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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:46:34 PM EDT
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Lol, "I have hospital administration on the way." Like hospital administration gives a flying fuck about their employees.  |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:47:03 PM EDT
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Stop resisting! 
TC P.S.--Who gets in trouble if the Nurse relents and draws blood? The Nurse. Cop has no exposure. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:47:04 PM EDT
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What a faggot.
And isn't it SOP for anyone with a CDL to be drug/alcohol tested after a crash anyways? |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:48:03 PM EDT
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Which truck is which? Writer of article sucks ass.
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:48:08 PM EDT
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This. Is there a source not from liveleak on this? http://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/local/article_7ed7fffe-763c-11e7-b79f-ff8270105f8d.html Edit-more links |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:48:11 PM EDT
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He makes a lot of money to be that stupid.
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:48:50 PM EDT
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What a faggot. And isn't it SOP for anyone with a CDL to be drug/alcohol tested after a crash anyways? |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:49:00 PM EDT
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The cop has shown he will violate the rights of a dying man. He should be fired. Every lawyer in court facing this cop should play this video.
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:49:06 PM EDT
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Full 20-minute video and a much longer article here.
It sounds like this guy is a Class A Douchebag: Porter said what is just as disturbing are comments caught on Payne's body camera video while he was talking to another officer. Payne can be heard talking about his other job as an ambulance driver, and how Wubbels' arrest might affect that.
"I’ll bring 'em all the transients and take the good patients elsewhere," he is heard saying about the hospital. "Even if he’s joking, this is not funny," Porter said. "I mean, there are so many things wrong with that statement I can’t even begin.” |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:49:20 PM EDT
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Is the nurse correct? |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:49:46 PM EDT
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Wow! Bad, bad, bad that was. The cop deserves whatever he gets.
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:49:46 PM EDT
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I am confused, the person they were trying to draw blood from was the semi driver that was not at fault? |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:49:51 PM EDT
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Cop needs to get fucked for this. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:49:56 PM EDT
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Is the cop a former paramedic. That explains the nurse rage.
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:49:59 PM EDT
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A lot of times I'll give the benefit of thee doubt to the police, but that asshole is a complete piece of shit. Complete piece of shit. Complete piece of shit.
As soon as he was told he was making a mistake by threatening the nurse, he went into full blown piece of shit. The nurse... he couldn't even make a bad arrest the Dr that had to be somewhere? He had to show how tough and might he was to the nurse? Fuck that cop. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:50:46 PM EDT
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Full 20-minute video and a much longer article here. It sounds like this guy is a Class A Douchebag: Quote HistoryQuoted:
Full 20-minute video and a much longer article here. It sounds like this guy is a Class A Douchebag: Porter said what is just as disturbing are comments caught on Payne's body camera video while he was talking to another officer. Payne can be heard talking about his other job as an ambulance driver, and how Wubbels' arrest might affect that.
"I’ll bring 'em all the transients and take the good patients elsewhere," he is heard saying about the hospital. "Even if he’s joking, this is not funny," Porter said. "I mean, there are so many things wrong with that statement I can’t even begin.” |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:50:57 PM EDT
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What a faggot. And isn't it SOP for anyone with a CDL to be drug/alcohol tested after a crash anyways? |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:51:20 PM EDT
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Cop needs to get fucked for this. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:51:38 PM EDT
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What if his Tox comes back positive as well ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The driver of the Semi? He did nothing wrong... |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:51:38 PM EDT
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That all has to do with the crash itself. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:51:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:52:34 PM EDT
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We gave cops benefit of the doubt. We would draw (iodine--no alcohol prep!!) or if not we would Order a tox screen on our own for our own reasons. Make sure to mention it in chart so it's discoverable 
But Florida law at that time at least allowed wide lattitude |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:52:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:53:02 PM EDT
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Full 20-minute video and a much longer article here. It sounds like this guy is a Class A Douchebag: Quote HistoryQuoted:
Full 20-minute video and a much longer article here. It sounds like this guy is a Class A Douchebag: Porter said what is just as disturbing are comments caught on Payne's body camera video while he was talking to another officer. Payne can be heard talking about his other job as an ambulance driver, and how Wubbels' arrest might affect that.
"I’ll bring 'em all the transients and take the good patients elsewhere," he is heard saying about the hospital. "Even if he’s joking, this is not funny," Porter said. "I mean, there are so many things wrong with that statement I can’t even begin.” |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:53:31 PM EDT
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Which truck is which? Writer of article sucks ass. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:54:14 PM EDT
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You asked for a source besides liveleak. Didn't specify which part of the story did ya? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That all has to do with the crash itself. Ill know better for next time. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:55:12 PM EDT
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If my baby got smashed by a drunk, I'd be very unhappy that he wasn't nailed for it because the hospital couldn't get a blood draw because he fucked up sooooo bad that he wasn't even conscious until the alcohol was out of his system. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cop needs to get fucked for this. To use your analogy: this situation would be like the cop demanding a blood draw from YOUR CHILD if your child got hit by a drunk driver. This officer was demanding a blood draw from the victim in the accident. 
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:55:15 PM EDT
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They would have pumped a burn pt full of painkillers, and likely sedatives if they intubated. Blood would trip about every test except a few specific ones.
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:55:22 PM EDT
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Police dont enforce that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What a faggot. And isn't it SOP for anyone with a CDL to be drug/alcohol tested after a crash anyways? On top of being retarded for wanting the victim tested in the first place, the damn sample is probably already sitting somewhere. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:55:32 PM EDT
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You ordered medically unnecessary tests that your patient was billed for? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We gave cops benefit of the doubt. We would draw (iodine--no alcohol prep!!) or if not we would Order a tox screen on our own for our own reasons. Make sure to mention it in chart so it's discoverable
But Florida law at that time at least allowed wide lattitude Screens. I just made sure to make mention of it in the chart so that it wouldn't get missed. Ethanol especially-you can't discharge people Drunk. Got to get a level so you can calculate when they will Be sober Save your outrage. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:56:18 PM EDT
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Wait a minute, so if you're DUI and in a wreck if you just pretend to be unconscious or unresponsive and go to the hospital they cant force a blood alcohol level test? Is this a winning strategy for beating DUI? Any cops wanna chime in? I definitely thought cops could force a blood draw.
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:56:27 PM EDT
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That's not what's going on here. To use your analogy: this situation would be like the cop demanding a blood draw from YOUR CHILD if your child was hit by a drunk driver.
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:57:08 PM EDT
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Big truck is a large car, bet that driver is a member of OOIDA, who just loves going after LE for this very thing.
Shame on that detective for going on that nurse, she's gonna have a big payday off this. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:57:12 PM EDT
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Wait a minute, so if you're DUI and in a wreck if you just pretend to be unconscious or unresponsive and go to the hospital they cant force a blood alcohol level test? Is this a winning strategy for beating DUI? Any cops wanna chime in? I definitely thought cops could force a blood draw. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:58:21 PM EDT
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If you are u conscious--we will do a tox screen anyway. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:58:52 PM EDT
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If my baby got smashed by a drunk, I'd be very unhappy that he wasn't nailed for it because the hospital couldn't get a blood draw because he fucked up sooooo bad that he wasn't even conscious until the alcohol was out of his system.
You watch a different video? That truck driver had no chance of getting out of the way without damage or getting dead himself. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:59:17 PM EDT
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Lol, "I have hospital administration on the way." Like hospital administration gives a flying fuck about their employees. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 9:59:40 PM EDT
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Where was the doctor? |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:00:36 PM EDT
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How come it didn't work here? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you are u conscious--we will do a tox screen anyway. The cops the result. Or The cop didn't think to ask if they had done one. Of course, they would have get an order to see med rec Faster to get their own sample that will have proper chain of custody |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:00:40 PM EDT
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CDL in Texas is consent to hair blood spit and urine. So I'm guessing the DPS could just ask for it. But that's Texas.
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:02:12 PM EDT
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The only thing I could remotely think of would be if there is some procedure to draw automatically for a CDL holder involved in any accident, BUT if this were the case, the nurse would have known about it and the cop would have gotten his sample.... idk how that plays out in an accident investigation. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:02:21 PM EDT
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If my baby got smashed by a drunk, I'd be very unhappy that he wasn't nailed for it because the hospital couldn't get a blood draw because he fucked up sooooo bad that he wasn't even conscious until the alcohol was out of his system. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:02:48 PM EDT
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... Cop is an idiot. Payne — who contends he wanted the blood sample to protect the victim, not punish him — said he was advised by Lt. James Tracy, the watch commander on duty that night, to arrest Wubbels for interfering with a police investigation if she refused to let him get the sample, according to his report. Gray is a truck driver when he is not serving as a reserve police officer, according to the Idaho State Journal. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:03:38 PM EDT
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Wait a minute, so if you're DUI and in a wreck if you just pretend to be unconscious or unresponsive and go to the hospital they cant force a blood alcohol level test? Is this a winning strategy for beating DUI? Any cops wanna chime in? I definitely thought cops could force a blood draw. The guy in the hospital was the victim |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:04:15 PM EDT
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If I were in law enforcement I wouldn't make enemies with the local ER, never know when you may need them to stay alive from a gunshot wound.
This cop is a moron. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:04:35 PM EDT
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Lol, "I have hospital administration on the way." Like hospital administration gives a flying fuck about their employees. My people would have called me (or another) and I would have told them to do nothing for the cop until our legal department said to. We don't really care, but we aren't risking out career to convenience an LEO. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:05:27 PM EDT
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Wow! Bad, bad, bad that was. The cop deserves whatever he gets. 
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:05:32 PM EDT
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Did you even read this thread? The guy in the hospital was the victim |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:05:42 PM EDT
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If I were in law enforcement I wouldn't make enemies with the local ER, never know when you may need them to stay alive from a gunshot wound. This cop is a moron. |
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Posted: 8/31/2017 10:05:46 PM EDT
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I was thinking more along the lines of the sample already being collected, and the results are just some filed paperwork away. On top of being retarded for wanting the victim tested in the first place, the damn sample is probably already sitting somewhere. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What a faggot. And isn't it SOP for anyone with a CDL to be drug/alcohol tested after a crash anyways? On top of being retarded for wanting the victim tested in the first place, the damn sample is probably already sitting somewhere. We just ask for a dyal subpoena and get the results. But we don't enforce CDL procedures so I would never go request one for that reason alone. |
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