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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:24:08 AM EDT
Divided island: How Haiti and the DR became two worlds


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Video makes it seem that it's nothing but a bunch of white guilt tripping. That Haiti is the complete failure it is today because of racism by the white man. Makes no mention of how Haiti after gaining independence from France instituted slavery amongst its own people. Nor how Haiti took over the Spanish side of the island. Or how the US has intervened in Haiti a number of times to rebuild the country just to watch it all collapse.

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Am I supposed to know who VOX is?
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 8:28:26 AM EDT
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Yet they neglect to mention that the Dominican Republic, on the exact same island with the exact same early history of Haiti is not a shit hole. Why?
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im pretty sure its hipster, millennial "news" on hbo
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The enemy.
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 8:30:30 AM EDT
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im pretty sure its hipster, millennial "news" on hbo
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im pretty sure its hipster, millennial "news" on hbo
That's VICE.
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 8:31:44 AM EDT
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Haiti is what happens when paternalistic white liberals try to save 17th century Africans from themselves.
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 8:31:59 AM EDT
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After that hurricane or whatever it was that wiped Haiti out, didn't we send them enough aid to give every single Haitian something like $150k USD or something absurd like that?
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 8:33:34 AM EDT
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NOthing on Hillary making millions off the earthquake?
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 8:38:17 AM EDT
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They blame the white man/western world for the failure of everything around the world. Honestly I wouldn't mind take some heat for some bad events now and then if they would at least acknowledge all of the great this we do for the world, you know, plans, trains, cars, space travel, internet, cell phones, computers, landing on the moon, microwaves, medicine, etc...

I challenge you to stop where you are right now, do a 360 spin and try and find me something that WASNET invented by western culture. Unless you're standing next to a dung covered hut you're probably not going to find anything.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WvKeYuwifc

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Video makes it seem that it's nothing but a bunch of white guilt tripping. That Haiti is the complete failure it is today because of racism by the white man. Makes no mention of how Haiti after gaining independence from France instituted slavery amongst its own people. Nor how Haiti took over the Spanish side of the island. Or how the US has intervened in Haiti a number of times to rebuild the country just to watch it all collapse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJLh3QCNgM
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I didn't know you are an 88.
Did you really just post a video calling blacks "Sub-humans?"
Yes you did.
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 8:51:51 AM EDT
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Been there 6 times, got caught in the middle of a coup while at the airport leaving, guy walked in and fired half a magazine out of a G3 into the ceiling to get everyones attention. Had to stay another week til they took the APC's off the middle ofvthe runway. Haiti hits you right in the face when you exit the aircraft...hot, humid and OMG the smell...its not jetfuel...next time I came bullet holes still in the ceiling.

Might be dedicating the entire country to Satan a while back that sealed its fate. Voodoo us everywhere.
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 8:53:54 AM EDT
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sounds like a little bit of Africa in the Caribbean.

US has dumped an assload of govt cash into that hell hole.

Ton Ton Macoute any one?
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 8:58:06 AM EDT
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Why is the DR so much more successful?
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I didn't know you are an 88.
Did you really just post a video calling blacks "Sub-humans?"
Yes you did.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WvKeYuwifc

LOL

Video makes it seem that it's nothing but a bunch of white guilt tripping. That Haiti is the complete failure it is today because of racism by the white man. Makes no mention of how Haiti after gaining independence from France instituted slavery amongst its own people. Nor how Haiti took over the Spanish side of the island. Or how the US has intervened in Haiti a number of times to rebuild the country just to watch it all collapse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJLh3QCNgM


I didn't know you are an 88.
Did you really just post a video calling blacks "Sub-humans?"
Yes you did.
LOL...

Meet my wife.



Try again
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sounds like a little bit of Africa in the Caribbean.

US has dumped an assload of govt cash into that hell hole.

Ton Ton Macoute any one?
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Haiti is the Western Hemisphere's Somalia. It is a failed state.
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Meet my wife.

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Game
Set
Match
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Because they keep Haitians out.
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Because they keep Haitians out.
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Because they keep Haitians out.
Pretty much....

The DR is not perfect by any means but it is a hell of a lot better than Haiti. Culture and history plays into it. The Dominican Republic is primarily Spanish ancestry. Haiti is African due to the slaughtering and removal of anything remotely related to French ancestry. 

Haitians removed the best parts of their culture and society and kept the worst parts. Other than the language, they have nothing in common with France. The Dominicans kept their Spanish heritage and foundations in place. 
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Meet my wife.

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I'm not saying you're racist, but that video you posted was racist as shit.  I mean, way, wayyy out there.  In fairness, it's conclusions were not far off the mark, but it rode bus 88 to get there.

ETA: The first video was comically the exact opposite.  That homo was wearing Lululemon pants.  WTF?

ETAA: No offense to the homos here.
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Pretty much....

The DR is not perfect by any means but it is a hell of a lot better than Haiti. Culture and history plays into it. The Dominican Republic is primarily Spanish ancestry. Haiti is African due to the slaughtering and removal of anything remotely related to French ancestry. 

Haitians removed the best parts of their culture and society and kept the worst parts. Other than the language, they have nothing in common with France. The Dominicans kept their Spanish heritage and foundations in place. 
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I think a better example is Jamaica and the Cayman Islands. They were both British colonies. They both voted for independence. Jamaica  voted to be independent, while the Caymans voted to stay a colony. Look at them now.
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I'm not saying you're racist, but that video you posted was racist as shit.  I mean, way, wayyy out there.  In fairness, it's conclusions were not far off the mark, but it rode bus 88 to get there.

ETA: The first video was comically the exact opposite.  That homo was wearing Lululemon pants.  WTF?

ETAA: No offense to the homos here.
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I watched it.  You're full of shit.  

Racism isn't the description of differences of cultures, abilities, histories and tendencies.  It's hating someone due to race.  It's refusing to give someone a job due to race.  It's an action that is driven due to the race rather than other aspects of the situation.

EDIT- At one point the video quotes a book from 1915 that asks the question 'after 100 years, what progress has the black man made?'

We could ask that same question today.  Is that racist?  What action do I take in asking that question that makes me racist?
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 11:31:50 AM EDT
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Doesn't most of Haiti's population have an IQ that makes them borderline retarded?
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Racism isn't the description of differences of cultures, abilities, histories and tendencies.  It's hating someone due to race.  It's refusing to give someone a job due to race.  It's an action that is driven due to the race rather than other aspects of the situation.
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Wrong.

What you've described is not racism, it's prejudice or bigotry.

Words have meaning.
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RACIST!
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 11:36:13 AM EDT
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Vox, and all of its properties are shit. They are the new Gawker Media.
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Vox = ProPublica, Salon & Huffpo or CNN & NPR on steroids
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After that hurricane or whatever it was that wiped Haiti out, didn't we send them enough aid to give every single Haitian something like $150k USD or something absurd like that?
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I think the Clinton Foundation kept 97% of hatcmkney for themselves.
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Wrong.

What you've described is not racism, it's prejudice or bigotry.

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Wouldn't the prejudice or bigotry based only on race be racism?  Are you arguing that reading history and making conclusions that are unpopular in today's climate is actually a purely racist action?

I'm saying the guy studied the history of the people in Haiti and made assumptions.  Those assumptions are not complimentary to blacks and he makes no apology for that.  In order for him to branded as 'racists' he'd have to perform an action for or against a person that is driven by race.  All he did was state that the black cultures have never been successful when they abandon white influence.  That's true.  Is truth racist, or just truth?
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I think a better example is Jamaica and the Cayman Islands. They were both British colonies. They both voted for independence. Jamaica  voted to be independent, while the Caymans voted to stay a colony. Look at them now.
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Pretty much....

The DR is not perfect by any means but it is a hell of a lot better than Haiti. Culture and history plays into it. The Dominican Republic is primarily Spanish ancestry. Haiti is African due to the slaughtering and removal of anything remotely related to French ancestry. 

Haitians removed the best parts of their culture and society and kept the worst parts. Other than the language, they have nothing in common with France. The Dominicans kept their Spanish heritage and foundations in place. 
I think a better example is Jamaica and the Cayman Islands. They were both British colonies. They both voted for independence. Jamaica  voted to be independent, while the Caymans voted to stay a colony. Look at them now.
We should have stayed with Britain: Shock poll reveals 60% of Jamaicans think they'd be better as a colony 
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 2:04:40 PM EDT
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Had one Haitian worker and he was a lazy, litigious POS.
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Correct.
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 2:08:51 PM EDT
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I believe Jimmy Carter stopped us from fixing Haiti...
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I've had Haitians in Miami tell me the following.

Only way to "fix" Haiti is to take anyone under the age of three and separate them from everyone else. Exterminate the population. Rebuild the island, and while that is all going on educate the children to not be like their forefathers. Once they are adults. Give them Haiti. 
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Wouldn't the prejudice or bigotry based only on race be racism?  Are you arguing that reading history and making conclusions that are unpopular in today's climate is actually a purely racist action?

I'm saying the guy studied the history of the people in Haiti and made assumptions.  Those assumptions are not complimentary to blacks and he makes no apology for that.  In order for him to branded as 'racists' he'd have to perform an action for or against a person that is driven by race.  All he did was state that the black cultures have never been successful when they abandon white influence.  That's true.  Is truth racist, or just truth?
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Wrong.

What you've described is not racism, it's prejudice or bigotry.

Words have meaning.
Wouldn't the prejudice or bigotry based only on race be racism?  Are you arguing that reading history and making conclusions that are unpopular in today's climate is actually a purely racist action?

I'm saying the guy studied the history of the people in Haiti and made assumptions.  Those assumptions are not complimentary to blacks and he makes no apology for that.  In order for him to branded as 'racists' he'd have to perform an action for or against a person that is driven by race.  All he did was state that the black cultures have never been successful when they abandon white influence.  That's true.  Is truth racist, or just truth?
Pierce is a known bigot. If you didn't know, he founded the National Alliance and he wrote the Turner Dairies. So, I think it is hilarious that JBT is using him as a source. He is a bias source.

Sometimes you have to do your own research.
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the direction they take the viewer would suggest commies.
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 4:28:09 PM EDT
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Haiti is what happens when paternalistic white liberals try to save 17th century Africans from themselves.
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Frenchmen. The French side went to shit. the Spanish side did better. What's the diff? The French Revolution. The starting point of all that commie/ socialism shit.
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Spaniards.
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 4:29:02 PM EDT
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Can't watch clip,but does it talk about the ethnic cleansing where the black population slaughtered every white man, woman and child on the island. 100% genoside even murdered whites who helped them.

Then ate mud until de white debil helped them again.
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I didn't know you are an 88.
Did you really just post a video calling blacks "Sub-humans?"
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Wow someone posts a video and you call them a nazi, not all white power people are socialist geez  
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 5:17:20 PM EDT
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Who watches Vox anymore?
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Yet they neglect to mention that the Dominican Republic, on the exact same island with the exact same early history of Haiti is not a shit hole. Why?
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Because the French were even worse than the Spanish as colonial overlords, if you can believe it.  And Belgium was worse than France. (Ref. Congo)

The Haitians run Haiti exactly the way the French taught them - one big plantation, with a headman.  We enforced that with our various interventions because "they can't help themselves."

(Placeholder for when I worked at a Very Large Humanitarian Organization and got tangentially involved after the earthquake. Teaser: "Lesbians deciding the best way to help dark people was to not help them, but help them help themselves.")

The only thing that will fix Haiti is the Haitians - IF they are left alone.  Both for good and ill.
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I've had Haitians in Miami tell me the following.

Only way to "fix" Haiti is to take anyone under the age of three and separate them from everyone else. Exterminate the population. Rebuild the island, and while that is all going on educate the children to not be like their forefathers. Once they are adults. Give them Haiti. 
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I've had Haitians in Miami tell me the following.

Only way to "fix" Haiti is to take anyone under the age of three and separate them from everyone else. Exterminate the population. Rebuild the island, and while that is all going on educate the children to not be like their forefathers. Once they are adults. Give them Haiti. 
I won't jump on the race part of all this. However, to my understand Haiti has always been a pretty rough place.  Out of all the african folks that were soldiers there always seemed to be a special warning set aside for Haitians.
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Actually white people are the problem.  Well, not all of them, just two.  Bill (is a rapist, Inforwars.com) and Hillary Clinton.
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Can't watch clip,but does it talk about the ethnic cleansing where the black population slaughtered every white man, woman and child on the island. 100% genoside even murdered whites who helped them.

Then ate mud until de white debil helped them again.
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They killed every white person they could find then enslaved each other. 
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Haitians are Haiti's biggest problem...
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Meet my wife.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WvKeYuwifc

LOL

Video makes it seem that it's nothing but a bunch of white guilt tripping. That Haiti is the complete failure it is today because of racism by the white man. Makes no mention of how Haiti after gaining independence from France instituted slavery amongst its own people. Nor how Haiti took over the Spanish side of the island. Or how the US has intervened in Haiti a number of times to rebuild the country just to watch it all collapse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJLh3QCNgM


I didn't know you are an 88.
Did you really just post a video calling blacks "Sub-humans?"
Yes you did.
LOL...

Meet my wife.

https://i.imgur.com/0kppnTr.jpg

Try again
You still posted a video calling BLACKS sub human.
The color of your wife is irrelevant, she isn't BLACK.
Latino culture is very well know for it's racist attitudes .

I will continue to assume the same for you.
Link Posted: 10/20/2017 7:29:57 PM EDT
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The problem with Haiti is it's full of Hatians

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