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Posted: 6/28/2003 7:26:22 PM EDT
How come someone else makes the decision for it? Doesn't a fetus have a right to control IT'S OWN BODY? CRC
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:42:25 PM EDT
And the fetus is going to make the choice how? Telepathically? Youv'e got to be joking, right?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:43:50 PM EDT
IBTL...ppl are making light of all the abortion and gay topics that have escalated on here lately..lol.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:46:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JH225: And the fetus is going to make the choice how? Telepathically? Youv'e got to be joking, right?
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Err, how about a 10 day old baby? How can it voice its opinion? What about a baby 10 days from being born? 10 weeks?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:48:47 PM EDT
They shouldnt be able to choose until theyre 18. Seriously guys, if you outlaw abortion your only going to sell more coat hangers and bus tickets to Mexico.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:50:28 PM EDT
Are you gonna be done stirin' the pot anytime soon?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:51:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheFNG: They shouldnt be able to choose until theyre 18. Seriously guys, if you outlaw abortion your only going to sell more coat hangers and bus tickets to Mexico.
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And more dead Democratic voters. BTW: Vicente Fox is VERY pro-life from what I undestand. CRC
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:52:43 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CRC:
Originally Posted By TheFNG: They shouldnt be able to choose until theyre 18. Seriously guys, if you outlaw abortion your only going to sell more coat hangers and bus tickets to Mexico.
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And more dead Democratic voters. BTW: Vicente Fox is VERY pro-life from what I undestand. CRC
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Like what that man thinks makes a damn difference as to what goes on in his country.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:56:00 PM EDT
Freedom of choice is surrendered when one commits to ngaging in procreative behavior. Yes, you have a choice until that point. There is a reason we have this drive for procreation. Preservation of the species. If the outcome of such behavior is unacceptable, there are way to prevent the outcome instead of aborting the innocent life.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:56:55 PM EDT
Why is so much anger and hatred directed at those that choose to speak for those that don't have a voice?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 8:01:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By thedave1164: Why is so much anger and hatred directed at those that choose to speak for those that don't have a voice?
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Because they don't want to be reminded they support MURDER. CRC
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 8:03:55 PM EDT
Under the age of 18 [:D]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 8:06:36 PM EDT
Nice sig line, Chaingun. Just noticed it.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 8:09:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2003 8:13:18 PM EDT by The_Macallan]
Originally Posted By TheFNG: They shouldnt be able to choose until theyre 18.
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So no abortions for anyone under 18??? But that would cut out a MAJOR source of revenue for Planned [s]Parenthood[/s] Infanticide. [nono]
Originally Posted By TheFNG: Seriously guys, if you outlaw abortion your only going to sell more coat hangers and bus tickets to Mexico.
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Is that what our laws should be based on? Whether or not people will try to get around it or create a blackmarket? Hmmmm.... So doing what's right is no longer a basis for law? Then we oughta legalize assault, rape, burglary and DUI because legal or not - some people are just gonna do it anyway [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 8:18:33 PM EDT
I think it's a safe assumption that any baby, given the choice, would choose to survive. They sure fight to do so when it is necessary. Other than that I'd say that Wobblin-Gobblin, Macallan and CRC have pretty much covered the bases.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 8:28:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CRC: How come someone else makes the decision for it? Doesn't a fetus have a right to control IT'S OWN BODY? CRC
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An excellent question.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 8:31:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2003 8:34:38 PM EDT by JH225]
Originally Posted By Keith_J: Freedom of choice is surrendered when one commits to ngaging in procreative behavior. Yes, you have a choice until that point. There is a reason we have this drive for procreation. Preservation of the species. If the outcome of such behavior is unacceptable, there are way to prevent the outcome instead of aborting the innocent life.
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And you would say the same thing if a female relative of yours was raped and became pregnant? I think not. Sure, lets make abortion illegal and watch and see how many young girls wind up dying due to botched home or back street Dr. fuck up's. Oh, and BTW, Don't even attempt to say "Well, if a girl was raped, that's different". There is only one side..... for or against. There is no in-between.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 9:34:57 PM EDT
Ever notice how many pro-abortion folks say they'd never have their child aborted but don't wanna stop others from doing so? In other words they know it's wrong, but don't want to stop it from happening.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 9:43:59 PM EDT
JH225 That rape line is the oldest shit in the book! Do you know how many girls get knocked up through rape? Not very fucking many, and if they do they can still put the baby up for adoption. Thats a classic pinko commie change the issue bullshit tactic. Pathetic.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 9:49:02 PM EDT
No you guys missed that one, I dont think the fetus should be allowed to choose to abort itself until it turns the legal age of 18. On a side note. How many dead babies does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 9:51:13 PM EDT
3??
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 9:55:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 9:55:17 PM EDT
You pro-life/Pro-gun retards dont even realize your using the same arguments against abortion that the gun grabbers use against guns. DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN! The LAW will save lives! Not morality! If you honestly think that making abortion illeagle is going to stop people from having abortions, then only outlaws will have abortions! Too many people in this world, so lets cut back a bit ok? FREE THE MORNING AFTER PILL!!
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:15:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:17:36 PM EDT
Some fucking dumb topics comming up tonight. Is the full moon out?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:21:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheFNG: You pro-life/Pro-gun retards dont even realize your using the same arguments against abortion that the gun grabbers use against guns. DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN! The LAW will save lives! Not morality!
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Well you can't really argue against [red]killing children[/red] other than to say that "we shouldn't kill children". The sole purpose of abortion is to [u]kill unborn children[/u]. That's why I'm "pro-life". The sole purpose of the RKBA is NOT to kill children but to defend myself from criminals, rioters and tyranny. That's why I'm "pro-gun". That the antis MISTAKENLY use the argument of "saving children's lives" to push more gun-control doesn't diminish the fact that opposing abortion really IS all about saving unborn babies lives. Just because an anti uses that argument wrongly doesn't mean I shouldn't use that argument properly.
Originally Posted By TheFNG: If you honestly think that making abortion illeagle is going to stop people from having abortions, then only outlaws will have abortions!
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If you honestly think making rape illegal is going to stop people from raping, then only outlaws will rape! Rape, DUI, larceny, child abuse, assault, murder shoplifting... etc. are all illegal yet they still occur hundreds of thousands of times a year anyway. Using your logic that people will get abortions legal or not, shouldn't all these be legal too?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:24:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2003 10:25:25 PM EDT by TheFNG]
Do we really need more children in this world? Do you guys view birth control as killing children also?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:25:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JH225:
Originally Posted By Keith_J: Sure, lets make abortion illegal and watch and see how many young girls wind up dying due to botched home or back street Dr. fuck up's.
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Can you say 'Irony'? Look it up.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:26:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By parshooter:
Originally Posted By JH225:
Originally Posted By Keith_J: Sure, lets make abortion illegal and watch and see how many young girls wind up dying due to botched home or back street Dr. fuck up's.
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Can you say 'Irony'? Look it up.
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So its ok for the mothers to die?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:31:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheFNG: Do we really need more children in this world? Do you guys view birth control as killing children also?
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Well... Since we're so starved for space... Herreee'is Your Bullet. I'll Loan ya' the gun. To the second part of the quote,... No.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:33:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TheFNG:
Originally Posted By parshooter:
Originally Posted By JH225:
Originally Posted By Keith_J: Sure, lets make abortion illegal and watch and see how many young girls wind up dying due to botched home or back street Dr. fuck up's.
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Can you say 'Irony'? Look it up.
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So its ok for the mothers to die?
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So its ok for the babies to die?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:37:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By parshooter: So its ok for the mothers to die?
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So its ok for the babies to die?
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Parshooter, you've been haaaaaad.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:40:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HSimpson: Ever notice how many pro-abortion folks say they'd never have their child aborted but don't wanna stop others from doing so? In other words they know it's wrong, but don't want to stop it from happening.
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Actually, that's the first time I heard that one.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:47:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By parshooter: So its ok for the mothers to die?
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So its ok for the babies to die?
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Parshooter, you've been haaaaaad.
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Unfortunately, Don't be so sure about that. Still doesn't make it right.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:50:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By parshooter:
Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Originally Posted By parshooter: So its ok for the mothers to die?
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So its ok for the babies to die?
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Parshooter, you've been haaaaaad.
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Unfortunately, Don't be so sure about that. Still doesn't make it right.
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I'm barely awake and can see it. You've been toasted lightly brown on this one.
Link Posted: 6/29/2003 5:52:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/29/2003 5:55:08 AM EDT by JH225]
Originally Posted By Crappybob: JH225 That rape line is the oldest shit in the book! Do you know how many girls get knocked up through rape? Not very fucking many, and if they do they can still put the baby up for adoption. Thats a classic pinko commie change the issue bullshit tactic. Pathetic.
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See, there goes another pro-lifer with their tunnel vision again [:(] I don't give a shit if just 1 single female that gets raped becomes pregnant. It is HER choice to abort the piece of scum's baby that she is now carrying, PERIOD!! You say that she can give it up for adaption. Care to tell us why she would want to carry the scum rapist's child for one second longer than she had to? Just like most pro-life rants, yours is hipocritical at best. Kinda like the Catholic church has done for many years by standing behind their countless baby rapists/,molesters. Or maybe we should also let the POS welfare recipients to have 10 or so kids each because they have no way to abort their assinine non caring, so called "man's" love child? Do you really think that a welfare POS girl is going to close her legs? Or maybe you think that the welfare POS guy is going to really remember or care to wrap his package? The only reason most of these welfare POS guy's use a condom at all is because they don't want to get AIDS when they are screwing the crackhead welfare girl, not because the give a shit if the girl gets pregnant. Or are you going to tell me that this doesn't happen either? Well guess what, it does, and I see it EVERY single day I go to work. (edited for spelling only)
Link Posted: 6/29/2003 11:34:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By JH225: Or maybe we should also let the POS welfare recipients to have 10 or so kids each because they have no way to abort their assinine non caring, so called "man's" love child? Do you really think that a welfare POS girl is going to close her legs? Or maybe you think that the welfare POS guy is going to really remember or care to wrap his package? The only reason most of these welfare POS guy's use a condom at all is because they don't want to get AIDS when they are screwing the crackhead welfare girl, not because the give a shit if the girl gets pregnant. Or are you going to tell me that this doesn't happen either? Well guess what, it does, and I see it EVERY single day I go to work. (edited for spelling only)
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Thats what STERILIZATION is for........welfare people (not short termers but long termers with children should be sterilized or at least put on long term Birth Control) can't figure out how anyone can defend vaccuuming or pulling an unborn infant HUMAN thru its supposed mother's womb bit by bloody painful bit. BTW, My son Hunter Is going to be born in the next 2 weeks most likely....so this hits pretty close to home for me.
Link Posted: 6/29/2003 12:25:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GreenTalon: BTW, My son Hunter Is going to be born in the next 2 weeks most likely....so this hits pretty close to home for me.
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Congratulations. It'll change ya.
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