PM EDT
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CONTROL
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 1:05:56 PM EDT
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Death camps.

Take heed The Silence of the Dead of history, it speaks louder than any crowd of people.
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LittlePony gets it.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 1:09:02 PM EDT
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And this is a major reason why I will never be disarmed.

I've heard pretty much the same argument made.  They are so convinced that the right/guns are the only thing standing between them and their dumbocrat utopia.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 1:10:33 PM EDT
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LittlePony gets it.
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Yep, he gets it right quite often.

Glad to have him around.  Plus if I ever needed help with my Hyundai, I am sure he'd point me in the right direction.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 1:12:31 PM EDT
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there is no end to it... always the next thing.

you ban assault rifles,
then its semi auto pistols
ban them, then we must ban sniper rifles
then we must ban assault shotguns
etc, etc

till you get this.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/92687/RS-Knife-Crime-Campaign-459559.JPG
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I can never get a clear explanation why ARs over semi-auto pistols.  The numbers are MASSIVELY pointed at pistols.....and they're easily concealed.

The only reason is their appearance.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:06:00 PM EDT
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Well looking at history, confiscation has always led to genocide so....
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:20:23 PM EDT
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Well looking at history, confiscation has always led to genocide so....
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Yup

Registration leads to confiscation which leads to extermination.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:21:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:22:06 PM EDT
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No guns in private hands.

The most anti-gun person I know would say to me, "Why can't we just ban X or restrict Y, more?" And I'd say because people who want gun control will never stop. The push for more gun control will never end no matter what. And she pretty much just said, yep.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:23:29 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/9106/article-2185315-00435ABA00000258-415_472x682-459546.JPG

Anyone who thinks otherwise should read Obamas pal Bill Ayers book
"Prairie Fire"
PS: Don't pay for it & put money in the commie scumbags pocket, find a bootleg version online.
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Was gonna post that picture. I can find another...it's not like that was an isolated incident.

Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:23:44 PM EDT
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The end goal of gun control is the complete removal of ALL guns from civilian hands.

The left are collectivists and they worship government as the head of the collective. You feed the government your fair share of taxs, labor, or social justice, and the government will provide your every need.

Being able to feed or defend yourself, or shoot an out-of-control government in the face is heretical to this faith.

It has absolutely nothing to do with crime or saving lives.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:27:41 PM EDT
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Death camps.

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First post yet again...
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:30:00 PM EDT
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Poll=Fail
No all of the above selection
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:30:44 PM EDT
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It's the swamp's last necessary step to become completely autonomous from the people's will.

Once they have all the pieces, we will just be serfs living under their unquestioned rule.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:30:50 PM EDT
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Totalitarianism
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:31:51 PM EDT
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My wife has an uncle that moved to LA from Kentucky as a young adult.  Predictably, hanging around LA liberals, he has also become one.  A few visits ago, he was telling me he had two P38 pistols he bought because his neighborhood had gotten bad, and also had a MAK 90 and a shotgun.  He got the MAK90 on a trade and several hundred rounds of ammo, but a couple of years ago gave it to my BIL who lives in another state.  I talked to him a little about guns and he is kind of lukewarm about them personally, but oddly enough, if gun control comes up in a conversation, he’s all for it, and his arguments are almost robotic and reflexive.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:32:05 PM EDT
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I voted "They think it will reduce crime" because the vast majority of people who are true believers are convinced it will.

In reality, they are useful idiots that are being played by people who have nefarious intentions.

Furthermore, most of the powers that are pushing for gun control do not have nefarious intentions, but they are inadvertently paving the way for subjugation and genocide.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:32:56 PM EDT
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The left will kill everyone who disagrees with them if they have the power.  They'll start w/ the right or some other group they can demonize.  Once that is underway they'll go after others.  Eventually they'll be killing each other as they fight for power on the way to their communist utopia.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:33:25 PM EDT
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Control.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:35:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:39:09 PM EDT
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Mostly E (control) at the upper levels, but I think Joe-Blow-Liberal-Man-on-the-street is more about A... "you can't have what I don't like".
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:42:59 PM EDT
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Technically, both the 2nd & 5th poll options are correct.  A one world tyranny based on government that requires it be worshipped as a deity, cannot tolerate an armed citizenry able to think for themselves and defend themselves.
The public education system has spent the last century brainwashing every person that passes thru, now the campaign for disarmament begins.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:52:00 PM EDT
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I can never get a clear explanation why ARs over semi-auto pistols.  The numbers are MASSIVELY pointed at pistols.....and they're easily concealed.

The only reason is their appearance.
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Because they are most effective weapon and are the easiest to gin up support to ban.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:52:30 PM EDT
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There is no reason to assign malice to proponents of gun control without a good reason.

In all but the most extreme cases, I think most people really want the same as we do, they just don't agree on how to achieve it.

Nobody seriously wants death camps.  
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Total fucking bullshit. Complete and Total, hips deep, bovine excrement. Grade AAA.

Nor does it make sense. People who are too fucking stupid to know what the history of gun control has been- which is pretty much in arguable- aren't people that should be proposing "solutions" to anything more complicated than the toilet paper roll being empty.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 2:59:52 PM EDT
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They are going to be surprised when they finally push too far
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:02:26 PM EDT
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Definitely option 2.

We've already been labeled as 'deplorable' and 'irredeemable'
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:02:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:03:06 PM EDT
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This question demands another: Do you think that leftists are smart, or stupid?

If smart, then it's all about creating a powerless population.

If stupid, then you have to admit that they believe that guns are bad, and controlling them will control crime.

I'm going with mostly stupid, with some very smart puppet masters at the top.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:04:29 PM EDT
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They want complete control.  They cant have it so long as we the peasants have the ability to forcefully take it back.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:14:00 PM EDT
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It's about total disarmament and control. This is something the FUDDs don't understand, once they ban our evil "assault rifles" they're coming for the FUDD guns next. The antis will not stop until they have achieved total disarmament. They have stated this over and over again. I heard it in the mid 80s and onward. You cannot control an armed populace. You cannot raise taxes to 90% if people are armed. You cannot commit genocide against armed people.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:16:42 PM EDT
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The second choice and the last choice in the poll are the correct answers to certain degrees. The far left communist whack jobs want us dead. The other liberal leftist twats want full control of the population to think, feel and do as they say. Either way, they want to destroy everything this nation stands for. Now they are using children........ again!
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:19:58 PM EDT
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The left are very peculiar.

They will try and tell you that European countries are so much safer, but crime-wise, they're certainly not. There's a lawless element in London that nobody wants to deal with, and a definite petty crime problem. Since immigrating to the US, it has struck me how generally there is not the petty crime problem you see all over Europe. I'm pretty sure the reason is guns. Stealing and aggravated assault are risky when you might get shot.

Even stranger, if those crimes are committed by someobdy in the right place in the progressive deck, i.e. a refugee immigrant, they're overlooked, or hilariously, justified.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:22:32 PM EDT
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It's just part of the culture war.  They think it will make us safer and protect kids because basically they are ignorant on the subject.  Most of them that is. And they genuinely believe government is the solution to every problem.

If you want to believe it is so they can herd us into FEMA death camps great have at it.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:23:50 PM EDT
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The left are very peculiar.

They will try and tell you that European countries are so much safer, but crime-wise, they're certainly not. There's a lawless element in London that nobody wants to deal with, and a definite petty crime problem. Since immigrating to the US, it has struck me how generally there is not the petty crime problem you see all over Europe. I'm pretty sure the reason is guns. Stealing and aggravated assault are risky when you might get shot.

Even stranger, if those crimes are committed by someobdy in the right place in the progressive deck, i.e. a refugee immigrant, they're overlooked, or hilariously, justified.
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Exactly good points
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:25:33 PM EDT
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"Five" is the only honest answer.

They honestly think that if we had all of our icky guns taken away from us (by force), then we would fall in line and support their happy little Utopia.  They think that with no guns in private hands, the crime rate would HAVE to drop.  They think that with no guns in private hands, children WOULD be safer.

They think that they only reason we cling to our guns is because they hate them, and because deep down inside, we're timid little bunnies, afraid of everything, and use guns like security blankets.  They want to see us mature into adult, rational people, and one way to force us to mature is to e all our guns away.  They do realize that their will be a few, psychotic lawbreakers who will force them to fulfill the "cold, dead hands" mantra, but they just think, "Hey, they made their choice, and they get to reap the reward."  They also realize that there will be another few who will not willingly fall in line with their Utopian ideal, but once those few are taken out of society and sent to 'schools' where they'll be 're-educated', it'll all work out.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:25:37 PM EDT
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Little of option #2 and a lot of option #5. Option #5 is the goal, but will ultimately lead to option #2 as you have to wipe out anyone subverting their communist economic system.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:31:11 PM EDT
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People don’t think  Venezuela be like it is but it do, and it’s coming to you. They don’t just want to take your guns but they want to arm their supporters.

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/venezuela-confiscates-guns-arms-socialist-regime/

https://youtu.be/Tt2yGzHfy7s
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:35:36 PM EDT
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Poll fail.
The complete annihilation of Christians of all faiths hence the destruction of all forms of Christianity by our lucifarian globalist masters.

Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:39:52 PM EDT
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The left are very peculiar.

They will try and tell you that European countries are so much safer, but crime-wise, they're certainly not. There's a lawless element in London that nobody wants to deal with, and a definite petty crime problem. Since immigrating to the US, it has struck me how generally there is not the petty crime problem you see all over Europe. I'm pretty sure the reason is guns. Stealing and aggravated assault are risky when you might get shot.

Even stranger, if those crimes are committed by someobdy in the right place in the progressive deck, i.e. a refugee immigrant, they're overlooked, or hilariously, justified.
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Combine that with their use of "gun crime", "gun death" etc, and they're telling you loud and clear that they don't give a damn about crime in general.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:44:02 PM EDT
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No guns, global control/one world govt. eventually.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:55:55 PM EDT
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I can never get a clear explanation why ARs over semi-auto pistols.  The numbers are MASSIVELY pointed at pistols.....and they're easily concealed.

The only reason is their appearance.
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It's simple.  They don't look too deeply into things.  Recite for them the body count in Chicago, or Detroit, and tell them that absolutely zero of those deaths came from people armed with AR-15s, and they'll just look at you stupidly because they don't understand.  They only see things of immediate concern.  Five people killed in Chicago last weekend... Hundreds of people killed in Chicago just in the first six months of 2017...  OMG!  17 people killed in a school shooting in Florida!  Chicago?  No, 17 people killed in Florida!  It's those evil AR-15s that are to blame!

I once proposed that we drop-ship a straight-truck full of evil AR-15s and nasty ammo to Chicago and let their whole gang violence situation sort itself out.  "Well, that's just stupid," was the reply.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 3:59:24 PM EDT
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White Genocide
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Make no mistake they want something like what Stalin and Hitler created. Communism/Socialism with millions dead. They use a few dead kids to disarm us in order to kill millions of us. Sorry kids, but we have to think about the bigger picture. Freedom of speech and freedoms of arms are the most important freedoms if you want to keep the government from taking too much power over the people.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 4:00:53 PM EDT
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The peasants screaming about gun control are acting on emotion and are too dumb to understand the statistics.  The rulers know full well what the Second Amendment is for and want it destroyed.
Link Posted: 2/21/2018 4:01:05 PM EDT
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The left hasn't been real quiet about how they intend to create their utopia. Look at all the leftist college professors who preach killing whites, look at the celebrities who hang out in political circles and openly talk about genocide. Look at Hillary who used the term irredeemable to describe us. That term isn't something concocted in her dementia riddled brain. It is a Communist term for the people that they had to kill to create their utopian nations.

When a liberal talks about genocide it doesn't shock or outrage anyone on the left. The surprising and troubling part isn't that some people say these outrageous things it is that no one on the left finds anything wrong with it.

Hillary had Lena Dunham on her campaign. While there she posted on Twitter that she can't wait for the extinction of white men. Other than in conservative circles it was ignored. Can you imagine if Trump had some celebrity on his campaign who said I can't wait for the extinction of black men? The right would have been as angry as the left that he kept someone around like that.

ETA: I completely left out how the left reacted to the republican baseball shooting. They loved that someone tried to assassinate a bunch of republican leaders. You didn't get Democrats on TV talking about how this isn't the right way to do things and the media outraged. Instead the media and Democrat politicians could hardly hold back their smiles. That shooting and how the media and Democrat politicians reacted to antifa attacking anyone with an opposing view showed this country is on the fast track to fucked.
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