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Posted: 6/29/2003 7:56:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/29/2003 8:39:11 PM EDT by Citabria7GCBC]
So exactly what did Klinton do that was, "GOOD." I'd like to see a list. Nothing more.
Link Posted: 6/29/2003 8:11:24 PM EDT
Surely an IM would suffice, nothing more. He has already expressed an apology. Why not just drop the whole matter or use an IM if it's that important to you.
Link Posted: 6/29/2003 8:26:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By stemcell: Surely an IM would suffice, nothing more. He has already expressed an apology. Why not just drop the whole matter or use an IM if it's that important to you.
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......and, it's NOT Buff[red]i[/red]lo!! [;D]
Link Posted: 6/29/2003 8:40:19 PM EDT
well i still want to know what clinton did that was good. its a simple question. i am not harping on him. i just want a straight clear answer on what the thing or things are that clinton did which were labeled as "good"
Link Posted: 6/29/2003 8:46:44 PM EDT
Citabria, When you get that IM, forward it to me please. I'd like to know, too.
Link Posted: 6/29/2003 8:47:59 PM EDT
I'd bet good ol' Bill pumped Hillary in the @sshole and made her scream. That's about the only good thing I can think of...
Link Posted: 6/29/2003 8:48:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC: well i still want to know what clinton did that was good.
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In just two years he and the Hildebeast caused the Democrats to lose control of the House of Representatives after some 40+ years of monopolistic majority control, and then lost the Senate too.
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 7:26:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rileyindy: Citabria, When you get that IM, forward it to me please. I'd like to know, too.
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will do
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 7:31:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/30/2003 7:33:02 AM EDT by TomJefferson]
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 7:32:20 AM EDT
Hey not so fast... Post it here cause I'm very curious myself. Thanks!
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 2:03:06 PM EDT
BTT Buffalo Soldier.
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 2:17:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By DnPRK: I'd bet good ol' Bill pumped Hillary in the @sshole and made her scream. That's about the only good thing I can think of...
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[LOLabove] [ROFL2] [sex]
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 2:28:43 PM EDT
Increase the nation wide speed limit from 55 mph to 65 mph. FWIW I hate the SOB and I am happy he hung himself. Samuel
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 5:07:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC: well i still want to know what clinton did that was good. its a simple question. i am not harping on him. i just want a straight clear answer on what the thing or things are that clinton did which were labeled as "good"
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Sure sounds to me like you are harping on him.
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 5:15:41 PM EDT
[peep]
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 5:49:52 PM EDT
OK, Citabria: For one, the Administration did a hell of a job with the economy. Greenspan or not, he left it alot better than what Bush has it now. Secondly, as a minority, I am very appreciative of the helping hand that he was willing to offer. I admit the AWB was bullshit, but nobody does a perfect job. Now what?
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 5:57:16 PM EDT
Even though I despise both klinton and I plan to piss on both their graves as soon as they move into them I can name a few things the bastard did that to me qualifies as good. 1. Allowed goverment surplus imports from china, this permitted all sorts of C&R type of collectable guns to enter the US, I am sure he did not mean for this to happen though. 2. Signed NAFTA, what a slap in the face to the unions. I can't believe they still supported him. Just goes to show the unions are not about workers anymore, they are political power machines. 3. For federal workers he signed off on changes to 403b type investment plans making them more like 401k plans. This allowed me to borrow money from myself, paying interest to myself all tax free. (Finance wizards, did I get that 403b plan right or is the Gov employee TSP called something else). 4. I also think klinton has been one of the worse things to happen to the demorats. Look how bad they are doing now, they should have mopped up in the last election. I give klinton credit for a republican house and senate now. Do not think for a moment I like the prick, he has disgraced our nation and made a mockery of our country as a whole. I just wanted to point out a few things he did do I believe were positive for me. BTW, If you want a comparison you could state hitler did us a bit of good too, his demand for rockets, namely the V2, gave us the basis for our early space program not to mention what the ME262 did for early jet research. This is NOT an endorsement of hitler, just another example of how worthless scumbags can sometimes benefit those they try to hurt.
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 6:44:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By buffalo-soldier: [peep]
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I CAN hear you now... very good answer [peep], clever.[lol]
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 8:04:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By buffalo-soldier: OK, Citabria: For one, the Administration did a hell of a job with the economy. Greenspan or not, he left it alot better than what Bush has it now. Secondly, as a minority, I am very appreciative of the helping hand that he was willing to offer. I admit the AWB was bullshit, but nobody does a perfect job. Now what?
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Sooo your willing to take government handouts paid for by hard working american tax payers?
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 8:13:48 PM EDT
Ok, he named two things that were arguably positive but threw in one of the negative things too, which in turn nulls out one of the positive ones. So out of 8 years in office, Slick Willy did one somewhat good thing that you can think of? What happened to the "all the good he did for our country" stuff you were talking in the other thread? I'm not impressed.
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 8:13:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/30/2003 8:17:05 PM EDT by LARRYG]
Originally Posted By buffalo-soldier: OK, Citabria: For one, the Administration did a hell of a job with the economy. Greenspan or not, he left it alot better than what Bush has it now.
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Buffalo shit. The typical Dem answer. The President doesn't have anything to do with the economy. What exactly did he do to make it good. As we have all seen in the last few years, most of the 'good' economy was a house of cards, not real.
Secondly, as a minority, I am very appreciative of the helping hand that he was willing to offer.
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Again, buffalo shit. Again, what exactly did he do. He talked about it, but never really did anything. Bush has appointed far more minorities to important positions than Clitless did.
I admit the AWB was bullshit, but nobody does a perfect job. Now what?
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The AWB was more than enough to negate anything that he might have done good, which he didn't. Now what? How about a legitimate answer with something other than the pat Dem answer that has no substance.
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 9:17:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By buffalo-soldier: OK, Citabria: For one, the Administration did a hell of a job with the economy. Greenspan or not, he left it alot better than what Bush has it now. Secondly, as a minority, I am very appreciative of the helping hand that he was willing to offer. I admit the AWB was bullshit, but nobody does a perfect job. Now what?
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Bill Clinton did as much for YOU "as a minority" as did any other politician. Basically...NOTHING. But he did get into the Black Hall of Fame. [rolleyes] As for the economy, it was pretty good until 9-11 (partial credit to Clinton). However, if Clinton was serving a 3rd term and 9-11 happened the economy would still be in the shitter. Worse than that, out entire country would be beholden to the fucking UN for help with the "terrorist problem" rather than taking steps to fix it ourself.
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 9:35:38 PM EDT
Lets set the record straight on the economy and minorities. 1: The Clinton administration was in it's last year when the economy went to hell. The stock market fell for the last 3 quarters of his last year.....YET it is blaimed on Bush. 2: W has a BLACK FEMALE National Security Advisor AND a Black Secretary of State. Seems funny how you NEVER hear the Dems talking about his minority appointments. Currently he is trying his damndest to appoint a Hispanic to the U.S. Supreme Court and is being fought tooth and nail by the Dems over it. I think his dad had the same problem appointing a BLACK man to the court too (Clarence Thomas). I am definately not a racist and I am a conservative Republican with major Libertarian leanings (2nd amendment) and I am in total agreement with all those appointments. The Liberals ie: Al Sharpton ect... say that those minority appointies are Uncle Toms. I totally disagree. When will the Liberal dems stop the real Hate Speech and get on board. This isn't 1960. The socialist liberal leftist political agenda is a long dead horse. Let it rest in peace or pieces if need be. Buffalo Soldier in my opinion is wrong about some things but is still an american and I hope we keep this debate civil and don't start name calling and such.
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 10:10:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/30/2003 10:10:59 PM EDT by The_Macallan]
When did the economy (market especially) start going to shit? When Microsoft became the Clinton Administration's number one target. Clinton turned the AG pitbulls loose on Microsoft simply because Bill Gates wouldn't fork over a few million to the Clinton/Democrat moneymachine. Clinton's Justice Department was let loose on Microsoft oh-so-coincidentally right after Slick Willie spent an afternoon playing golf with Gates back in '98 where Clinton CERTAINLY pressed Gates to cough up a few million or face the consequences. For Clinton/Clinton/Gore, EVERYTHING was about money and power. Every interview, conference, speech, handshake, morning coffee, Buddhist Temple visit, Lincoln bedroom guest list, golf trip, Asian consultant meeting, Loral/Lippo/Hollywood contact - EVERYTHING was about getting more money and power. Bill Clinton personlly HATED Bill Gates and tried to destroy him and Microsoft. THAT sent the markets tumbling harder than they should have. Clinton did nothing to oversee the FRAUDLENT accounting practices that were running rampant during his term - just as long as the bigwigs were sending him and his party the big checks his friends were free to cook the books anyway they wanted. And if they didn't keep sending the Dems the checks - they'd only have to look at Microsoft to see what would happen to them. Clinton did nothing to help the economy - and that's why it flourished. But he DID try to fuck up the biggest tech company out there and that caused the markets to crash much harder than they would have anyway. "Irrational exhuberance" was a reality, but the HUGE crash that occured wasn't a necessity. It was largely due to Bill Clinton's obsession with destroying Bill Gates and Microsoft.
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 10:27:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/30/2003 10:29:27 PM EDT by mmx1]
Originally Posted By TomJefferson: He moved to Harlem. Huh, that's about it.
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Hey, hey, hey! I LIVE in harlem! Not so good for me! Now about the economy, can anybody name one specific thing Clinton did for the economy? One act? One bill? Oh, right, he passed the largest tax cut in history. I'll bet that helped a lot. All Clinton did was ride the dot-com bubble, and sneak out(with full pockets) while it burst around him.
Link Posted: 6/30/2003 10:34:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/30/2003 10:48:34 PM EDT by Lazyshooter]
Originally Posted By buffalo-soldier: OK, Citabria: For one, the Administration did a hell of a job with the economy. Greenspan or not, he left it alot better than what Bush has it now. Secondly, as a minority, I am very appreciative of the helping hand that he was willing to offer. I admit the AWB was bullshit, but nobody does a perfect job. Now what?
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During the Clinton administration, unprecedented numbers of american manufacturing jobs moved overseas. Most went to communist China and Mexico. We will never get those jobs back. Lowering interest rates, which began, if I remember, a few months [i]before[/i] Clinton took over as President, drove the economy during the late 1990's. After a recession, the lowering of interest rates got more investment going in the economy. Of course, they continue to go down to this day. Housing, which is connected to almost all parts of the economy and auto manufacturing flourished with low interest rates. I don't like him, and don't think he's made many wise decisions, but maybe you should thank Greenspan and the Federal Reserve for recent positive economic things, [i]instead[/i] of Bill Clinton. Computers finally became useful at home with the internet, where as before all they were good for were video games, small businesses and word processing. All kinds of businesses were created in relation to computers and the internet during this time. A lot of technology matured. TV sets, VCRs, stereo equipment, etc. all came down in price, because of this and the fact that they were made in foreign countries. More people invested in the stock market, because they couldn't make money on their money and had new companies (computer related) to invest in. Of course, many toward the end of his presidency, lost a lot of money, after the stock market began to go down. Bill Clinton had absolutely nothing to do with any economic successes, if you consider the late '90's a success. The president is like the quarterback. He gets praise when things go good and gets criticized when they don't. And he had little to do with creating the good or bad, unless he really made a crazy decision or took his eye off the economy, which he apparently did near the end.
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 7:04:39 PM EDT
BTT [}:D]
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 10:41:59 PM EDT
Buffalo soldier you were doing just great with your head pulled in,till you answered any replies! They called you out remember,wouldn't accept your apology! Fug em! Tell them you have apologized once and that is all that you can see fit to do at this time! Then tell all who would carry this attack further to bite your ass! They will understand as this is the diplomatic way of the USA! I didn't accept your apology as none was needed for me,but I guess Strom must have a lot of relatives still alive and kicking! Instead of a lot of narrative just say bite me! your friend Bob (bite me) [:D]
Link Posted: 7/1/2003 11:26:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bobbyjack: Buffalo soldier you were doing just great with your head pulled in,till you answered any replies! They called you out remember,wouldn't accept your apology! Fug em! Tell them you have apologized once and that is all that you can see fit to do at this time! Then tell all who would carry this attack further to bite your ass! They will understand as this is the diplomatic way of the USA! I didn't accept your apology as none was needed for me,but I guess Strom must have a lot of relatives still alive and kicking!Instead of a lot of narrative just say bite me!your friend Bob (bite me) [:D]
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[LOL] Yeah, fuck 'em and feed 'em fish!
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