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Posted: 10/19/2017 3:28:16 PM EDT
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Well, you could remain uninformed , or you could educate yourself. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the Marines. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand the AF. I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the Marines. There is a quote about Marines that is very true. "There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines-- Marines and their enemies. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion" Those giant sword pics make me wonder, "What the hell...?" |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 6:53:19 PM EDT
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Damn, those things would require a lot of tape. 
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Posted: 10/19/2017 8:32:45 PM EDT
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More of our taxes are wasted on other bullshit. This is for the best of the best leaders. So chillax. You realize you can pay extra taxes if you want; just write a check to the IRS. However, I'd prefer my tax dollars weren't wasted on silly shit like this |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 8:54:58 PM EDT
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Oh yeah, that's absolutely the best rationalization? You realize you can pay extra taxes if you want; just write a check to the IRS. However, I'd prefer my tax dollars weren't wasted on silly shit like this |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 9:03:38 PM EDT
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Those swords are
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:39:45 PM EDT
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Which late night infomerical did they order those from? 
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:52:04 PM EDT
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...I believe I have a fairly good understanding of the Marines. Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:53:44 PM EDT
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There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion. Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:56:11 PM EDT
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So for better chairs for enlisted, the commanders get a ridiculous sword that is unwieldy? Unnecessary and irrational. Marines scoff at these ceremonies. They do not compare to the Running of the Boot, Field God Sacrifices or the ever classy SNCO Retirement at the Purple Church or Driftwood. 
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:57:55 PM EDT
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Where does the Dependapotamus fit in? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion. Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 10:58:51 PM EDT
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Were golf clubs unavailable ?
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:01:54 PM EDT
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Suck weasel bullshit.
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:09:30 PM EDT
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LOL So all the E's get to vote on it? Edit: OK so it's the NCO's who do. Looks like McPeak got one. I though he was near universally disliked. 
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:10:44 PM EDT
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Haters gona hate. I'm sure none of the other service branches have traditions that make you say...Hummmmm??????????? You know, Like the Navy crossing the equator. The whole poly-wog and king Neptune thing
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:21:29 PM EDT
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By the power of Gray Skull... 
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:23:27 PM EDT
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Haters gona hate. I'm sure none of the other service branches have traditions that make you say...Hummmmm??????????? You know, Like the Navy crossing the equator. The whole poly-wog and king Neptune thing |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:24:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:25:51 PM EDT
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Damn, those things would require a lot of tape. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:30:11 PM EDT
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Air Force is gay. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:41:37 PM EDT
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That would be the Line-Crossing Ceremony. Makes perfect sense, actually. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Haters gona hate. I'm sure none of the other service branches have traditions that make you say...Hummmmm??????????? You know, Like the Navy crossing the equator. The whole poly-wog and king Neptune thing  
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:44:54 PM EDT
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That would be the Line-Crossing Ceremony. Makes perfect sense, actually. To those of us that were, or are, in the "civilian" branch of the service, as a Marine friend of mine refered to us, it makes no sense and seems, shall we say, rather silly. |
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Posted: 10/19/2017 11:59:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:11:33 AM EDT
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Suck weasel bullshit. Zero: "So, uh, I'm getting ready to leave. You guys think I'm awesome, right?" E-wannabe-9's: "Oh, uh, hell yeah! Here, have this cartoonish, oversized sword as a symbol of our respect, boss!" Zero: "You like me! You really like me!" Still, why not. For the "muh tax pennies" crowd, unit awards are typically funded through a collection. I have no reason to think this is any different. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:28:28 AM EDT
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Nailed it. Zero: "So, uh, I'm getting ready to leave. You guys think I'm awesome, right?" E-wannabe-9's: "Oh, uh, hell yeah! Here, have this cartoonish, oversized sword as a symbol of our respect, boss!" Zero: "You like me! You really like me!" Still, why not. For the "muh tax pennies" crowd, unit awards are typically funded through a collection. I have no reason to think this is any different. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Suck weasel bullshit. Zero: "So, uh, I'm getting ready to leave. You guys think I'm awesome, right?" E-wannabe-9's: "Oh, uh, hell yeah! Here, have this cartoonish, oversized sword as a symbol of our respect, boss!" Zero: "You like me! You really like me!" Still, why not. For the "muh tax pennies" crowd, unit awards are typically funded through a collection. I have no reason to think this is any different. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:36:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:37:10 AM EDT
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The AF as an institution has a serious need for shared hardship and experiences - especially objective accomplishments - among units. Without it, you get these weird fraternity rituals to compensate. 
The Air Force does stuff that nobody else can do and does it well. It can be proud of that. It can stop trying to be something other than what it is and never can be. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:38:37 AM EDT
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Where is @sylvan?
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:47:08 AM EDT
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I love the second picture. The general's wife looks like she's afraid they're going to behead someone. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 12:51:43 AM EDT
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All i want to know is what is the damage multiplier on that lightning blade?
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Posted: 10/20/2017 1:05:59 AM EDT
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All i want to know is what is the damage multiplier on that lightning blade? |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 3:24:04 AM EDT
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And you get Air Force Security Police saying that they're "basically infantry" without the slightest hint of irony.
The Air Force does stuff that nobody else can do and does it well. It can be proud of that. It can stop trying to be something other than what it is and never can be. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The AF as an institution has a serious need for shared hardship and experiences - especially objective accomplishments - among units. Without it, you get these weird fraternity rituals to compensate.
The Air Force does stuff that nobody else can do and does it well. It can be proud of that. It can stop trying to be something other than what it is and never can be. Insofar as to the appearance of these swords, I would say their gaudiness can be attributed to a lack of modern understanding of the sword and the typical Air Force mentality of always out doing the last guy. Even though the Order of the Sword is a high honor, someone should really take a step back and think before they design the sword and not make it look like something out of a weird Japanese cartoon. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 5:24:43 AM EDT
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I'm in the Security Forces and I hate that "We're basically infantry." bullshit. Yes I've been trained in infantry tactics, but I've also been trained to guard nukes and write speeding tickets too. I have to know how everything from how to use our weapon systems, how to employ them properly in a squad sized element, secure flightlines and resources, and to also be able to perform the myriad of tasks within law enforcement. My career field is a mashed up, neither fish nor fowl conglomeration of, "Oh you guys have guns, make sure nothing happens to our stuff and people." My wife was an xray tech, she just had to know her job. I have to know three different modalities of my career field and somehow balance them on a day to day basis. So no, I'm not infantry never have and never will be. And I also hate the fucking waterheads in my career field who spout that damn line. Insofar as to the appearance of these swords, I would say their gaudiness can be attributed to a lack of modern understanding of the sword and the typical Air Force mentality of always out doing the last guy. Even though the Order of the Sword is a high honor, someone should really take a step back and think before they design the sword and not make it look like something out of a weird Japanese cartoon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The AF as an institution has a serious need for shared hardship and experiences - especially objective accomplishments - among units. Without it, you get these weird fraternity rituals to compensate.
The Air Force does stuff that nobody else can do and does it well. It can be proud of that. It can stop trying to be something other than what it is and never can be. Insofar as to the appearance of these swords, I would say their gaudiness can be attributed to a lack of modern understanding of the sword and the typical Air Force mentality of always out doing the last guy. Even though the Order of the Sword is a high honor, someone should really take a step back and think before they design the sword and not make it look like something out of a weird Japanese cartoon. And the sword... why a sword? The service is air-focused. So much to draw from to create a tradition. Instead, it’s “cartoonish version of hand to hand combat implement that the other services have actually issued and used in their history.” |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 5:52:36 AM EDT
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Bohr_Adam, I couldn't agree more my friend.
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Posted: 10/20/2017 6:25:28 AM EDT
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Gay mafia has infiltrated the USAF.
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Posted: 10/20/2017 6:34:07 AM EDT
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All jokes aside these are photos of an Order of the Sword ceremony. This ceremony is done to honor commanders by enlisted personnel who have done an extremely fine job leading their units or commands. They appear in the photos to be unit level awards but the main Air Force award is a big deal. Only 200 people since the 1970's have been awarded this. The unit level swords you see in the photos appear gaudy, but it is still an honor. Most times a commander leaves a unit with trinkets or a signed lithograph, not something like this. This is an honor most commanders will never see in their careers. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 6:42:15 AM EDT
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Well, for a service that's never actually used swords in their lineage, I suppose they just had to make something up...
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Posted: 10/20/2017 7:38:21 AM EDT
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Air Force = Legend of Zelda fans ?
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Posted: 10/20/2017 7:42:37 AM EDT
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Were golf clubs unavailable ? |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 7:48:24 AM EDT
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My cunt of a stepfather tried to start one of these at the base he retired from, even supplied the sword.
It was the most awkward thing I’ve ever witnessed, I knew they’d never follow through with it. I never saw that sword again. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 7:49:04 AM EDT
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Pretty much this. AF cops are much more like Army MPs than anything, and neither are infantry, For the AF, though, using crew served weapons and defending static installations is as far outside of most people’s conceptual understanding as traditional infantry operations. And the sword... why a sword? The service is air-focused. So much to draw from to create a tradition. Instead, it’s “cartoonish version of hand to hand combat implement that the other services have actually issued and used in their history.” oh no, it was an old air corps tradition from WW1. Which no one has ever seen an actual example of. as for the crew served dildo? lulz. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:00:22 AM EDT
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yeah.. Taxes!! |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:18:10 AM EDT
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Brown nosers infest the Air Force NCO ranks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So why did McPeak get one? |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:31:16 AM EDT
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I'm in the Security Forces and I hate that "We're basically infantry." bullshit. Yes I've been trained in infantry tactics, but I've also been trained to guard nukes and write speeding tickets too. I have to know how everything from how to use our weapon systems, how to employ them properly in a squad sized element, secure flightlines and resources, and to also be able to perform the myriad of tasks within law enforcement. My career field is a mashed up, neither fish nor fowl conglomeration of, "Oh you guys have guns, make sure nothing happens to our stuff and people." My wife was an xray tech, she just had to know her job. I have to know three different modalities of my career field and somehow balance them on a day to day basis. So no, I'm not infantry never have and never will be. And I also hate the fucking waterheads in my career field who spout that damn line. Insofar as to the appearance of these swords, I would say their gaudiness can be attributed to a lack of modern understanding of the sword and the typical Air Force mentality of always out doing the last guy. Even though the Order of the Sword is a high honor, someone should really take a step back and think before they design the sword and not make it look like something out of a weird Japanese cartoon. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The AF as an institution has a serious need for shared hardship and experiences - especially objective accomplishments - among units. Without it, you get these weird fraternity rituals to compensate.
The Air Force does stuff that nobody else can do and does it well. It can be proud of that. It can stop trying to be something other than what it is and never can be. Insofar as to the appearance of these swords, I would say their gaudiness can be attributed to a lack of modern understanding of the sword and the typical Air Force mentality of always out doing the last guy. Even though the Order of the Sword is a high honor, someone should really take a step back and think before they design the sword and not make it look like something out of a weird Japanese cartoon. I also hate the " the AF is a bush of non-combat pussies..." Well yes, you will get that when 95% of our jobs are non-combat... I have been in for 20+ years and never seen this till now. lol. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:47:06 AM EDT
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So, let me see if I have this straight: The only branch of the Military that NEVER used swords in combat feels the need to have the biggest?
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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:48:25 AM EDT
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So, let me see if I have this straight: The only branch of the Military that NEVER used swords in combat feels the need to have the biggest? Fucking 88Ms calling em out now. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:52:24 AM EDT
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Pharaoh had his phallic monolith, USAF has their phallic swords. 
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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:52:40 AM EDT
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All jokes aside these are photos of an Order of the Sword ceremony. This ceremony is done to honor commanders by enlisted personnel who have done an extremely fine job leading their units or commands. They appear in the photos to be unit level awards but the main Air Force award is a big deal. Only 200 people since the 1970's have been awarded this. The unit level swords you see in the photos appear gaudy, but it is still an honor. Most times a commander leaves a unit with trinkets or a signed lithograph, not something like this. This is an honor most commanders will never see in their careers. |
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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:54:28 AM EDT
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Damn, Fucking 88Ms calling em out now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So, let me see if I have this straight: The only branch of the Military that NEVER used swords in combat feels the need to have the biggest? Fucking 88Ms calling em out now. 
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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:54:33 AM EDT
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So, let me see if I have this straight: The only branch of the Military that NEVER used swords in combat feels the need to have the biggest? If you could only see the fraud, waste, and abuse we create with the several million dollars of cnc machines, water jets, etc my unit owns you would crap.
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Posted: 10/20/2017 8:54:45 AM EDT
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All jokes aside these are photos of an Order of the Sword ceremony. This ceremony is done to honor commanders by enlisted personnel who have done an extremely fine job leading their units or commands. They appear in the photos to be unit level awards but the main Air Force award is a big deal. Only 200 people since the 1970's have been awarded this. The unit level swords you see in the photos appear gaudy, but it is still an honor. Most times a commander leaves a unit with trinkets or a signed lithograph, not something like this. This is an honor most commanders will never see in their careers. |
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