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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:45:35 PM EDT
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To the people who believe Trump is just trolling the Democrats. Why would he do that in front of law enforcement, teachers, and students? Why would he lie directly to their faces about what he is trying to do?
Also, has a President ever requested/ordered the ATF/Treasury to review a firearm related item only to have them come back and tell the President "NO"? Has that ever happened? Clinton wanted thumbhole stocks banned, the ATF did that. Clinton wanted 58 types of firearms banned form import and that happened. GW Bush wanted parts kits with barrels banned, that happened. Obama wanted 7N6 ammo banned and it happened. When has a Presidents request/order ever been denied? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:48:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you really think Trump knows enough about guns to know the difference? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:49:52 PM EDT
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Yeah, underway because of him. I didn't go the feels route. I went the route of facts, and you've gone the route of politician worship. And HPA got taken off the table after the Scalise shooting. Not the Vegas shooting. And Ted Cruz had no part of it. Good job outright lying. And you gotta remember that the pussy you support is now proposing banning bump stocks and might raise the age to buy a rifle to 21.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: So you went the feels route... Nothing he told the AG changes ANYTHING that wasn't already underway. It is a move to block the media from saying he isn't doing anything Any action on that front should require congress. The same pussies you support like Cruz who took HPA off the table after Las Vegas. He can't sign or repeal laws they don't pass. So once again, quote me or STFU I didn't go the feels route. I went the route of facts, and you've gone the route of politician worship. And HPA got taken off the table after the Scalise shooting. Not the Vegas shooting. And Ted Cruz had no part of it. Good job outright lying. And you gotta remember that the pussy you support is now proposing banning bump stocks and might raise the age to buy a rifle to 21. That's the point |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:50:32 PM EDT
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I think he clearly meant "makes guns shoot real fast" not " allows continual firing by holding the trigger to the rear" |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:51:54 PM EDT
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Yes, do I dare ask what brought that up? The oddest part is one of his buddies swears he met me (I'm sure he did meet me) and I started telling him about my Jewish faith. Edit I think that guy really thought that happened and I think he really did meet me. edit it wasn't that random, I was arguing with him about Nazis, white supremacists and I think he meant "You must be a Jew to hate Nazis so much" I mean I wasn't posting about panini grills and Maynard just asked if I was a Jew. I thought it was something about rifles/Fudds and the guy was like "you must be a jew". 
But I guess not. Was just thinking how some arguments get off on such a tangent, you end up not discussing the original topic. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:52:01 PM EDT
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You're spent this whole thread defending a man who just said he directed his Attorney General to propose regulations that "turn legal weapons into machine guns". And before you ask, fuck no I didn't vote DJT in the primary. I voted for Ted Cruz. You know. The guy who wrote he amicus brief for Heller. What pro gun thing has your guy done so far? Because SHARE/HPA hasn't passed. National Reciprocity hasn't passed either. He hasn't even made public statements about them. He's paid the 2A lip service, sure. He mentioned it at the SOTU and that was awesome. He's the first president in forever who went to an NRA meeting. Awesome. But legislatively, or at the policy level... he repealed one EO. That's it. That's the best he's done. We have both fucking houses. This isn't excusable. Donald Trump is a good president, and I'm glad I was wrong, but I won't defend him on this for one fucking second, because I'm consistent with my principles. I don't worship any politician. You apparently do. And you've decided that was more important than guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Quote it. Or are your feels in the way? And before you ask, fuck no I didn't vote DJT in the primary. I voted for Ted Cruz. You know. The guy who wrote he amicus brief for Heller. What pro gun thing has your guy done so far? Because SHARE/HPA hasn't passed. National Reciprocity hasn't passed either. He hasn't even made public statements about them. He's paid the 2A lip service, sure. He mentioned it at the SOTU and that was awesome. He's the first president in forever who went to an NRA meeting. Awesome. But legislatively, or at the policy level... he repealed one EO. That's it. That's the best he's done. We have both fucking houses. This isn't excusable. Donald Trump is a good president, and I'm glad I was wrong, but I won't defend him on this for one fucking second, because I'm consistent with my principles. I don't worship any politician. You apparently do. And you've decided that was more important than guns. 
Cite any politician supporting Bump Stocks. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:52:20 PM EDT
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To the people who believe Trump is just trolling the Democrats. Why would he do that in front of law enforcement, teachers, and students? Why would he lie directly to their faces about what he is trying to do? Also, has a President ever requested/ordered the ATF/Treasury to review a firearm related item only to have them come back and tell the President "NO"? Has that ever happened? Clinton wanted thumbhole stocks banned, the ATF did that. Clinton wanted 58 types of firearms banned form import and that happened. GW Bush wanted parts kits with barrels banned, that happened. Obama wanted 7N6 ammo banned and it happened. When has a Presidents request/order ever been denied? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:52:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:52:46 PM EDT
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Is that how the DOJ lawyers will interpret it? LOL DOJ will do what DJT tells them do and love it. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:52:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both which should require passing in congress, and won't That's the point |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:53:12 PM EDT
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Is that how the DOJ lawyers will interpret it? LOL |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:53:28 PM EDT
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Do you really think Trump knows enough about guns to know the difference? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: That literally isn't bumpstocks. "devices which simulate the function of machine guns" is the phrase of choice of the pants-pissers. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:53:48 PM EDT
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Facts matter, facts don’t care about feelings.
This isn’t remotely close to the daca case. Keep telling yourself that’s it’s a chess game. The current admin instructed atf to review devices that increase the rate of fire. Atf has never asked congress for approval on any of interpretations or rulings, I would be happy to be proven wrong. Examples of atf acting or attempting to act on their own without needing Congress: 5.56 ap - ban attempted without congress 5.45 7n6 - banned without congress Foreign ak barrel imports - banned without congress The brace shit show - all without congress Atkins accelerator - approved it and then banned it without congress 40mm chaulk rounds - atf determined on their own that that these were high explosives, then later decided that they weren’t The NRA didn’t force fdjt to do anything. The NRA is just as stupid as fdjt. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:54:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's also third party, or just not voting. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:55:11 PM EDT
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I think he clearly meant "makes guns shoot real fast" not " allows continual firing by holding the trigger to the rear" Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Do you really think Trump knows enough about guns to know the difference? Do a lot of your clients end up in the electric chair? 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:55:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why don't you cite Ted Cruz's official position on Bump Stocks.
Cite any politician supporting Bump Stocks. As far as I'm aware, Ted Cruz has never capitulated on bump stocks or any other 2A position. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:56:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right? The guy's a complete idiot. He only got to where he is by inherited money and blind luck. ... but there are smart people who don't know anything about guns. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:57:36 PM EDT
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Yes, do I dare ask what brought that up? The oddest part is one of his buddies swears he met me (I'm sure he did meet me) and I started telling him about my Jewish faith. Edit I think that guy really thought that happened and I think he really did meet me. edit it wasn't that random, I was arguing with him about Nazis, white supremacists and I think he meant "You must be a Jew to hate Nazis so much" I mean I wasn't posting about panini grills and Maynard just asked if I was a Jew. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Kinda aside from this whole Trump/FTrump thing... Were you the mod/staff that was having a disagreement on something with a guy here, and then the member just randomly asked if you were a jew? edit it wasn't that random, I was arguing with him about Nazis, white supremacists and I think he meant "You must be a Jew to hate Nazis so much" I mean I wasn't posting about panini grills and Maynard just asked if I was a Jew. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:58:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right? The guy's a complete idiot. He only got to where he is by inherited money and blind luck. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:59:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's your "I'm a lawyer!" opinion of that memo? Do a lot of your clients end up in the electric chair? edit and no death penalty in NY! (well arguably in Federal Court since today is super silly pedantic argument day!) |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 3:59:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, technically those are options, but in practice they only serve to divide votes and let Democrats win. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:00:46 PM EDT
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I don't know if you know this... ... but there are smart people who don't know anything about guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Right? The guy's a complete idiot. He only got to where he is by inherited money and blind luck. ... but there are smart people who don't know anything about guns. I'm 100% sure that he sat down and wrote that memo himself without any kind of plan or expert advice. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:01:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. SHARE Act/HPA and reciprocity should've been passed by now. Trump can get back on my good side, but it's gonna take real 2A wins. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:03:17 PM EDT
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The Resident Trump Haters are sure out in force today...
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:03:26 PM EDT
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How about him saying that gun control isn't the right answer? Is that good enough? As far as I'm aware, Ted Cruz has never capitulated on bump stocks or any other 2A position. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Why don't you cite Ted Cruz's official position on Bump Stocks.
Cite any politician supporting Bump Stocks. As far as I'm aware, Ted Cruz has never capitulated on bump stocks or any other 2A position. Simple search finds it. You are simply unaware of how toxic the Bump Stock issue is with the majority of Americans. Find a single politician that will support devices intended to circumvent full auto restrictions. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:03:34 PM EDT
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You think the BATF got the memo and said 'Clearly he intends us to take no action as a bumpstock doesn't function like a machine-gun" ? Come on. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:03:53 PM EDT
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Right, Trump wrote that memo and some lawyer is going to say "Oh he didn't use the right technical description to describe a bump stock even though he mentioned a bump stock in the press conference where he mentioned the memo, so since machineguns are already restricted who wants Starbucks?" edit and no death penalty in NY! (well arguably in Federal Court since today is super silly pedantic argument day!)  Aimless, I'm pretty sure that that's exactly what Rajun_Cajun thinks. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:04:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sure he capitulated on supporting Bump Stock. Simple search finds it. You are simply unaware of how toxic the Bump Stock issue is with the majority of Americans. Find a single politician that will support devices intended to circumvent full auto restrictions. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:04:58 PM EDT
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Both Florida GOP and Trump state that they want to raise the age to buy long guns at 21. Incoming FL Senate President Bill Galvano (R) is pushing that along with other gun control. He mentioned it a day before Trump did.
This seems like NRA whispered advice. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:05:09 PM EDT
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Is this where I come to outrage over somebody said something that might make something happen if that thing over there happens, and those something's over there come into alignment with these somethings over here, but first the somethings over there have to be processed through that something over yonder and some Jew I met may or may not have meant something he didn't say, and the something that somebody said he might make happen may not happen because something could happen or not?
Is this the place where I come to outrage for the day? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:07:00 PM EDT
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I think he clearly meant "makes guns shoot real fast" not " allows continual firing by holding the trigger to the rear" how convenient |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:07:28 PM EDT
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Are you gonna link it or not? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Sure he capitulated on supporting Bump Stock. Simple search finds it. You are simply unaware of how toxic the Bump Stock issue is with the majority of Americans. Find a single politician that will support devices intended to circumvent full auto restrictions. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:08:07 PM EDT
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Sure he capitulated on supporting Bump Stock. Simple search finds it. You are simply unaware of how toxic the Bump Stock issue is with the majority of Americans. Find a single politician that will support devices intended to circumvent full auto restrictions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Why don't you cite Ted Cruz's official position on Bump Stocks.
Cite any politician supporting Bump Stocks. As far as I'm aware, Ted Cruz has never capitulated on bump stocks or any other 2A position. Simple search finds it. You are simply unaware of how toxic the Bump Stock issue is with the majority of Americans. Find a single politician that will support devices intended to circumvent full auto restrictions. fucking go away... You are absolutely not convicing anyone here of anything but you are giving everyone flashbacks of 1993 fudds hollering "ya don't need 'dem high capacity clips!!" |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:09:27 PM EDT
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Facts matter, facts don’t care about feelings. This isn’t remotely close to the daca case. Keep telling yourself that’s it’s a chess game. The current admin instructed atf to review devices that increase the rate of fire. Atf has never asked congress for approval on any of interpretations or rulings, I would be happy to be proven wrong. Examples of atf acting or attempting to act on their own without needing Congress: 5.56 ap - ban attempted without congress 5.45 7n6 - banned without congress Foreign ak barrel imports - banned without congress The brace shit show - all without congress Atkins accelerator - approved it and then banned it without congress 40mm chaulk rounds - atf determined on their own that that these were high explosives, then later decided that they weren’t The NRA didn’t force fdjt to do anything. The NRA is just as stupid as fdjt.  where have you been hidingslither out of the dark i see back where you came from, the trash kbb |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:10:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aimless, I'm pretty sure that that's exactly what Rajun_Cajun thinks. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:12:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryDid you even read your own link? He didn't even entertain the idea. He didn't even call for hearings. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:13:00 PM EDT
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And last I checked I don't have to continue to vote for a group of people who stabs me in the back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yes, technically those are options, but in practice they only serve to divide votes and let Democrats win. Every time. For every new gun law. I'm sick of rewarding this behavior, if they don't do what we want don't vote for them. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:14:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmm, let's compare political prediction records starting from the beginning of the 2016 presidential campaign. Yeah. I voted for him. Yeah, he's a good president. But he's not perfect, and he's fucking us over. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:14:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmm, let's compare political prediction records starting from the beginning of the 2016 presidential campaign.
Remember the 'right one time" guys swearing that the Democrats had a pizzeria cellar full of orphan sex slaves? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:15:03 PM EDT
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where have you been hidingslither out of the dark i see back where you came from, the trash kbb Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Facts matter, facts don’t care about feelings. This isn’t remotely close to the daca case. Keep telling yourself that’s it’s a chess game. The current admin instructed atf to review devices that increase the rate of fire. Atf has never asked congress for approval on any of interpretations or rulings, I would be happy to be proven wrong. Examples of atf acting or attempting to act on their own without needing Congress: 5.56 ap - ban attempted without congress 5.45 7n6 - banned without congress Foreign ak barrel imports - banned without congress The brace shit show - all without congress Atkins accelerator - approved it and then banned it without congress 40mm chaulk rounds - atf determined on their own that that these were high explosives, then later decided that they weren’t The NRA didn’t force fdjt to do anything. The NRA is just as stupid as fdjt. where have you been hidingslither out of the dark i see back where you came from, the trash kbb |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:15:08 PM EDT
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"We haven't closed the door on any front."
That's what White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders had to say when asked if the President supported reinstating the Clinton gun ban. I wish I could say that I'm surprised. But just yesterday, I warned you this could happen. It pains me to say that President Trump has officially caved to the media when it comes to gun control. It's so bad that Fox News just ran an article titled: "President Trump warms to gun control measures in wake of school shooting." This comes moments after President Trump signed an order instructing the Justice Department to BAN many common firearm accessories in an attempt to placate the liberal media and anti-gunners in Congress. Make no mistake; Trump's accessory ban is just the tip of the gun control iceberg. Gun bans and potential confiscation by executive fiat are bad enough, but it gets worse. Not only is President Trump trying to ban certain firearm accessories by executive fiat, the White House is signaling he's open to increasing the age requirements to purchase certain firearms. In fact, right after signing the ban on "bump stocks," Trump took to Twitter to affirm his support for other gun control proposals. It's all "on the table for discussion." Who knows what else is on the table? With liberal Republicans and Democrats sitting down to discuss gun control in the U.S. Senate, anything could happen. These are the first dominoes to fall, and the liberal media won't be satisfied with Trump's Second Amendment surrender. They'll want more, and Trump may very well be ready to give it to them. Gun control is gathering steam, and we may not have much time to derail it. Please sign your petition and call President Trump TODAY. National Association for Gun Rights P.S. "President Trump warms to gun control measures in wake of school shooting" That's the headline Fox News is using to describe the gun control push that the White House has taken up, starting with his order for the Justice Department to ban common firearm accessories. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:15:11 PM EDT
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That literally isn't bumpstocks. "devices which simulate the function of machine guns" is the phrase of choice of the pants-pissers who want bumpstocks banned. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: I did, but I wasn't hyperventilating at the time. Maybe that explains the difference in comprehension. It's literally in the WH response emails now. "devices which simulate the function of machine guns" is the phrase of choice of the pants-pissers who want bumpstocks banned. According to the rest of the world...  Attached FileThe entire point of a bump stock is to make a gun that isn't legally a MG perform like a MG. That's why the product exists, and that's why we had "bump SAW" threads here for a long time. But you know what? The Trump Administration didn't have to even bring up this subject. He won over most of his voters by being an asshole that wasn't afraid to rustle jimmies and piss people off. All he had to do to win here was keep doing that. Instead, here we are. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:15:41 PM EDT
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where have you been hidingslither out of the dark i see back where you came from, the trash kbb Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Facts matter, facts don't care about feelings. This isn't remotely close to the daca case. Keep telling yourself that's it's a chess game. The current admin instructed atf to review devices that increase the rate of fire. Atf has never asked congress for approval on any of interpretations or rulings, I would be happy to be proven wrong. Examples of atf acting or attempting to act on their own without needing Congress: 5.56 ap - ban attempted without congress 5.45 7n6 - banned without congress Foreign ak barrel imports - banned without congress The brace shit show - all without congress Atkins accelerator - approved it and then banned it without congress 40mm chaulk rounds - atf determined on their own that that these were high explosives, then later decided that they weren't The NRA didn't force fdjt to do anything. The NRA is just as stupid as fdjt. where have you been hidingslither out of the dark i see back where you came from, the trash kbb its basically all he posts |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:16:13 PM EDT
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If we could all stop fighting amongst ourselves for a minute, I'd like to pose a question; less for the sake of receiving an answer but more as food for thought.
If the left can get out there and scream their message until they're blue in the face (and actually get something DONE much to our behest)..... Why can't we? Why won't we? Why aren't we? Why does it seem like all we are capable of doing is bitching amongst ourselves then sending emails/making phone calls which appear to be doing very little at best. Surely out of all of us here, we can come up with some kind of REASONABLE (IE, not jumping straight to civil war) plan of action. There has to be something we can do, because at this rate, all we're able to do is prolong the inevitable. It isn't too late, but it WILL be too late if we don't act. Do I have the answers? No, I don't. What I do have is the strong desire and willpower to come up with an effective counter against the left, however. Let's work together and get HR38 passed, suppressors off the NFA, even the NFA repealed as a whole. Where there's a will, there's a way. We clearly have the will. /soapbox |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:17:07 PM EDT
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You're so stuck in the New York mindset that you wouldn't recognize winning if Charlie Sheen was banging 7 gram rocks on your lap and pouring stripper glitter on your tits. You've been so consistently wrong about Trump and an embarrassment to this website, I cannot even fathom how the Avilas have kept you on staff. Shameless. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You think the BATF got the memo and said 'Clearly he intends us to take no action as a bumpstock doesn't function like a machine-gun" ? Come on. 
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:17:20 PM EDT
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Everything you mentioned deals with Imports. And that falls strictly under executive purview. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To the people who believe Trump is just trolling the Democrats. Why would he do that in front of law enforcement, teachers, and students? Why would he lie directly to their faces about what he is trying to do? Also, has a President ever requested/ordered the ATF/Treasury to review a firearm related item only to have them come back and tell the President "NO"? Has that ever happened? Clinton wanted thumbhole stocks banned, the ATF did that. Clinton wanted 58 types of firearms banned form import and that happened. GW Bush wanted parts kits with barrels banned, that happened. Obama wanted 7N6 ammo banned and it happened. When has a Presidents request/order ever been denied? |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:18:14 PM EDT
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Would you fucking go away... You are absolutely not convicing anyone here of anything but you are giving everyone flashbacks of 1993 fudds hollering "ya don't need 'dem high capacity clips!!" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Why don't you cite Ted Cruz's official position on Bump Stocks.
Cite any politician supporting Bump Stocks. As far as I'm aware, Ted Cruz has never capitulated on bump stocks or any other 2A position. Simple search finds it. You are simply unaware of how toxic the Bump Stock issue is with the majority of Americans. Find a single politician that will support devices intended to circumvent full auto restrictions. fucking go away... You are absolutely not convicing anyone here of anything but you are giving everyone flashbacks of 1993 fudds hollering "ya don't need 'dem high capacity clips!!" ps. If you quit quoting all my posts it might reduce your "flashbacks". Just Sayin.
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:19:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:20:54 PM EDT
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IMO this is pretty unbelievable. To say this right after Vegas would be one thing but to say it 4 months later after a shooting that didn't even involve the accessory is another.
Based on my interpretation: He was not suggesting, he was ordering the DOJ/ATF to create a policy that considers the bumpstock a machinegun under the law. To the people, who disagree, using this statement: "they have already interpreted it to not be a machinegun, so they can't treat the stocks as a machinegun without congressional process ", have you already forgotten about the back and forth ATF Letters on pistol braces? Legal this month not the next and then legal again? And that was government employees without an edict from the big boss. I believe they surely can consider them banned items for the reasons below. The machinegun laws/definition doesn't consider a bumpstock; and technically it doesn't fit firmly in the legally provided definition. Therefore 1.because of the lack of consideration about these types of items at the time of drafting the original law, and 2.because the bump stock so closely resembles what most reasonably prudent, non gun people consider a machinegun; There is enough of a gray area that the executive branch can go either way based on the leader of the executive branches(president) orders. All he would have to do is say "well we think this falls in this category(machinegun) based on 1 and 2 above; and if congress disagrees well they can pass an amendment to the law. And if a citizen thinks this is unconstitutional, you can keep your stock and try and get to the Supreme Court after you have already become a convicted felon. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 4:21:44 PM EDT
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Trump 'open' to gun restrictions for certain individuals, according to White House official
"The White House would consider barring all firearms for some individuals, like those with mental illnesses" Trump is not pro gun, stop deluding yourselves. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/21/trump-open-to-gun-restrictions-for-certain-individuals-according-to-white-house-official.html |
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