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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:00:35 AM EDT
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shot them an Email "Hello, I am a police officer with a city PD in the state of MN. I would like to inform you that due to a recent change to your policy and choice to no longer sell standard magazines to the public, you will no longer be considered as a source of equipment by my self individually or my department. I urge you to reverse your decision on this issue." |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:09:17 AM EDT
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So is the going out of business sale starting tomorrow or...?
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Posted: 2/20/2018 6:58:12 AM EDT
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I can see this really paying off for them. Gun grabbers will give them all of their firearms business.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:14:34 AM EDT
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This, just look at the stripper clips that soldiers are given, they are pushed straight down from the top to be nearly flush with the back of the mag. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've never loaded a double stack rifle mag like that 
Place the round on top and push the fucker down. Who the fuck slides them in like a pistol mag?  |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:26:21 AM EDT
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Good luck selling binos to birdwatchers assholes.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:53:51 AM EDT
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There is no magazine capacity limit in Illinois and there never has been. Stop regurgitating incorrect information.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 7:58:57 AM EDT
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There is no magazine capacity limit in Illinois and there never has been. Stop regurgitating incorrect information. I bet that the wives of whomever owns Optics are really not happy that little viktor and little katarina have to go mingle with the other commoners at public school soon and the country club membership will have to go. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:29:55 AM EDT
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“Thank you for reaching out to us, and giving us a chance to respond. We're aware of a recent rumor suggesting that we made decisions to restrict the sale of magazines with capacities greater than 10 rounds due to recent events.
We want to assure you this is not the case. Insufficient internal communication led to a misread message. We are not offering magazines with capacities greater than 10 rounds to the general public due to our location in Northbrook, Illinois, and local laws that limit our ability to sell these. Being an internet retailer serving fifty states can be complex at times, and frankly, our location in Illinois only adds to this complexity. We may not always like the law, but we need to follow it. You can see the ordinance in question here: https://library.municode.com/il/cook_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=PTIGEOR_CH54LIPEMIBURE_ARTIIIDEWEDE_DIV4BLHOASWEBA_S54-212ASWELAPAMASAPREX At OpticsPlanet, we have never used the inflamed tensions and emotions of current events to drive decision making. Our support of the 2nd Amendment is made undeniably clear by the products we offer. We are one of the few online retailers who never stopped offering completely legal products based on public or political pressure. We do not raise prices during frenzies. We do, however, follow the laws and make adjustments when legally required. While we wish we could be your provider of these magazines, our hands are tied in this matter. We sincerely apologize for our role in creating any confusion, and hope you'll continue to support us as many loyal customers have over the past 18 years. Best regards, OpticsPlanet, Inc. Office: 800-504-6041 | Fax: 847-919-3003 [email protected]” This is the email I received when I asked them about the magazines. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:31:28 AM EDT
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Then I won't but nothing form them, let then know how you feel, put some pressure on them.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:33:33 AM EDT
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Don't forget team Wendy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So what's the complete list? This is what I've got so far.. OpticsPlanet.com Dvor.com Tactical-store.com Guncases.com Eyewearplanet.com Rangefinders.com Radarguns.com Springfield Armory Rock River Arms Cheaper Than Dirt |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:39:55 AM EDT
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So last night I sent a short email to optics planet letting them know that due to their recent decision to stop selling standard capacity magazines I would not be doing business with them even though I have purchased a few times from them before, even buying an ACOG. I made it clear that they would be getting no more money from me due to their hypocritical lack of support for the Second Amendment.
This morning I got back the canned answer , that it had nothing to do with recent events and that it had to do with the local Illinois law. I responded with "bullshit, you guys are cowards and everyone knows it, profiting from the Second Amendment and the shooting community when the chips are down you bent to political correctness like a reed in the wind." Then I called them cowards again. Won't do anything, but writing the letter made me feel good. Ironically as I still live in New Jersey, I am not able to buy standard capacity magazines and have them shipped to my home state, but I will not support them with my money if they don't support the Second Amendment. I hope everyone on this website was spent money with them does the same thing. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:46:13 AM EDT
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Maybe someone should tell them they sell sniper rifle scopes.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 8:47:21 AM EDT
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There is no magazine capacity limit in Illinois and there never has been. Stop regurgitating incorrect information. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 9:22:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was under the impression that all municipalities in Cook County can exercise Home Rule, Northbrook included? |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 9:38:41 AM EDT
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I just removed myself from their mailing list.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 9:45:46 AM EDT
[#16]
Yup... me too. Remove from all.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 9:55:32 AM EDT
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I just "unsubscribed" from their email list with a blistering letter telling them why they will NEVER see another dime from me.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:11:02 AM EDT
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It looks like the real problem once again is local law and politicians. perhaps Optics Planet should consider moving to a friendlier area.
It also looks like the local law is crossing the line by affecting interstate commerce, something else for them to look at. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:12:18 AM EDT
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Cook County doesn't even let them have them to sell to out of county residents???
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:12:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tomorrow, I'm doing you one better.... I'm notifying them to cancel my DVOR account, delete any of my personal information they retain, and not contact me in the future. If they so much as send me an e-mail or advertisement, I will prosecute under my state's harassment statute. I'm an asshole. 
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:23:50 AM EDT
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Well, I was just considering them for optics on a new rifle build I'm gearing up for. Guess I'll scratch them off the list.
Stupid move. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:26:25 AM EDT
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X Products And Dicks. Let's not forget the most appropriately named business in the history of dicks. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:29:47 AM EDT
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Well, I was just considering them for optics on a new rifle build I'm gearing up for. Guess I'll scratch them off the list. Stupid move. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:30:59 AM EDT
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And Dicks. Let's not forget the most appropriately named business in the history of dicks. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:31:02 AM EDT
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I still don't understand how they can say they can't even hold them yet can still sell them to LEO's, etc.
Why are they lying??? |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:31:58 AM EDT
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lol I’d never order from those shitbags anyway. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:34:17 AM EDT
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Unsubscribed from them and Dvor. Let them know in feedback about their stupid policy...as if.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:34:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: X Products What did they do? I was about to order a 9mm drum. Disregard-I found it. What a bunch of retards. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:37:37 AM EDT
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Don't forget to add LowerPricedGuns
to your list |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:42:26 AM EDT
[#30]
The law posted seems pretty clear. I think the hatred here is being misplaced.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:43:32 AM EDT
[#31]
What a shame.
Oh well, I have zero problem maintaining my list of companies I'll never do business with. Troy and Team Wendy top the list because frankly, it's more than just their public antics that bother me. I have seen how they operate behind the curtain, within the industry. Shady fucking bastards, they are. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:43:53 AM EDT
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The law posted seems pretty clear. I think the hatred here is being misplaced. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:43:56 AM EDT
[#33]
Bah. Fuck it.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:47:16 AM EDT
[#34]
Optics Planet: The NY SAFE Act of gun stores.
I'll never buy from them again. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:48:46 AM EDT
[#35]
As if them taking forever to ship and taking forever to respond to customer service emails wasn't bad enough. . .
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:50:37 AM EDT
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We should not be buying products made in blue states or from businesses located in blue states anyway. We have to vote with our wallets between elections.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:56:33 AM EDT
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“Thank you for reaching out to us, and giving us a chance to respond. We're aware of a recent rumor suggesting that we made decisions to restrict the sale of magazines with capacities greater than 10 rounds due to recent events. We want to assure you this is not the case. Insufficient internal communication led to a misread message. We are not offering magazines with capacities greater than 10 rounds to the general public due to our location in Northbrook, Illinois, and local laws that limit our ability to sell these. Being an internet retailer serving fifty states can be complex at times, and frankly, our location in Illinois only adds to this complexity. We may not always like the law, but we need to follow it. You can see the ordinance in question here: https://library.municode.com/il/cook_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=PTIGEOR_CH54LIPEMIBURE_ARTIIIDEWEDE_DIV4BLHOASWEBA_S54-212ASWELAPAMASAPREX At OpticsPlanet, we have never used the inflamed tensions and emotions of current events to drive decision making. Our support of the 2nd Amendment is made undeniably clear by the products we offer. We are one of the few online retailers who never stopped offering completely legal products based on public or political pressure. We do not raise prices during frenzies. We do, however, follow the laws and make adjustments when legally required. While we wish we could be your provider of these magazines, our hands are tied in this matter. We sincerely apologize for our role in creating any confusion, and hope you'll continue to support us as many loyal customers have over the past 18 years. Best regards, OpticsPlanet, Inc. Office: 800-504-6041 | Fax: 847-919-3003 [email protected]” This is the email I received when I asked them about the magazines. Who am I supposed to feign outrage over now? It was evident early on this was probably BS. Several links to >10 rd mags were posted. (For the record, I’ve never spent a dime at OP.) Think I’ll put on my nikes, Levi’s and Patagonia jacket and stop by dick’s sporting goods on the way to work. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 10:58:57 AM EDT
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The law posted seems pretty clear. I think the hatred here is being misplaced. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:03:05 AM EDT
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The law posted seems pretty clear. I think the hatred here is being misplaced. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:04:52 AM EDT
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Looking at google maps, it appears that they are just 1000 ft from the county line...why in the hell would you setup in Cook county..
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:05:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well shit. Who am I supposed to feign outrage over now? It was evident early on this was probably BS. Several links to >10 rd mags were posted. (For the record, I’ve never spent a dime at OP.) Think I’ll put on my nikes, Levi’s and Patagonia jacket and stop by dick’s sporting goods on the way to work. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:08:10 AM EDT
[#42]
Got the same canned response in my email this morning. They're really sticking to their story!
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:10:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:22:59 AM EDT
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Typical over-reaction from GD. They never did sell anything larger than a 15rd mag. Yet I notice you did not say Optics Planet over reacted in what they did. Yet when progun GD/ar15.com voices their dismay about Optics Planet turning on their customer base (us) and siding with the Democratic party and LEFT Wing Extremists and stops selling anything that holds more than 10 rds of ammo. We are over reacting yet the left is not. What's the weather like in Dallas by the way. All of these people blaming you, I and every gun owner in America are being blamed for the actions of a very few. We are being attacked by left wing extremists . Backed by these Democratic Leaders. They want our constitutional rights taken away. Instead of fixing the problem they are attacking us on an individual basis. They are over reacting. I have heard very very little about the shooter. But a whole hell of a lot of blame against the gun and gun owners for this act of violence. These extremists are insane they blame, you and I. Everyone here that had absolutely nothing to do with this horrible act. They are blaming us more than the person that pulled the trigger. They've spend more time on national news pointing their fingers at America's gun owners as the killer that the actual killer. The left wing extremists and Democratic party are instigating this, they are feeding the fire of this hate. All to destroy our President and destroy our gun rights. They are using you, and I as food for hate. This is an over reaction. Optics Planet abandoned it's own customer base because they are weak cowards. We voice our dismay and disgust about what they did and you say. Typical GD/AR15.COM over reaction. Way to go in letting us know we are over reacting 
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:27:03 AM EDT
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@Azygos What did they do? I was about to order a 9mm drum. Disregard-I found it. What a bunch of retards. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: X Products What did they do? I was about to order a 9mm drum. Disregard-I found it. What a bunch of retards. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:31:28 AM EDT
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Don't do it. I ordered one when they came out, wouldn't fit into the mag block (hahn top load). Took a long time to get a response and refund. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: X Products What did they do? I was about to order a 9mm drum. Disregard-I found it. What a bunch of retards. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:34:29 AM EDT
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Optics Planet turned off commenting on their Instagram page.
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:35:15 AM EDT
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Here is the ordinance in the response they sent me.
Sec. 54-212. - Assault weapons, and large-capacity magazines; sale prohibited; exceptions. (a) It shall be unlawful for any person to manufacture, sell, offer or display for sale, give, lend, transfer ownership of, acquire, carry or possess any assault weapon or large capacity magazine in Cook County. This subsection shall not apply to: (1) The sale or transfer to, or possession by any officer, agent, or employee of Cook County or any other municipality or state or of the United States, members of the armed forces of the United States; or the organized militia of this or any other state; or peace officers to the extent that any such person named in this subsection is otherwise authorized to acquire or possess an assault weapon and/or large capacity magazine and does so while acting within the scope of his or her duties; |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:36:12 AM EDT
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Optics Planet turned off commenting on their Instagram page. |
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Posted: 2/20/2018 11:39:28 AM EDT
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Here is the ordinance in the response they sent me. Sec. 54-212. - Assault weapons, and large-capacity magazines; sale prohibited; exceptions. (a) It shall be unlawful for any person to manufacture, sell, offer or display for sale, give, lend, transfer ownership of, acquire, carry or possess any assault weapon or large capacity magazine in Cook County. This subsection shall not apply to: (1) The sale or transfer to, or possession by any officer, agent, or employee of Cook County or any other municipality or state or of the United States, members of the armed forces of the United States; or the organized militia of this or any other state; or peace officers to the extent that any such person named in this subsection is otherwise authorized to acquire or possess an assault weapon and/or large capacity magazine and does so while acting within the scope of his or her duties; Plus it says "in Cook County"................. |
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