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Posted: 8/10/2017 9:30:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2017 9:33:26 PM EDT
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South African HOA covenants enforcement vehicle.
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Posted: 8/10/2017 9:42:12 PM EDT
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No match for TOW-2B, or 120mm APFSDS-T. Bring that weak shit, and we'll make it a burning target reference point.
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Posted: 8/10/2017 9:46:27 PM EDT
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I'm amazed that they have still have any industry left at all.
It'll be gone soon enough. |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 9:47:16 PM EDT
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I bet there's a liveleak video of that being used on some miners.
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Posted: 8/10/2017 9:48:56 PM EDT
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They were pioneers with this shit. They made some cool shit.
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Posted: 8/10/2017 9:55:09 PM EDT
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No match for TOW-2B, or 120mm APFSDS-T. Bring that weak shit, and we'll make it a burning target reference point. |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:03:50 PM EDT
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Looking at it through my M1A2 gun site, yes, I do. I would suggest a Janes World Armor, or the World a Wide Equipment Guide. Both are online. We don't spend a lot of time studying African vehicles, as they aren't the current threat. First glance makes me think infantry support. I'm betting the main gun is 105mm. Not enough to defeat US armor, but very good against trucks/APCs/bunkers. It looks to be capable of max-elevating the gun enough to lob in HE rounds against ground troops. Just my $0.02. Not trying to be a smartass...
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:05:37 PM EDT
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Aren't tracks better than tires?
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:07:22 PM EDT
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Looking at it through my M1A2 gun site, yes, I do. I would suggest a Janes World Armor, or the World a Wide Equipment Guide. Both are online. We don't spend a lot of time studying African vehicles, as they aren't the current threat. First glance makes me think infantry support. I'm betting the main gun is 105mm. Not enough to defeat US armor, but very good against trucks/APCs/bunkers. It looks to be capable of max-elevating the gun enough to lob in HE rounds against ground troops. Just my $0.02. Not trying to be a smartass... |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:08:21 PM EDT
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Each have pros and cons...my preference is for tracks.
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:09:40 PM EDT
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Looking at it through my M1A2 gun site, yes, I do. I would suggest a Janes World Armor, or the World a Wide Equipment Guide. Both are online. We don't spend a lot of time studying African vehicles, as they aren't the current threat. First glance makes me think infantry support. I'm betting the main gun is 105mm. Not enough to defeat US armor, but very good against trucks/APCs/bunkers. It looks to be capable of max-elevating the gun enough to lob in HE rounds against ground troops. Just my $0.02. Not trying to be a smartass... |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:10:39 PM EDT
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Aren't tracks better than tires? |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:11:26 PM EDT
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No flash hider. Obviously a PRE-BAN model.
Not interested. |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:12:54 PM EDT
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Pretty sure World OF Tanks needs a SA line now
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:17:44 PM EDT
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From what I understand, the SA army placed an emphasis on speed, hence the choice of a wheeled vehicle. With that 76mm main gun and if it was fast (like LAVs), I bet this thing could lay down some hate in African conflicts.
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:22:21 PM EDT
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Looks similar to a Stryker. Dunno nuffin else bout dat. Not particularly sexy IMO.
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:26:46 PM EDT
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Um that thing is fugly.
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Posted: 8/10/2017 10:31:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2017 11:02:25 PM EDT
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That thing looks fun as fuck.
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Posted: 8/10/2017 11:14:41 PM EDT
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Looking at it through my M1A2 gun site, yes, I do. I would suggest a Janes World Armor, or the World a Wide Equipment Guide. Both are online. We don't spend a lot of time studying African vehicles, as they aren't the current threat. First glance makes me think infantry support. I'm betting the main gun is 105mm. Not enough to defeat US armor, but very good against trucks/APCs/bunkers. It looks to be capable of max-elevating the gun enough to lob in HE rounds against ground troops. Just my $0.02. Not trying to be a smartass... |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 11:17:52 PM EDT
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You're looking at it through the eyes of a Cav Scout in the TN NG. You should look at it through the eyes of an South African Defense Minister, where it is more than ample for it's intended missions. It's not designed to go head-to-head with modern Soviet armor, like an Abrams or Bradley is. It is designed to go running around the South African brush, primarily as a recon vehicle, but with the capability of taking on old-ass T-54's and T-55's crewed by backward ass African crews. Given the limited threat faced by the South Africans, the Rooikat is plenty sufficient. BTW, were you to peruse the aforementioned Jane's or Worldwide Equipment Guide, you'd know better than to have bet on it having a 105mm main gun, as it is actually a 76mm rifled gun. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looking at it through my M1A2 gun site, yes, I do. I would suggest a Janes World Armor, or the World a Wide Equipment Guide. Both are online. We don't spend a lot of time studying African vehicles, as they aren't the current threat. First glance makes me think infantry support. I'm betting the main gun is 105mm. Not enough to defeat US armor, but very good against trucks/APCs/bunkers. It looks to be capable of max-elevating the gun enough to lob in HE rounds against ground troops. Just my $0.02. Not trying to be a smartass... BTW, were you to peruse the aforementioned Jane's or Worldwide Equipment Guide, you'd know better than to have bet on it having a 105mm main gun, as it is actually a 76mm rifled gun. |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 11:21:56 PM EDT
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Spot on, except there were some made with 105mm guns, only for export, I think. If you think about this as a bridge between IFVs and MBTs, with more gun than an IFV and more speed than an MBT, it makes sense, at least to my dumb ass. |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 11:38:33 PM EDT
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Looking at it through my M1A2 gun site, yes, I do. I would suggest a Janes World Armor, or the World a Wide Equipment Guide. Both are online. We don't spend a lot of time studying African vehicles, as they aren't the current threat. First glance makes me think infantry support. I'm betting the main gun is 105mm. Not enough to defeat US armor, but very good against trucks/APCs/bunkers. It looks to be capable of max-elevating the gun enough to lob in HE rounds against ground troops. Just my $0.02. Not trying to be a smartass... |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 11:43:18 PM EDT
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Aren't tracks better than tires? Tracks are good for cross country, suck for roads, and look like maintenance hogs. The best thing is they have low ground pressure. The worst thing is... everything else about them. |
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Posted: 8/10/2017 11:50:30 PM EDT
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... Not trying to be a smartass... |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 12:06:39 AM EDT
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All it takes is a lucky hit on a fuel can from an RPG to kill the crew of the M1. |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 12:37:57 AM EDT
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He's a motivated boot, good for him, but kinda annoying (the guy you responded to.)  LOL
I imagine while he's breaking tracks all day waiting for the next conventional land war, while all the guys with wheels pass him going down range, wheeled vehicles like the one in question will make sense. |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 12:41:50 AM EDT
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I had to search S. African sexy...
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Posted: 8/11/2017 12:44:42 AM EDT
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Throw some super swampers on that puppy.
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Posted: 8/11/2017 12:46:18 AM EDT
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Yes it is ugly but still cool as fuck
Yes it a piece of shit but it still blows things up
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Posted: 8/11/2017 12:47:18 AM EDT
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I had to search S. African sexy... http://top10for.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hottest-South-African-Models1.jpg |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 12:50:01 AM EDT
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The South Africans have very interesting approaches to problems. There came up with the MRAP and Stryker waaayyyy before we did.
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Posted: 8/11/2017 12:53:47 AM EDT
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Win.
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Posted: 8/11/2017 12:53:58 AM EDT
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Saw the thread title. Clicked hoping for Rhodesian Ridgebacks.
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Posted: 8/11/2017 1:01:14 AM EDT
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No match for TOW-2B, or 120mm APFSDS-T. Bring that weak shit, and we'll make it a burning target reference point.  and one 
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Posted: 8/11/2017 1:04:40 AM EDT
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LOL
I imagine while he's breaking tracks all day waiting for the next conventional land war, while all the guys with wheels pass him going down range, wheeled vehicles like the one in question will make sense. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's a motivated boot, good for him, but kinda annoying (the guy you responded to.) LOL
I imagine while he's breaking tracks all day waiting for the next conventional land war, while all the guys with wheels pass him going down range, wheeled vehicles like the one in question will make sense. Wheels are generally a better option though. |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 1:06:40 AM EDT
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Saw the thread title. Clicked hoping for Rhodesian Ridgebacks.
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Posted: 8/11/2017 1:19:31 AM EDT
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LOL
I imagine while he's breaking tracks all day waiting for the next conventional land war, while all the guys with wheels pass him going down range, wheeled vehicles like the one in question will make sense. The threat was,as has been mentioned,Angolan and Cuban armor and the Eland 90s were just a little too light for the job. The 76 on the Rooikat can punch through a T-55 just fine with the Israeli supplied APFSDS 
Conditions they were meant to fight Eland leading a column with KOed Angolan tank 
A Ratel 90 that just hit a T-54 at very short range in the bush,a completely different war than shooting Iraqi tanks 
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Posted: 8/11/2017 1:41:59 AM EDT
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The South Africans have very interesting approaches to problems. There came up with the MRAP and Stryker waaayyyy before we did. |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 1:49:41 AM EDT
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These were designed for war in SW Africa,with a need to cover huge swaths of territory with few troops so speed was of the essence. Wheeled vehicles also proved to have a perfectly acceptable degree of mobility. The threat was,as has been mentioned,Angolan and Cuban armor and the Eland 90s were just a little too light for the job. The 76 on the Rooikat can punch through a T-55 just fine with the Israeli supplied APFSDS https://cdn-business.discourse.org/uploads/cartridgecollectors/original/1X/2e2a36577972c1b194d7ad7ccd6148d411f671c3.JPG Conditions they were meant to fight Eland leading a column with KOed Angolan tank https://i.redd.it/8wuqkj3isbyy.png A Ratel 90 that just hit a T-54 at very short range in the bush,a completely different war than shooting Iraqi tanks https://i.imgur.com/YoF9QLr_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 1:51:59 AM EDT
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Usually, not always. The Army used to think that and now they have Strykers. |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 1:56:55 AM EDT
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Dont know if this is real
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Posted: 8/11/2017 2:34:30 AM EDT
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But my YAT-YAS... kicked me right in the feels. Wheels are generally a better option though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's a motivated boot, good for him, but kinda annoying (the guy you responded to.) LOL
I imagine while he's breaking tracks all day waiting for the next conventional land war, while all the guys with wheels pass him going down range, wheeled vehicles like the one in question will make sense. Wheels are generally a better option though.
I was the first hummer behind the BC's track too... thank god it was a bullet magnet with all the antenna.  My truck caught way less rounds.
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Posted: 8/11/2017 2:52:09 AM EDT
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That last one had to have a pretty good pucker factor. Being that close to a tank, even one you know you can kill, certainly will get you some good cardio. |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 2:58:24 AM EDT
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The Rooikat beat the Stryker in the trials. The Congressional Black Caucus blocked buying Rooikat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The South Africans have very interesting approaches to problems. There came up with the MRAP and Stryker waaayyyy before we did. |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 3:02:25 AM EDT
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Kind of silly to boycot it considering SA is run by a black gov these days. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The South Africans have very interesting approaches to problems. There came up with the MRAP and Stryker waaayyyy before we did.  ?
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Posted: 8/11/2017 3:06:03 AM EDT
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Are you somehow expecting a position of intelligence from http://aurn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/cong-black-caucus-feature-image.jpg ? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The South Africans have very interesting approaches to problems. There came up with the MRAP and Stryker waaayyyy before we did. http://aurn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/cong-black-caucus-feature-image.jpg ? |
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Posted: 8/11/2017 3:25:45 AM EDT
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Don't have much to add as far as armor, but I feel this is apropos nonetheless
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Posted: 8/11/2017 3:34:48 AM EDT
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<CoC 9>
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Posted: 8/11/2017 6:03:46 AM EDT
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I'd have expected the (I assume black) representitive from the SA gov to remind them that they would be supporting a black gov if they buy the SA vehicle. |
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