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Posted: 10/20/2017 5:37:16 AM EDT

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/02/03/national/media-national/japans-suicide-statistics-dont-tell-the-real-story/#.WenB43Bx3ew

Posted: 10/20/2017 5:52:04 AM EDT

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How can this be..they are not allowed to have guns over there.

Posted: 10/20/2017 6:56:52 AM EDT

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Non issue

Posted: 10/20/2017 6:59:07 AM EDT

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High stress society. Asians have a strong sense of honor and shame. No surprise.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:01:53 AM EDT

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Japan has lots of dirty little secrets.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:03:30 AM EDT

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Funny thing is there are several hundred thousand registered firearms here. I’m going to buy some of them soon.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:03:41 AM EDT

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They talk the talk but don't always walk the walk on this one.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:10:47 AM EDT

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Maybe they should take all those little squares off their porn.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:12:28 AM EDT

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They talk the talk but don't always walk the walk on this one.

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High stress society. Asians have a strong sense of honor and shame. No surprise.

They talk the talk but don't always walk the walk on this one.

I wouldn’t say that applies to “Asians”

but it is definitely true of Japanese. Shame is so powerful here fatties usually won’t even leave their house.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:12:44 AM EDT

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It would seem a few laws or policies would need to be rewritten to cut down on whats basically fraud as an adjunct to murder. Also it seems the cops aren't really allowed to do their jobs by being constrained by cultural practices and limited resources.

Hiding shame which is a huge thing in their culture will be the toughest thing to overcome. Here in the US a kid gets a C in school they are praised for it, over there they're jumping out of windows. Throw money into that equation by way of insurance payoffs the temptation to either do someone in or do yourself is obviously way too high.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:14:23 AM EDT

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I wouldn’t say that applies to “Asians”

but it is definitely true of Japanese. Shame is so powerful here fatties usually won’t even leave their house.

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High stress society. Asians have a strong sense of honor and shame. No surprise.

They talk the talk but don't always walk the walk on this one.

I wouldn’t say that applies to “Asians”

but it is definitely true of Japanese. Shame is so powerful here fatties usually won’t even leave their house.

Here, I'd be happy if we could just shame the fatties into not wearing spandex.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:43:02 AM EDT

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Here, I'd be happy if we could just shame the fatties into not wearing spandex.

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High stress society. Asians have a strong sense of honor and shame. No surprise.

They talk the talk but don't always walk the walk on this one.

I wouldn’t say that applies to “Asians”

but it is definitely true of Japanese. Shame is so powerful here fatties usually won’t even leave their house.

Here, I'd be happy if we could just shame the fatties into not wearing spandex.

Obviously, you have never been in the barracks of an Infantry platoon. A fat chick in spandex is considered a prize. The bigger, the better. Especially sought after by the brothers.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:47:59 AM EDT

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Doesn't Japan have a suicide forest or something? I recall seeing a video of some creepy ass patch of woods where you can go to kill yourself.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:50:12 AM EDT

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Doesn't Japan have a suicide forest or something? I recall seeing a video of some creepy ass patch of woods where you can go to kill yourself.

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Yes.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:51:40 AM EDT

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Nothing new.
As far back as the early 1980's I remember hearing about Japan's high suicide rates.
Very stressful place to live evidently.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:55:51 AM EDT

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Nothing new.
As far back as the early 1980's I remember hearing about Japan's high suicide rates.
Very stressful place to live evidently.

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you didn't read the article I am betting.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:58:47 AM EDT

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The USA has plenty of its own dirty secrets and plenty right in the open.

Why distract us with white knighting for jap suicide prevention? Abosolutely zero fucks given - MAGA before all else.

Posted: 10/20/2017 7:59:14 AM EDT

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Over the years, I've read several times that the Japanese police play it fast and loose when it comes to their violent crime stats.

Japan definitely has a low violent crime rate - it's just not quite as low as their police would have you believe.

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:00:22 AM EDT

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How can this be..they are not allowed to have guns over there.

Funny thing is there are several hundred thousand registered firearms here. I’m going to buy some of them soon.

would you expand on this please?

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:01:38 AM EDT

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Over the years, I've read several times that the Japanese police play it fast and loose when it comes to their violent crime stats.

Japan definitely has a low violent crime rate - it's just not quite as low as their police would have you believe.

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Most suicides are deaths by “natural causes”. Honesty would cause dishonor to their family.

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:02:35 AM EDT

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you didn't read the article I am betting.

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Read the article?

Where do you think you are?

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:03:11 AM EDT

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would you expand on this please?

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How can this be..they are not allowed to have guns over there.

Funny thing is there are several hundred thousand registered firearms here. I’m going to buy some of them soon.

would you expand on this please?

Rifles and pistols are pretty much a no-go, but there a ton of shotguns and air rifles (lol) registered here. I am joining a club that buys the heck out of shotguns here.

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:05:00 AM EDT

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you didn't read the article I am betting.

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Yeah.. 'Suicides' here is not the issue...

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:05:36 AM EDT

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The USA has plenty of its own dirty secrets and plenty right in the open.

Why distract us with white knighting for jap suicide prevention? Abosolutely zero fucks given - MAGA before all else.

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It's not about 'suicides' really...

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:08:32 AM EDT

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Thought this thread would be about panties and vending machines.

Or tentacle porn.

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:21:36 AM EDT

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Frederica Wilson wouldn't have been elected in Japan. They do some things right.

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:35:41 AM EDT

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Article is not entirely about suicide, it is also about suicide disguised as homicide.

Interestingly they had 27k suicides. That mirrors the US in gun deaths whether suicide or homicide, with a smaller population.

So, even without gubs people will kill themeselves and others.

I'll file this under no duh.

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:53:40 AM EDT

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If I worked long hours, every day, and went home to a shoe box in a high rise... I'd off myself too.

Or become a murderer for fun, since I'd have nothing to lose. (article topic)

Or just move to the US and have a good life.

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:55:45 AM EDT

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If I worked long hours, every day, and went home to a shoe box in a high rise... I'd off myself too.

Or become a murderer for fun, since I'd have nothing to lose. (article topic)

Or just move to the US and have a good life.

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That last part is kind of a motherfucker, if you didn’t know.

Posted: 10/20/2017 8:57:37 AM EDT

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Yeah they do!

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:01:35 AM EDT

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Over the years, I've read several times that the Japanese police play it fast and loose when it comes to their violent crime stats.

Japan definitely has a low violent crime rate - it's just not quite as low as their police would have you believe.

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Ties into their 99% confession rate. That means if they decide you are the guilty one they torture you until you'll say you did anything to make it stop. And thanks to the saving face culture even if you were proven innocent later, you'll still never see the light of day because then they'd lose face. You do not want to end up there.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:03:41 AM EDT

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Over the years, I've read several times that the Japanese police play it fast and loose when it comes to their violent crime stats.

Japan definitely has a low violent crime rate - it's just not quite as low as their police would have you believe.

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Imagine your clearance rate if solving a case was a matter of you grabbing a random criminal off the street, phone book him into admitting to the Lufthansa Heist, and the judge buys it and the criminals attitude is "I was going to get pinched for something, thems the breaks."

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:06:02 AM EDT

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Imagine your clearance rate if solving a case was a matter of you grabbing a random criminal off the street, phone book him into admitting to the Lufthansa Heist, and the judge buys it and the criminals attitude is "I was going to get pinched for something, thems the breaks."

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Should I be sad that career criminals in Japan have a higher sense of civic duty than most active duty servicemembers in the US?

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:07:36 AM EDT

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I see you have wings for your Hawking.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:12:12 AM EDT

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So Japan covers up murders by calling them Suicides.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:18:56 AM EDT

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Ties into their 99% confession rate. That means if they decide you are the guilty one they torture you until you'll say you did anything to make it stop. And thanks to the saving face culture even if you were proven innocent later, you'll still never see the light of day because then they'd lose face. You do not want to end up there.

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Much agreement ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ There is no 5th amendment as such in Japan.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:21:58 AM EDT

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Want to read article, but link constantly gives my phone nothing but popups

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:23:51 AM EDT

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I thought this thread would be about the grown men that idolize young girls and give them all their money.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:28:30 AM EDT

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Not anymore. You're thinking of the WWII generation that has since been followed by the Americanized Japanese with their American instituted and ingrained pacifism. They don't have a military, they have a "Self Defense Force" as mandated in their US mandated constitution after the loss of WWII.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:29:05 AM EDT

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Their culture is very interesting.

Will take the blame for life just not to say I screwed up.

While we're were standing on the tracks in Nagoya, a Japanese coworker said that if someone kills themselve the family must pay any late fees or damage that occurs if they do it by train.

Weird stuff.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:31:34 AM EDT

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How can this be..they are not allowed to have guns over there.

Funny thing is there are several hundred thousand registered firearms here. I’m going to buy some of them soon.

What? Like this:

Or this:

Or these:

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:31:35 AM EDT

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Not anymore. You're thinking of the WWII generation that has since been followed by the Americanized Japanese with their American instituted and ingrained pacifism. They don't have a military, they have a "Self Defense Force" as mandated in their US mandated constitution after the loss of WWII.

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He's still right.

Also.

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Posted: 10/20/2017 9:31:37 AM EDT

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This thread need more tentacle porn.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:37:13 AM EDT

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Doesn't Japan have a suicide forest or something? I recall seeing a video of some creepy ass patch of woods where you can go to kill yourself.

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Aokigahara Forest at the base of Mt. Fuji. There was segment on Josh Gates' show "Destination Truth" where he and his team went there. Deposits of iron ore or something was causing their compasses to constantly spin. Because of that and the vast, dense forest, with many meandering trails, it was easy to get lost in there. They found a tent which was abandoned with a lot of personal items left inside as well as a hole in the ground with pictures of people and ID's placed inside. Pretty creepy area. According to the police a lot of people go in there to commit suicide and they even have a sign posted to discourage it, which obviously doesn't help.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:47:52 AM EDT

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Rifles and pistols are pretty much a no-go, but there a ton of shotguns and air rifles (lol) registered here. I am joining a club that buys the heck out of shotguns here.

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An air rifle is definitely "not" a "gun." Can you buy shotguns like these?

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:48:23 AM EDT

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Rifles and pistols are pretty much a no-go, but there a ton of shotguns and air rifles (lol) registered here. I am joining a club that buys the heck out of shotguns here.

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We got some nice centerfire rifles in Oki

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:48:48 AM EDT

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Frederica Wilson wouldn't have been elected in Japan. They do some things right.

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They wouldn't even let her immigrate over there to begin with.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:50:42 AM EDT

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An air rifle is definitely "not" a "gun." Can you buy shotguns like these?
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Rifles and pistols are pretty much a no-go, but there a ton of shotguns and air rifles (lol) registered here. I am joining a club that buys the heck out of shotguns here.

An air rifle is definitely "not" a "gun." Can you buy shotguns like these?
https://ssdinternationalinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/11711-1.png
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I’ve got my benelli m4 and Saiga 12 already. I’m going to buy some beautiful fudd shotgun over unders and side by sides for prices that would make you cry, and send them straight to the US on an ATF form.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:51:06 AM EDT

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Doesn't Japan have a suicide forest or something? I recall seeing a video of some creepy ass patch of woods where you can go to kill yourself.

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Best I remember, I think it's at the foot of Mt Fugi.

Posted: 10/20/2017 9:56:33 AM EDT

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from the article it says insurance companies are forced to pay out for suicides. causing most murders to be staged as suicides.

Posted: 10/20/2017 10:02:35 AM EDT

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A couple years ago, I remember a story about a japanese soldier accidently dropping a single round of ammunition from a hand gun or rifle out of a helicopter. The Army there spent untold masses of money mobiling infantry to find that bullet. Can someone find this article? I can't seem to find it anymore.

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