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Posted: 6/27/2003 6:43:47 PM EDT
http://www.bradycampaign.com/press/release.asp?Record=491 CRC
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 6:45:54 PM EDT
And now our enemies start slitting each others throats...[:)]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 5:37:12 AM EDT
And he doesn't even sound pro-gun.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 5:39:10 AM EDT
The Brady center nowadys needs to make waves aganst anyone they can just to stay afloat. They have nowhere near the force of nearly a decade ago.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 5:51:32 AM EDT
Are you guys continuing to send cartons to Sarah? [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 5:56:45 AM EDT
Cartons of what?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:05:19 AM EDT
Dean was NEVER pro-gun up here BUT he was smart enough not to bring the issue up. His national position on guns remains to be seen...I can promise you he will flip flop on it Klinton-style until the polls line up right. He's a lying, smirking, little weasle...arrogant to the bone. You've been warned[;)]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:06:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U: Cartons of what?
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My guess is the man's talkin' about cigarettes. I saw an interview with Howard Dean last week. My gut tells me he is on our side. I realize some of the Vermont posters here would disagree - he just really seemed to know his shit - in a Dr, not a politician sort of way.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:08:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Adam_White: My guess is the man's talkin' about cigarettes.
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I didnt ge the memo, what does sending cartons of ciggs mean? Smoking kills more children than guns?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:17:43 AM EDT
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:
Originally Posted By Adam_White: My guess is the man's talkin' about cigarettes.
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I didnt ge the memo, what does sending cartons of ciggs mean? Smoking kills more children than guns?
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The cunt has lung cancer from what I've heard. She's just not dying fast enuff.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:21:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Adam_White:
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U: Cartons of what?
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My guess is the man's talkin' about cigarettes. I saw an interview with Howard Dean last week. My gut tells me he is on our side. I realize some of the Vermont posters here would disagree - he just really seemed to know his shit - in a Dr, not a politician sort of way.
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Howard The Coward WILL apprear to know his shit...he's has good handlers right now..someone is helping to groom him for the camera, trust me. This fool gave speeches up here for 8 long years...came across as a babbling idiot except to the fools prescribing to his liberal dribble. His act has cleaned up considerably in the last month or two which leads me to believe there has been a lot of behind the scenes work going on. Howie might appear pro-gun but he is no friend to us or sportsmen in general. He will bow to the will of the left at the drop of a dime, Guys. Please understand that I am not "arguing" with any of you...just giving you the take of someone that has lived under his reign.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:25:17 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:30:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2003 6:30:50 AM EDT by greenmountainpatriot]
He's done here...two terms...we ushered in a Republican w/ a brain as soon as Howard the Coward walked. Despite the police reporting around 2,000 people showing up, the Dean site claims: "5,000 people gathered in downtown Burlington to hear Howard Dean announce his candidacy" [img]http://www.deanforamerica.com/images/blog/23/crowdjb.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:30:47 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:36:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2003 6:37:02 AM EDT by greenmountainpatriot]
Another stance from Howard the Coward: "I’m proud to say that as Governor of Vermont, I signed legislation to grant gay and lesbian couples the right to enter into civil unions. This law, the first of its kind in the United States, guarantees lesbian and gay couples the same basic legal rights that married couples enjoy the right to inherit property, obtain child custody, visit a partner in the hospital and control a partner’s affairs upon death." "As President I will fight for the civil rights for all Americans and that includes lesbian and gay Americans." Let me tell you...not many of leave the state w/ Vermont license plates anymore...at least not w/o having "TAKE VERMONT BACK" bump stickers next to them!
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 6:43:52 AM EDT
Call me a nut, but your below example really doesn't bother me. ALl that bothers me is the gun issue. If he is consistent witht he libertarian philosophy the below example espouses, I will not be upset. If he supports the right of gays, and other "PC minorities" over those of gunowners, he's just another Democrat that needs to retire. Adam
Originally Posted By greenmountainpatriot: Another stance from Howard the Coward: "I’m proud to say that as Governor of Vermont, I signed legislation to grant gay and lesbian couples the right to enter into civil unions. This law, the first of its kind in the United States, guarantees lesbian and gay couples the same basic legal rights that married couples enjoy the right to inherit property, obtain child custody, visit a partner in the hospital and control a partner’s affairs upon death." "As President I will fight for the civil rights for all Americans and that includes lesbian and gay Americans." Let me tell you...not many of leave the state w/ Vermont license plates anymore...at least not w/o having "TAKE VERMONT BACK" bump stickers next to them!
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Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:16:56 AM EDT
I would definately class him as the latter...gun owners don't mean a thing to him. Well, maybe if you could dig up a transexual chinese/mexican that liked ARs it would be a different story.[:D] Definately pay attention over the next few weeks...I predict you are going to see some changes in Howard the Coward. His true socialist, liberal, leftist colors will be shining thru.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:19:08 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:41:36 AM EDT
Originally Posted By greenmountainpatriot: maybe if you could dig up a transexual chinese/mexican that liked ARs
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This is AR15.com, you have come to the right place my friend.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 7:43:45 AM EDT
Found him! [img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/p34ce2cb564719e3a068ef94725cc6593/fbda5fe9.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 8:42:47 AM EDT
BRAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 9:18:08 AM EDT
Is that his finger he is poinitng at you? Is that a "Howard Dean" supporter he is wearing?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 10:17:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RiffRandall:
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:
Originally Posted By Adam_White: My guess is the man's talkin' about cigarettes.
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The cunt has lung cancer from what I've heard. She's just not dying fast enuff.
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The day that they put her in the dirt, I'll be drinking lots and lots of iced tea! (well, I'll be RENTING it anyway [;)])
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 11:46:03 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Adam_White: I saw an interview with Howard Dean last week. My gut tells me he is on our side. I realize some of the Vermont posters here would disagree - he just really seemed to know his shit - in a Dr, not a politician sort of way.
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[b]DUDE. "OUR SIDE". Are you a LIBERAL?[/b]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 11:56:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RiffRandall:
Originally Posted By M4_Aiming_at_U:
Originally Posted By Adam_White: My guess is the man's talkin' about cigarettes.
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I didnt ge the memo, what does sending cartons of ciggs mean? Smoking kills more children than guns?
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The cunt has lung cancer from what I've heard. She's just not dying fast enuff.
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[LOL]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 12:22:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By U-R-Cheap:
Originally Posted By Adam_White: I saw an interview with Howard Dean last week. My gut tells me he is on our side. I realize some of the Vermont posters here would disagree - he just really seemed to know his shit - in a Dr, not a politician sort of way.
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[b]DUDE. "OUR SIDE". Are you a LIBERAL?[/b]
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My impression, also... Elect the governor of a North-east state President?? [rolleyes] To see that kind of ignorance, just reinforces my conclusion that we are in our Death throes as a Nation......[V]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 12:25:36 PM EDT
Originally Posted By liberty86: Elect the governor of a North-east state President?? [rolleyes]
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Like the Gov. Of ARKANSAS.. A southern state was good too?
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 12:27:21 PM EDT
What exactly has Dean done to harm any firearm rights? Has he ever said or started any legislation that would harm firearm rights? Please give links
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 12:40:10 PM EDT
Do some research on the CHAMPION LAND DEAL...I'll look to see what I can find as well. It was not so much "gun rights" at stake but sportsman's rights in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont. Dean and his backdoor buddies were trying to get "core areas" of the land blocked off to the extent that a horse couldn't even take a crap in the "bio-preservation zone". Dean never did anything against us gun owners BUT we were also smart enough never to trust him. Anyone selling out to the gay community, Conservation Law Foundation and the NEA is certainly not some staunch supporter of YOUR GUN RIGHTS! Vermont politicians learned a lesson from Peter "The Prick" Smith (R) who went to congress and voted for anti-gun laws...old Petey hasn't be heard from in politics since ;) On a side note, Bernie Sanders has never done much against us gun owners in the State but it doesn't make him any less of a Communist.
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 12:41:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/28/2003 12:42:33 PM EDT by Cincinnatus]
Here's what he said on Meet the Press: Russert: Well, you’re for the Brady Bill... Dean: Yep. Russert: And you’re for a ban on assault weapons, so you are for gun control. Dean: Look, what I’ve said is we should keep the federal laws and support them, and we should apply background checks, InstaCheck, to gun shows, right? Russert: But why take the issue off the table? Debate it. Dean: Because—well, you can debate it all you want. Russert: Because it may hurt Democrats politically? Dean: No. Different states are different. My state, we have no gun control. We also have one of the lowest homicide rates in the country. We’re a rural state with a lot of hunters in it. Right? In New York and New Jersey and California, they ought to have as much gun control as they want. My position is this is a state issue. Keep the federal laws. Enforce them vigorously. And then let every state decide what they want. Because when you say gun control in my state, people are going to think you’re taking the squirrel rifle their parents gave them away. When you say gun control in New Jersey and California and New York, they say “Great. Let’s get the machine guns and the handguns off the streets.” They’re both right. So why can’t each state decide for themselves over and above the federal law what they want or don’t want? What the result will be, you won’t get more gun control than what you’ve already got in Wyoming or Montana and Vermont, and you’ll get a lot more in California and New Jersey. Fine.
"In New York and New Jersey and California, they ought to have as much gun control as they want... ...When you say gun control in New Jersey and California and New York, they say “Great. Let’s get the machine guns and the handguns off the streets.” They’re both right. So why can’t each state decide for themselves[red] over and above the federal law what they want or don’t want?[/red] "
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Sorry Howard, there's that pesky Constitution with its 2nd Ammendment, that's why.
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