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Posted: 7/1/2003 6:13:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/1/2003 6:22:59 PM EDT by dissipator556]
As promised...the pics are trickling in...stories to come later... [img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/050256.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.hunt101.com/img/050259.jpg[/img] Shown with an API projectile, for scale.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 6:21:44 PM EDT
The projectile is a tungsten-carbide steel alloy- .30 caliber, saboted inside a plastic sleeve. Fired from the M2 "Ma Duece," this round will penetrate 4" of armor plate. When loading the rounds, the ammo feels as heavy (or heavier) than 'normal' API or APIT. This is because while the projectile itself is smaller, it is much more dense than lead. These rounds kicked ass against armored APC's, light armored vehicles, targets in thick cover, and targets inside of buildings.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 6:24:55 PM EDT
sounds like fun [}:D]
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 6:25:55 PM EDT
That looks devistating!
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 6:28:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 6:32:32 PM EDT
Can those be used in rifles w/ muzzle brakes like a Barrett?
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 6:37:41 PM EDT
I have always heard that .50 sabots and muzzlebrakes are no-no's but I would rather hear it from someone who has first hand knowledge. Who can we find to test it ? LB
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 6:45:49 PM EDT
I don't know of any snipers that used this rd, but I can't see why it would hurt- the sabo doesn't actually fly off until a few feet after leaving the bbl. I would think that a properly aligned and bored brake would not screw anything up. For testing, I'm not sure- we had to tickle some nuts to even get these babies for combat use. 99.99% sure that you'll never even see them for military training, let alone for public consumption.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 7:00:04 PM EDT
Methinks some rifle manufactuers have opened up the hole in the muzzle break for this round.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 7:02:52 PM EDT
red x's?
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 7:03:09 PM EDT
What kind of velocities are we talking about w/ this round?
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 7:04:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By -Absolut-: red x's?
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YUP!
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 7:17:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/1/2003 7:34:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/1/2003 7:36:07 PM EDT by Jeep29]
SLAP rounds are pretty easy to find. They usually run around $10-$15. Most rifles won't chamber a SLAP round because the sabot gets into the lands. Even the Barrett 82's had to be barreled for them for the military. The AR50 will chamber the round because of its deep throat but Armalite specifically says don't do it in the manual.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 8:39:21 PM EDT
Of all the damn places, they have a good writeup. http://www.vpc.org/studies/duckone.htm
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 8:51:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jeep29: The AR50 will chamber the round because of its deep throat
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He said "deep throat." Yeah, I'm a bored perv... BTW, Dead link given by Chaingun- It's just as well. I wouldn't believe shit that the VPC spews anyway- they couldn't pour shit out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 9:06:41 PM EDT
If shot out of Barretts M82's the sabots explode in the muzzlebrake and shower down on the shooter.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 9:32:48 PM EDT
SALP & RAUFOSS .50 BMG AMMUNITION: [b][size=5]For professional use only![/size=5][/b] Please see [url]http://www.biggerhammer.net[/url] This ammo will mess up non-spec'd rifles.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 9:56:40 PM EDT
Raufoss means justice and liberty.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 4:40:38 AM EDT
Sounds awesome, but I don't think my pockets could support $12-$15 a pop.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 5:09:57 AM EDT
Armor piercing cop-killer rounds????? BAN THEM FOR THE CHILDREN!!!!
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 5:14:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By dissipator556: When loading the rounds, the ammo feels as heavy (or heavier) than 'normal' API or APIT. This is because while the projectile itself is smaller, it is much more dense than lead.
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I'm pretty sure that the projectile is lighter than that of a normal .50 round. That is how you get the higher velocities (~4000fps IIRC) out of the cartridge.
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 5:25:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By dissipator556: The projectile is a tungsten-carbide steel alloy- .30 caliber, saboted inside a plastic sleeve. Fired from the M2 "Ma Duece," this round will penetrate 4" of armor plate. When loading the rounds, the ammo feels as heavy (or heavier) than 'normal' API or APIT. This is because while the projectile itself is smaller, it is much more dense than lead. These rounds kicked ass against armored APC's, light armored vehicles, targets in thick cover, and targets inside of buildings.
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So....when can we find out what it'll do to a ricer's engine block?
Link Posted: 7/2/2003 7:26:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FanoftheBlackRifle:
Originally Posted By dissipator556: The projectile is a tungsten-carbide steel alloy- .30 caliber, saboted inside a plastic sleeve. Fired from the M2 "Ma Duece," this round will penetrate 4" of armor plate. When loading the rounds, the ammo feels as heavy (or heavier) than 'normal' API or APIT. This is because while the projectile itself is smaller, it is much more dense than lead. These rounds kicked ass against armored APC's, light armored vehicles, targets in thick cover, and targets inside of buildings.
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So....when can we find out what it'll do to a ricer's engine block?
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Well, I'll tell you- it's 1000% overkill. Normal 7.62 ball from a 240 will tear ass into a little toyo with a mg mounted in the bed and umpteen iraqi's in the back/on top/in the cab. .50 cal API absolutely destroys the damn thing- goes right through and leaves some wicked holes. .50 cal SLAP was a waste of ammo, too beucoo, too beucoo! (sp)
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