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The Mercedes dominance issue is a tough one. It does suck to see one team dominate to this degree. However, it's certainly not a new phenomenon. We've seen eras of dominance from Ferrari, Williams, McLaren, and Red Bull. To a smaller degree, Renault as well. Mercedes dominance is most similar to the Red Bull/Vettel era, though to a higher degree, and for a longer period, I think. I'd have to research the results and lap times. What I don't want to see is the FIA stick it to Mercedes specifically. I'd rather see a solution where they allow all teams to improve between, and throughout the seasons. Maybe allow more changes and testing. If Mercedes takes better advantage of this, then so be it. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember the FIA made rules changes that were specifically aimed at breaking RBR's dominance. I don't want the FIA to pick favorites, even if it would benefit my favorite teams and drivers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: Okay, I think we're ALL in agreement on this. Do we have any non-devil's-advocate halo supporters?? Come out and face your beating. It does suck to see one team dominate to this degree. However, it's certainly not a new phenomenon. We've seen eras of dominance from Ferrari, Williams, McLaren, and Red Bull. To a smaller degree, Renault as well. Mercedes dominance is most similar to the Red Bull/Vettel era, though to a higher degree, and for a longer period, I think. I'd have to research the results and lap times. What I don't want to see is the FIA stick it to Mercedes specifically. I'd rather see a solution where they allow all teams to improve between, and throughout the seasons. Maybe allow more changes and testing. If Mercedes takes better advantage of this, then so be it. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember the FIA made rules changes that were specifically aimed at breaking RBR's dominance. I don't want the FIA to pick favorites, even if it would benefit my favorite teams and drivers. I only watch F1 any more to watch the best driver on the planet, pilot the chosen-by-God McLaren around at the front of the parade. Seriously.... I think the only hope for F1 is a format that employs some form of BOP. BTW.... I'm a huge Kimi fan and I really appreciate the passion that Max brings to the mix. I'm going to enjoy watching him mature and piss off everybody else on the grid in the meantime. |
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The Mercedes dominance issue is a tough one. It does suck to see one team dominate to this degree. However, it's certainly not a new phenomenon. We've seen eras of dominance from Ferrari, Williams, McLaren, and Red Bull. To a smaller degree, Renault as well. Mercedes dominance is most similar to the Red Bull/Vettel era, though to a higher degree, and for a longer period, I think. I'd have to research the results and lap times. What I don't want to see is the FIA stick it to Mercedes specifically. I'd rather see a solution where they allow all teams to improve between, and throughout the seasons. Maybe allow more changes and testing. If Mercedes takes better advantage of this, then so be it. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember the FIA made rules changes that were specifically aimed at breaking RBR's dominance. I don't want the FIA to pick favorites, even if it would benefit my favorite teams and drivers. View Quote Of the (4) Red Bull/Vettel championships, two went down to the final race with possible winners from multiple teams (in the first, Vettel only lead the Championship during the final race). |
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I totally agree. I don't want rules aimed at anyone in particular. I want winners to be legit winners. Even if the winner is your team/driver, it's hollow if they were carried by an organization. I was a Seb guy even when he was at RBR, so I was mostly happy then. But part of that happiness was badass sounding V8s. Between that being history and Merc's dominance... the past four years have been a beat-down for me and honestly, I get more excited about WEC racing than F1 any more. I used to have all of this anticipation leading up to F1 season (same with the NFL). But the past few years, I almost dread putting myself through another season (in both sports). I'm pretty much done with the NFL, and don't think that I'll last much longer in F1 if things don't get jumbled a bit. The boring predictability of it all is brutal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The Mercedes dominance issue is a tough one. It does suck to see one team dominate to this degree. However, it's certainly not a new phenomenon. We've seen eras of dominance from Ferrari, Williams, McLaren, and Red Bull. To a smaller degree, Renault as well. Mercedes dominance is most similar to the Red Bull/Vettel era, though to a higher degree, and for a longer period, I think. I'd have to research the results and lap times. What I don't want to see is the FIA stick it to Mercedes specifically. I'd rather see a solution where they allow all teams to improve between, and throughout the seasons. Maybe allow more changes and testing. If Mercedes takes better advantage of this, then so be it. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember the FIA made rules changes that were specifically aimed at breaking RBR's dominance. I don't want the FIA to pick favorites, even if it would benefit my favorite teams and drivers. It almost makes me wonder how competitive the cars would be if F1 went back to single element wings, and you allowed teams to adjust settings on the car after the second practice session. |
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Quoted: I honestly thing F1's biggest failing is that it has become so aero dependent. Sure the cars are fast as all get out, but if you get within 2 seconds of the car in front of you, you lose all front end grip, and beat the hell out of your tires. It almost makes me wonder how competitive the cars would be if F1 went back to single element wings, and you allowed teams to adjust settings on the car after the second practice session. View Quote |
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I don't care what it takes.... I just want racing from flag to flag.
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This happened back in March '17, I heard him say in an interview a few months back that part of the solution was larger floors.
Formula 1 seeks to create a passing committee Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/formula-1-seeks-create-passing-committee#ixzz53VpKbIMc Formula 1 officials will look into producing rules that encourage more overtaking without resorting to artificial measures like the drag reduction system.
That is the claim of the league’s new sporting director Ross Brawn, one of the new chiefs in the post-Bernie Ecclestone era. Brawn told the French magazine Auto Hebdo he supports the much faster cars that have arrived this season but fears the improved downforce will mean overtaking is more difficult than ever before. "If it turns out that is the case, then that will motivate the search for solutions," said Brawn. "It's a difficult problem because we want to have cars that are quick but that can follow their opponents on the track. "Is there a solution? Yes, but we need to put together the right people and give them a year and a half to find the answer." Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/formula-one/formula-1-seeks-create-passing-committee#ixzz53VpOe9AU View Quote |
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Whos ass did he have to kiss to get this?
Daniil Kvyat back in Formula 1 as he joins Ferrari as development driver Daniil Kvyat has been handed a surprise Formula 1 lifeline by Ferrari after being confirmed as the team's new development driver.
The announcement comes just three months after the Russian was axed by Toro Rosso and rules out the prospect of Kvyat, who has two podiums and 133 points in his 72 career starts, taking the 2018 Williams seat. Ferrari have not yet specified what they expect of Kvyat this season, but he joins Charles Leclerc and Antonio Giovinazzi in the Scuderia's reserve ranks. View Quote |
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Whos ass did he have to kiss to get this? Daniil Kvyat back in Formula 1 as he joins Ferrari as development driver View Quote And since i hadn't posted yet, The halo sucks. |
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Whos ass did he have to kiss to get this? Daniil Kvyat back in Formula 1 as he joins Ferrari as development driver View Quote |
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I wonder if Vettel wanted this to keep Kvyat off the track during races. He cannot repeatedly rear end Vettel if he doesn't start. I imagine that they may not be overly friendly in the paddock though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Whos ass did he have to kiss to get this? Daniil Kvyat back in Formula 1 as he joins Ferrari as development driver |
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No, but he can destroy his car during FP1, when development drivers usually drive the cars. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Whos ass did he have to kiss to get this? Daniil Kvyat back in Formula 1 as he joins Ferrari as development driver |
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View Quote If they really want to be America's F1 team I think at least 1 American driver would be in order. |
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View Quote Newgarden Rossi Rahal Four Americans who could drive in F1 right now. So could Scott Dixon and he’d probably be quite good. |
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They really are trying to make it as difficult as possible to remain fans...
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Any word on Indycar adopting the halo?
After we lost Justin Wilson, there was a lot of concern. Understandably so. |
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DThHDZWX4AEdlpc.jpg View Quote And get rid of the halos, electric motors and turbos while you are at it. Make F1 Great Again! |
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Okay, I think we're ALL in agreement on this. Do we have any non-devil's-advocate halo supporters?? Come out and face your beating. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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The current formula is a little boring. The cars are faster than ever but the racing is boring and it’s a total Mercedes fest. I’m hoping Ferrari fixes themselves (which is something since I can’t stand them) and can actually challenge down the stretch.
The halo and no shark fin is a step backwards. Meanwhile, indycar is making all the right moves, hopefully: new aero kit that reduces downforce, gorgeous new styling, etc. The videos coming out of pre-season testing look amazing with the cars sliding all over the place. Hopefully that will actually give us some great racing. I’m not holding out hope for a similar result in formula 1. |
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The current formula is a little boring. The cars are faster than ever but the racing is boring and it's a total Mercedes fest. I'm hoping Ferrari fixes themselves (which is something since I can't stand them) and can actually challenge down the stretch. The halo and no shark fin is a step backwards. Meanwhile, indycar is making all the right moves, hopefully: new aero kit that reduces downforce, gorgeous new styling, etc. The videos coming out of pre-season testing look amazing with the cars sliding all over the place. Hopefully that will actually give us some great racing. I'm not holding out hope for a similar result in formula 1. View Quote |
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Williams officialy announce Sergey Sirotkin as 2nd driver
Williams also officialy announce Kubica as reserve and development driver While bummed Kubica was bumped by a Russian, did anyone ever imagine he'd make it this far back into F1 after his rallying accident? I hope to see him in some practice sessions and hopefully completing a race in 2018. |
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Merc teasing the W09. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/334296/C1DC252C-42AB-4DFC-A45F-9370C3968090-424200.JPG View Quote |
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First!!! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/162439/5728c8dabf5803ba99763500a760f758-408326.JPG View Quote I don't pay that much attention to F1 any more, and I saw this picture and went momentarily insane. I quickly recovered, certain that this was some kind of testing mule. This absurdity is real? Is this real life? |
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Ok wait. I don't pay that much attention to F1 any more, and I saw this picture and went momentarily insane. I quickly recovered, certain that this was some kind of testing mule. This absurdity is real? Is this real life? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't pay that much attention to F1 any more, and I saw this picture and went momentarily insane. I quickly recovered, certain that this was some kind of testing mule. This absurdity is real? Is this real life? |
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I'm not a fan of the halo, but the FIA did say the halo isn't necessarily a permanent answer. They backed themselves into a corner with time tables that they put out and had to pick something. However I think the reality is we're going to be stuck with some sort of protective covering now that it's here. If they took it off for 2019 and someone gets hit with a tire or something and is injured or even killed, that could unfortunately open Liberty Media/FIA to liability. View Quote Simply Have all drivers willing to race sign a paper... |
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I know fully electric engines are even lamer than V6s, but Formula E just started a couple weeks ago. Tight road courses and comparably competitive cars...it's actually decent racing once you get used to the (lack of) sound. View Quote The fact that they mostly go on city tracks is another. It's formula S like shit not formula E |
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It would be faster if it had hypersofts on it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Merc teasing the W09. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/334296/C1DC252C-42AB-4DFC-A45F-9370C3968090-424200.JPG Depends on the conditions and track. There were a few races last season where the lap times Counter intuitive, but the times came down on the softs compared to the super and ultra softs |
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I know fully electric engines are even lamer than V6s, but Formula E just started a couple weeks ago. Tight road courses and comparably competitive cars...it's actually decent racing once you get used to the (lack of) sound. View Quote Nah... FE sound makes V6s sound slightly less than utterly farty/shitty. They both suck (to listen to). |
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Quoted: My ass. Simply Have all drivers willing to race sign a paper... View Quote I'm not saying that it doesn't take balls and skill to race Formula One (or any other form of high speed racing). But the level of commitment and willingness to pay the ultimate price for one's passion isn't even in the same universe. When guys race and it's the expectation that they'll climb out of their cars and walk away (Alonso's crash being a prime example of that safety factor), that by definition takes less balls then the expectation that you'll be seriously maimed or killed if you make a mistake. Guys like Kvyat, Maldonado, and even Max are proof of that difference. They're young, so fear doesn't play the same role as it generally does with older guys. But they were raised in the world of Karting and sim racing, where mistakes aren't likely to result in your death. While guys like Jon McGuinness and Guy Martin are letting it ALL hang out there. Valentino Rossi and Sebastian Vettel are my two main racing heros. But the amount of risk they're taking and the commitment aren't anywhere close to the TT racers. Also, besides TT racing happening on "virgin" roads, with no shoulders, going rightt through towns... it's truly all for racing glory. The money sure can't be that great. That makes it a far more "pure" form of racing in my opinion. It's only an opinion, but nevertheless... as a racing fan that's my prerogative. No guts, no glory!!! Btw... McGuinness is my favorite "pure" racer. The guy is friggin OLD (by athletic standards) and I can't believe the kind of balls it would take to race at his level at ANY age, much less his age. It's ridiculous. Also... I don't root for ANY racer to be injured or die (though I wouldn't mind seeing Ham fall down and break a wrist during a drunken Hollywood party). But then again... racing (and football, and every other sport) is becoming so sanitized that it borders on completely boring. As opposed to on-bike footage on the Isle of Man... where it looks like everything has been sped up... as the bikes are flying within inches of stone fences, walls, people, animals, trees, etc, etc, etc. The excitement factor as a fan is immensely more for me than watching cars/bikes go around tracks with very few things flying buy in close proximity to give the perspective of speed. Sure, there are places like Monaco and Singapore on the F1 calendar. But it's still just not the same. I still watch. But I don't get near as excited to watch as I do for the TT. |
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Quoted: Yup. Racing used to be a man's (GLADIATOR'S) sport, reserved for men with 'YUGE balls of brass. You can still find that kind of racing, but it's not on tracks with wide, sandy run-out areas and padded barriers. It's on the Isle of Man. I'm not saying that it doesn't take balls and skill to race Formula One (or any other form of high speed racing). But the level of commitment and willingness to pay the ultimate price for one's passion isn't even in the same universe. When guys race and it's the expectation that they'll climb out of their cars and walk away (Alonso's crash being a prime example of that safety factor), that by definition takes less balls then the expectation that you'll be seriously maimed or killed if you make a mistake. Guys like Kvyat, Maldonado, and even Max are proof of that difference. They're young, so fear doesn't play the same role as it generally does with older guys. But they were raised in the world of Karting and sim racing, where mistakes aren't likely to result in your death. While guys like Jon McGuinness and Guy Martin are letting it ALL hang out there. Valentino Rossi and Sebastian Vettel are my two main racing heros. But the amount of risk they're taking and the commitment aren't anywhere close to the TT racers. Also, besides TT racing happening on "virgin" roads, with no shoulders, going rightt through towns... it's truly all for racing glory. The money sure can't be that great. That makes it a far more "pure" form of racing in my opinion. It's only an opinion, but nevertheless... as a racing fan that's my prerogative. No guts, no glory!!! Btw... McGuinness is my favorite "pure" racer. The guy is friggin OLD (by athletic standards) and I can't believe the kind of balls it would take to race at his level at ANY age, much less his age. It's ridiculous. Also... I don't root for ANY racer to be injured or die (though I wouldn't mind seeing Ham fall down and break a wrist during a drunken Hollywood party). But then again... racing (and football, and every other sport) is becoming so sanitized that it borders on completely boring. As opposed to on-bike footage on the Isle of Man... where it looks like everything has been sped up... as the bikes are flying within inches of stone fences, walls, people, animals, trees, etc, etc, etc. The excitement factor as a fan is immensely more for me than watching cars/bikes go around tracks with very few things flying buy in close proximity to give the perspective of speed. Sure, there are places like Monaco and Singapore on the F1 calendar. But it's still just not the same. I still watch. But I don't get near as excited to watch as I do for the TT. View Quote |
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